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after I left, and suggested various substitutes'. A few weeks later, however, a meeting of the
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I am of opinion that there has always hitherto been a great dearth of such members in the House of
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Will you not, at some convenient time, avail yourself of those well-known means which are always at hand to enable you to retire from your post, when the infant legislator of the House of Margam shall be ripe for action, and thus surrender back the situation which you hold as a trust for that family
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252:(1790–1870) was supervisory architect and designed parts of the interior and exterior of the house, the stables, terraces and lodges. Talbot also took a keen interest in the project, encouraging his architects to borrow elements from
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The wealthiest commoner: C. R. M. Talbot, M.P., F.R.S. (1803–1890)"
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