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777:. Delete the cookie "dismissSiteNotice" for en.wikipedia.org. You can also delete all your cookies or all your browsing data but this may have many other effects on the websites you use. Or you can use another browser where you haven't clicked "". If you want to keep a book you are working on then save it first.
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Is there no way to create a button somewhere on top of the page for unhiding the Book
Creator Interface instead of it disappearing completely when we click on "Hide" button? Simply clicking on the "Unhide" button would save a whole lot of time that we spend (Half of the whole day in my case, before I
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But there is something you can do here. The best way to diagnose this is to take each article in turn, create a book from it alone, and then upload that book. Most of these one-article books will build OK, perhaps one or two will fail. So you will then find out which articles have a problem. If an
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yeah, about that. I would love to do what you're suggesting, but now I can't. In my frustration, I clicked the "hide" button, and now I don't know how to make the box reappear! I went back to the "Manage Your Book" page and there doesn't seem to be any way to reverse this decision, from what I can
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Your assessment is correct. The renderer for books is also used by the 2 column PDF, and this renderer doesn't support many of the options. The single column PDF is an expiriment to replace the PDF renderer with something different that would work a little better. These are known problems, but the
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with more than 500 pages. However, an alternative option is to fork a book just prior to the 500 page limit, by saving it under a unique title (or revision), prior to proceeding to adding more pages and subsequent topics, although later saves of the book may fail. Again, as already indicated, this
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I recently discovered the Book tool a few days ago, and after I enabled it, the interface tool appeared above all of the articles. However, due to time constraints, I elected to save creating a book for later. Now, I went back to try to create a book, and the interface box no longer appears above
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This is the wrong place for such a discussion. (I might just comment that most books, whether printed or electronic, have a surprisingly short shelf-life. For example educational resources also update regularly and a
Wikibook is a great way of ensuring that the latest intake of students get the
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Every time I hover my mouse over a link, anywhere in
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articles. I am still able to add links directly to the book when I mouse over them, but without the interface box, I am unable to look at, organize, or purchase any book I make. Is this an issue that other people are having, and if so, how can I fix it?
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Wikimedia Foundation and Knowledge make no money from its sales. Nor can we help with its problems, you should contact PediaPress directly through the details given on their web
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It worked! Thanks for the help. That being said, you guys might want to make the hide/unhide option a bit easier to manage than having to track down cookies and delete them in your browser settings.
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gathering all major issues with this extension. Issues that can't be solved and are not yet covered on the page at meta should be added there.
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found this thread) on trying to get it back. I wouldn't have dared to hide it at all if I knew how not easy it is to see it again.--
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Yeah, that page works, thanks. It's still annoying that the box still doesn't show up, but at least I can work on the book. Thanks!
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I have done that, too. It didn't work, either. I even copied and pasted code from books that actually work, but it didn't help.
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Bad code in a template. You can usually identify the template, but may need help from our community to fix it.
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Good job for this option. I'm really glad your idea shows me what to do next time. Thanks! --
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on the one you don't want. That's simpler that the "Articles for deletion" process. --
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