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The first line claims that Kotobagari refers to a reluctance to use non-PC, and other non euphamistic words, but I think kotobagari means a "hunt" for or, "pouncing upon non PC (etc) words", and is therefore the cause of the reluctance. E.g. The broadcast was reluctant to refer to the language spoken
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I think this article deserves to remain separate given that not all of the words given as examples are considered offensive to *particular groups* - "slaughterhouse?" - it also seems to apply to words which are merely considered impolite or unseemly. Seems to me that this concept is actually broader,
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Which would be quite in line with European names for each other's countries and languages anyway. Glaring examples such as the word "mute" (suggesting an inability to speak a familiar language) still meaning German (language, person, or origin; but not country) in Russian come to mind, but there's oh
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Many of the examples seem to have no relation to 'PC', aggrandising job titles is not particularly a 'PC' phenomenon, avoiding 'disability pejoratives' and metaphors might be if avoiding offence is the reason, but no reason is given here. The inability for two states to agree on a name is a naming
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who says that there is no reason to have this article. If it offers new insight into cultures that people who cant read Japanese might be able to come across than it's great. I think it would be great to translate the Russian page too. Knowledge (XXG) is the sum of all human knowledge, after all.
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Regarding the section on the use of "Hangul" to refer to spoken Korean: I don't think this qualifies as a neologism, which I understand to mean the creation of an entirely new word. In this case, an existing word has taken on an additional meaning. Surely there's a linguist or grammarian or
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There's also no reliable source basis for Kotabagari at all. The entire idea of taking a Japanese word, transliterating it to English, and talking about it with a Japanese context seems to go against the idea of an English Knowledge (XXG). It doesn't seem different from taking
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so many. Or the even more popular reverse examples, like the turkey (American bird) being named after Turkey (country) to simply mean "Weird, bizarre, alien-looking", or America misnaming the Musk Duck as the Muscovy ("of Moscow Region") Duck, despite its American origins.
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I think it's because it's Hangul-go. Go is a suffix attached to (usually) a country name to provide the name of the language eg furansu (France) furansugo (French). So it's putting together "Hangul" and "go" to make Hangul-go. I think this counts as a
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I find no cite that states that Kotobagari is Japanese for "political correctness" or the same concept as "political correctness." Is there one? If there is, then merger makes sense, otherwise delete this article as
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think an article that says the same thing should just be translated for the sake of it. In this case, this article offers a different perspective, and thats why I think it
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in English. You can make the item about a Kotobagari to Political_correctness. Please refer to japan of Pofanity as the example -- it will become helpful.
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I still don't understand if there is any reliable source basis for the claim the terms are related. Give an example, please.--
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That's fine, Snow steed, but you could at least move the article to the right location, instead of just deleting it. -
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This seems to be just an article about political correctness in Japan, translated into English. But that's what
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be merged to the politically correct article since these topics are related but different. There you have it.
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Keep it separate. It is culture-specific and not limited to the Western idea of political correctness.
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This is an English wikipedia. And Kotobagari is not English. Kotobagari is a category of
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I just removed the merge notice since Kotobagari has its own separate article in the
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on the peninsula for fear that their words would be pounced upon (言葉狩り kotobagari).
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In addition, a Google search reveals just one result, with WP and copies excluded.
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Look at the definitions. The latter is more broad, but they mean the same thing.
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not narrower, than that of (linguistic) political correctness.
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etymologist out there who knows the proper term for this?
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