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the precise description of the articulatory facts may be). This actually has consequences for
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I'm not sure I understand your confusion. Some of the native languages of the western state of
California make the distinction. It's not claiming that all of them do, or that any of them were in use throughout the entire region. Cites and more specificity about which languages from which families
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The actual quote: "By this consideration the French coronals are alveolar, and differ from
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