211:(also written Guibert etc). However, this Ansfried could also have been the younger nephew. There is also debate about whether this Ansfried was the son of Lambert or of Wicbert. In any case, all of these people are likely to be related to each other, and they presumably share descent from Wicbert's grandparents Gisla and Rothing.
164:
of the western king, there are doubts about whether it could be
Ansfried, whose homeland of Lotharingia was by this time back under control of the eastern kingdom ("Germany"). However, Jongbloed (2009 p. 32) argues that during this period the western kingdom was a defeated "quasi protectorate",
202:
in the 950s, during the reign of Bishop
Balderic I in Liège. Historians who believe this argue that the younger Ansfried would have been too young. Van Winter on the other hand has argued that this record is incorrectly dated, and that these events in Gembloux must have been in the 980s after young
144:
and captured. Widukind wrote that
Ansfried was partly convinced by an offer of alliance and marriage with the only daughter of Immo. Jongbloed has argued that this marriage went ahead. However, Karsten has argued that Widukind clearly wanted to give the impression that the offer was made in bad
218:
returned from Italy in early 965, some historians such as Aarts think that the
Ansfrid who appears in a high position in a list from Liège must still be the elder Ansfried, and not his nephew who was still young, and who may indeed still have been in Italy.
267:
2. Jongbloed (2009), proposed that
Ansfried the elder married a daughter of Count Immo, based mainly on the story of Widukind mentioned above. He furthermore proposed that this Ansfried was, like his nephew with the same name, a founder of the
203:
Ansfried returned from Italy. There is therefore a similar debate about whether the elder
Ansfried is also the son named Ansfried who, in a transaction described by Sigebert, served as a witness to a transaction between a noble named
260:, and that an otherwise unattested sister of this Ehrenfried married the above-mentioned Lambert, the so-called Count of Louvain. The elder Ansfried, in this explanation, would actually be Bishop Ansfried's maternal uncle, normally
129:, involving the church of Saint Servatius in Maastricht. Jongbloed suggested this was Ansfried the elder partly because another junior witness is named Arnold, and the names Arnold and Ansfried appear in later records together.
234:. There is also one more charter which connects an Ansfried to the wife of his late Duke Gilbert, in 968, when he was involved in a charter concerning her allodial rights in the area of Meerssen in the Maasland.
132:
In 939 a count named
Ansfried is described by Widukind of Corvey as one of the leaders of the Lotharingian people. This Ansfried and another Lotharingian leader named Arnold held the fortification of
160:("France"). Louis had married Gerberga, also present, the former wife of his ally Duke Gilbert of Lotharingia who had died at Andernach. Because this count was apparently a
145:
faith. After
Ansfried and Arnold were captured, Widukind reports that Immo advised that Ansfried, being as "hard as iron", would need the harshest torments to question him.
83:, the royal family at the time. It was Thietmar who described Ansfried the elder, the uncle, as a count of 15 counties, and says it was he who sent his nephew to
370:
Jongbloed 2009 argued that the witness was the younger
Ansfried, but that he was a son of Wicbert. This has not been widely accepted. See Aarts and Karsten.
474:
496:
Jongbloed, Hein H., (2006), "Immed “von Kleve” (um 950) – Das erste
Klevische Grafenhaus (ca. 885-ca. 1015) als Vorstufe des geldrischen Fürstentums",
665:
464:
602:
589:
410:
505:
Jongbloed, Hein H., (2009) "Listige Immo en Herswind. Een politieke wildebras in het Maasdal (938-960) en zijn in Thorn rustende dochter",
469:
Aarts, Bas (2016) "Het 'eeuwige Strijen'. Speurtocht naar de gravin, haar schenking en haar familie" in Van den Eynde & Toorians (eds)
204:
122:
Some of the records which are used to describe Anfried's life might have been describing someone else named Ansfried, such as his nephew.
61:
during his lifetime. He is sometimes referred to as "the elder" in order to distinguish him from his nephew, and apparent heir, Bishop
187:
From this time on, there is disagreement about whether there are any more sightings of the elder Ansfried in contemporary records.
555:
Urkundenbuch zur Geschichte der jetzt die Preussischen Regierungsbezirke Coblenz und Trier bildenden mittelrheinischen Territorien
459:
Aarts, Bas (2009) "Montferland' en de consequenties. De vroege burchten bij Alpertus van Metz", H.L. Janssen en W. Landewé (ed.),
253:
There are two very notable proposals which have not created a lasting consensus, but which are discussed in secondary literature.
168:
Soon after, in a charter of 7 Oct 950, a place called Cassallum, probably Kessel on the left bank of the Maas between
543:
301:
79:. This implies that Ansfried the elder is brother to Bishop Robert, who was himself described as a relative to the
222:
Later in the 960s are two records of a Count Ansfried with a county in or near the Dutch river delta area, one in
257:
126:
111:
350:
133:
102:) of Wicfrid, the founder of that Abbey. He was probably also the rebel who held the fort of Chevremont near
452:
Aarts, Bas (1994) "Ansfried, graaf en bisschop. Een stand van zaken", in: J. Coolen en J. Forschelen (ed.),
76:
567:
383:
141:
633:
547:
317:
305:
68:
17:
531:
530:
van Winter, (1981) Ansfried en Dirk, twee namen uit de Nederlandse geschiedenis van de 10e en 11e eeuw
184:(a certain vassal of ours Ansfried) was the beneficiary of the rights to have a market and mint there.
616:
191:
471:
Op zand, veen en klei: Liber amicorum Karel Leenders bij gelegenheid van zijn zeventigste verjaardag
208:
137:
107:
62:
641:
628:
624:
395:
645:
577:
309:
153:
95:
58:
516:
492:
526:
313:
84:
501:
269:
199:
38:
659:
611:
242:
50:
361:
p.529. Baerten (p.1156) thinks this might show signs of a connection to that Bishop.
329:
157:
125:
Not yet described as a count, a first mention might be in 928, in a grant made by
98:
in the 950s, as is often thought, then he was also described as a blood-relative (
483:
227:
46:
256:
1. Vanderkindere (1902), proposed that Ansfried was in fact the same person as
190:
According to some historians such as Aarts, Ansfried the elder is mentioned by
231:
80:
463:(Wetenschappelijke Reeks Nederlandse Kastelenstichting 2) pp. 13–59.
598:
560:
478:
Bachrach, Berhard S., and Bachrach, David S., (Translators and Editors),
169:
103:
87:
for his education, after he had already spent time with his other uncle.
54:
585:
215:
161:
461:
Middeleeuwse Kastelen in veelvoud. Nieuwe Studies over oud erfgoed
454:
Opera Omnia II. Een verzameling geschied- en heemkundige opstellen
223:
173:
272:, though the two have later, according to him, become confused.
195:
523:
La Formation territoriale des principautés belges au Moyen Âge
180:" (in the country of Maasland, in the county of Rudolf), and
207:
and the founder of the abbey, who was acting on its behalf,
71:, describing Ansfried's nephew of the same name, named two
65:, who was also a powerful count until he became a bishop.
507:
Jaarboek. Limburgs Geschied- en Oudheidkundig Genootschap
292:
is used, which is normally used to mean paternal uncle.
245:, near Liège, which he granted to the bishop of Liège.
498:
Annalen des Historischen Vereins für den Niederrhein
57:, and which was coming under the control of the new
612:http://resources.huygens.knaw.nl/retroboeken/obnb/
482:, Catholic University Press, Washington, DC, 2014
140:in 939. They were talked down by their compatriot
165:and so being a double vassal would be possible.
264:in Latin. This is no longer widely accepted.
8:
136:near Liège after the Lotharingians lost the
148:In 950, a count Ansfried "fidelis noster" (
487:Baerten (1961) "Les Ansfrid au Xe siècle"
640:can be found in MGH SS rer. Germ. NS IX.
480:Widukind of Corvey’s Deeds of the Saxons
304:wrote that Robert was even a brother of
18:Ansfried the elder, count in Lotharingia
489:Revue belge de Philologie et d'Histoire
281:
49:, a former kingdom which contained the
178:in pago Masalant in comitatu Ruodolfi
7:
609:Oorkonden van Noord-Brabant 690-1312
408:Oorkonden van Noord-Brabant 690-1312
237:In July 985, one of the Ansfrieds,
650:Res gestae saxonicae sive annalium
249:Notable non-consensus speculations
25:
652:can be found in MGH SS rer. Germ.
666:10th-century Lotharingian people
182:"cuidam vassallo nostro Ansfrid"
90:If Ansfried was the same as the
525:, Bruxelles, H. Lamertin, 1902
574:Opera diplomatica et historica
27:10th-century European nobleman
1:
509:vol. 145 (2009) pp. 9–67
439:See Aarts (2016) and Karsten.
623:can be found in MGH SS VIII
127:Gilbert, Duke of Lotharingia
37:, was a 10th-century count (
621:Gesta abbatum Gemblacensium
430:See Baerten and van Winter.
112:Duke Gilbert of Lotharingia
45:), who held 15 counties in
682:
544:Alberic of Trois Fontaines
316:. MGH SS XXIII, anno 921,
302:Alberic of Trois Fontaines
491:39-4 pp. 1144–1158
258:Ehrenfrid, son of Ricfrid
176:, is described as being "
514:Zwischen Glaube und Welt
381:Les annales de Flodoard
198:) of the newly founded
77:Robert, Bishop of Trier
572:Miraeus (Foppens ed.)
566:. French ed. by Lauer
553:Beyer, Heinrich (ed.)
473:, Hilversum, Verloren
42:
521:Vanderkindere, Léon,
398:and MGH SS XXI, p.393
75:uncles, Ansfried and
69:Thietmar of Merseburg
617:Sigebert of Gembloux
192:Sigebert of Gembloux
239:comes illustris vir
209:Wicbert of Gembloux
152:) was mentioned by
138:Battle of Andernach
108:Battle of Andernach
63:Ansfried of Utrecht
646:Widukind of Corvey
588:, MGH DD OI no.82
576:, Vol. I, 2nd ed.
310:Henry I of Germany
241:, was holding the
154:Louis "d'Outremer"
106:in 939, after the
421:MGH DD OIII p.413
194:as the advocate (
110:and the death of
96:Abbey of Gembloux
59:Holy Roman Empire
16:(Redirected from
673:
512:Karsten, (2016)
440:
437:
431:
428:
422:
419:
413:
405:
399:
392:
386:
377:
371:
368:
362:
359:
353:
347:
341:
338:
332:
326:
320:
299:
293:
286:
21:
681:
680:
676:
675:
674:
672:
671:
670:
656:
655:
540:
538:Primary sources
449:
444:
443:
438:
434:
429:
425:
420:
416:
406:
402:
393:
389:
378:
374:
369:
365:
360:
356:
348:
344:
339:
335:
327:
323:
314:Bruno the Great
308:, wife of King
300:
296:
288:The Latin word
287:
283:
278:
251:
120:
85:Bruno the great
28:
23:
22:
15:
12:
11:
5:
679:
677:
669:
668:
658:
657:
654:
653:
643:
631:
614:
606:
601:, MGH DD OIII
593:
580:
570:
558:
551:
546:MGH SS XXIII,
539:
536:
535:
534:
528:
519:
510:
503:
494:
485:
476:
467:
457:
448:
445:
442:
441:
432:
423:
414:
400:
387:
372:
363:
354:
349:MGH DD Otto I
342:
333:
321:
312:and mother of
306:Queen Mathilda
294:
280:
279:
277:
274:
270:Abbey of Thorn
250:
247:
200:Gembloux Abbey
119:
116:
26:
24:
14:
13:
10:
9:
6:
4:
3:
2:
678:
667:
664:
663:
661:
651:
647:
644:
642:
639:
635:
632:
630:
626:
622:
618:
615:
613:
610:
607:
604:
600:
597:
594:
591:
587:
584:
581:
579:
575:
571:
569:
565:
562:
559:
556:
552:
549:
545:
542:
541:
537:
533:
529:
527:
524:
520:
518:
515:
511:
508:
504:
502:
499:
495:
493:
490:
486:
484:
481:
477:
475:
472:
468:
466:
462:
458:
455:
451:
450:
446:
436:
433:
427:
424:
418:
415:
412:
409:
404:
401:
397:
391:
388:
385:
382:
376:
373:
367:
364:
358:
355:
352:
346:
343:
340:Bachrach p.87
337:
334:
331:
325:
322:
319:
315:
311:
307:
303:
298:
295:
291:
285:
282:
275:
273:
271:
265:
263:
259:
254:
248:
246:
244:
243:County of Huy
240:
235:
233:
230:, and one in
229:
225:
220:
217:
212:
210:
206:
201:
197:
193:
188:
185:
183:
179:
175:
171:
166:
163:
159:
155:
151:
146:
143:
139:
135:
130:
128:
123:
117:
115:
113:
109:
105:
101:
100:consanguineus
97:
93:
88:
86:
82:
78:
74:
70:
66:
64:
60:
56:
52:
51:low countries
48:
44:
40:
36:
32:
19:
649:
637:
620:
608:
595:
582:
573:
563:
554:
522:
513:
506:
497:
488:
479:
470:
460:
453:
435:
426:
417:
407:
403:
390:
380:
375:
366:
357:
345:
336:
324:
297:
289:
284:
266:
261:
255:
252:
238:
236:
221:
213:
189:
186:
181:
177:
167:
158:West Francia
150:our faithful
149:
147:
131:
124:
121:
99:
91:
89:
72:
67:
34:
30:
29:
500:, Heft 209
228:Teisterbant
47:Lotharingia
550:, year 921
394:MGH DD OI
276:References
156:, king of
142:Count Immo
134:Chevremont
638:Chronicon
596:Diplomata
583:Diplomata
262:avunculus
232:Toxandria
92:advocatus
81:Ottonians
660:Category
634:Thietmar
605:year 985
599:Otto III
592:year 946
561:Flodoard
517:pp.31-36
396:pp.507-8
384:p.157 n2
170:Roermond
73:paternal
55:Lorraine
31:Ansfried
564:Annales
557:(Vol.1)
447:Sources
290:patruus
205:Lambert
118:Records
94:of the
35:Ansfrid
586:Otto I
456:, 7-85
411:p.31ff
330:no.167
328:Beyer
216:Otto I
162:vassal
629:p.529
625:p.528
603:p.413
590:p.161
568:p.157
548:p.756
351:p.210
318:p.756
224:Varik
214:When
174:Venlo
104:Liège
43:comes
39:Latin
578:p.41
532:link
465:link
379:See
196:vogt
172:and
53:and
226:in
33:or
662::
648:,
636:,
627:,
619:,
114:.
41::
20:)
Text is available under the Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike License. Additional terms may apply.