Help talk:Citation Style 1/Archive 34

2751:).@72.43.99.146: Pagination and other differences are an issue, sure, but much like reverifying claims when adding a missing ISBN, this is a reasonable responsibility to place on the editor to handle. For instance, I'm currently working with two examples: one is a simple PDF scan of a paper book (it is literally identical, except for the highly theoretical possibility of cosmic rays and scan error), and the other is a more complete digital version (HTML, selectable text, footnotes displayed in a popup on hover, etc.) but where the provider has taken pains to maintain pagination (they mark the page transitions from the paper version visually in the digital text). In both these cases, the paper and digital books are the same 5078:

secondary. Because everything that is produced by anonymous or pseudonymous writers/editors is inherently unreliable. This includes, articles, bots, scripts, templates, and entire platforms. As far as anything produced by such actors, there is no formal quality control, whether that is verifiability/reliability checking for wikitext or version testing/control for wikiscript. So I am not discussing whether an identifier in an a priori unreliable reference can communicate with a potentially unreliable platform through a potentially unreliable API. It is unimportant. Can this id assist a non-expert user in determining whether a reference is valid or not?

2721:. It would be foolish to assume in any strong way that the ISBN in an article matches the version originally consulted, although in practice it seems to cause no problems for ISBNs to be added afterwards, because the other purpose of citations is simply to help readers find the references to learn more. I think it's a losing effort to try to educate every editor that they should manually verify every reference when they add an ISBN. Perhaps this is just another example of how the isolated discussions at these templates can fail to match the wider wiki - and another reason to consider not using citation templates. — Carl 5473:. Not a perfect example as our article actually deals with multiple editions of that work, where the wikidata item must be for a single edition, but the general point stands. In citations, more identifiers are generally better; and regardless of any effort for fancy citation integration with Wikidata (which idea I'm significantly ambivalent about), one can view Wikidata as another database of bibliographic data analogous to Worldcat (but better, in many ways, because the data in Worldcat is crap and cannot, in practice, be improved). -- 5183:

parameter based on the id. The first criterion: is this param going to make reference checking easier? If not, the matter is closed. If yes, the question shifts to the programming cost. If the addition of this parameter has a significant effect on existing code, it can be rejected, since there is an alternative. If the addition of a helpful parameter has trivial effect, it should be included. That is the purview if the citation system. Whether, and how well, it links to external systems has nothing to do with a citation's purpose.

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you mean by "internal identifiers". When an id genuinely and uniquely identifies to a work, can be publicly retrieved, and has no legal ramifications, it is a usable identifier for the purpose of discovering the source cited, and (in the case of published content) directly support the wikitext. Btw, all identifiers can seem "opaque" to readers. As they should: they are not there to be "understood", but to stand in for something else, that must be researched if the reader wants to verify the citation.

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default. They will not affect the result of existing SPARQL queries, and so on. So yes, I also find it quite useless to have a property for Google Scholar cluster ids, not because of quality concerns (we know how to deal with that) but rather because I do not see how we could add enough statements with this property to make it useful. But it does not matter, and if someone thinks it is a good use of their time to add cluster ids to items manually I am very happy to let them do that.

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change an existing ISBN without reverifying the claim. In these scenarios, having a single cite contain the ISBNs of multiple editions (which may in fact say the complete opposite of each other on the point cited!) is not just confusing but even plain wrong. That there are editors who do this in practice is not an argument for specifically supporting the practice in the implementation. Any argument for support of multiple ISBN must rest on the existence of multiple

3589:(why is that template family not parametric??), but I think it would be a missed opportunity to reuse code for the lookup logic (including quirky cases such as the Bengali override), as well as the presentation. Current state is essentially code duplication, which I'm sure you know leads to poor maintainability and violates the principle of least astonishment for the user, which has to deal with two deceptively similar, but not identical interfaces and behaviours. 1781:{{Cite journal/new| doi = 10.1371/JOURNAL.PONE.0010676| volume = 5| issue = 5| last3 = Tassell| first3 = James L. Van| last1 = Williams| first1 = Jeffrey T.| last2 = Carpenter| first2 = Kent E.| last7 = Smith| first7 = Michael| last4 = Hoetjes| first4 = Paul| last6 = Etnoyer| first6 = Peter| last5 = Toller| first5 = Wes| title = Biodiversity Assessment of the Fishes of Saba Bank Atoll, Netherlands Antilles| journal = PLOS ONE| date = 2010-05-21}} 31: 1889:{{Cite journal| doi = 10.1371/JOURNAL.PONE.0010676| volume = 5| issue = 5| last1 = Williams| first1 = Jeffrey T.| last2 = Carpenter| first2 = Kent E.| last3 = Tassell| first3 = James L. Van| last4 = Hoetjes| first4 = Paul| last5 = Toller| first5 = Wes| last6 = Etnoyer| first6 = Peter| last7 = Smith| first7 = Michael| title = Biodiversity Assessment of the Fishes of Saba Bank Atoll, Netherlands Antilles| journal = PLOS ONE| date = 2010-05-21}} 1619:{{Cite journal| doi = 10.1371/JOURNAL.ONE.0010676| volume = 5| issue = 5| last3 = Tassell| first3 = James L. Van| last1 = Williams| first1 = Jeffrey T.| last2 = Carpenter| first2 = Kent E.| last7 = Smith| first7 = Michael| last4 = Hoetjes| first4 = Paul| last6 = Etnoyer| first6 = Peter| last5 = Toller| first5 = Wes| title = Biodiversity Assessment of the Fishes of Saba Bank Atoll, Netherlands Antilles| journal = PLOS ONE| date = 2010-05-21}} 1326:). Checking if a copy is legal can be genuinely hard even for librarians (it is not just whether it is an author manuscript or not! Very often, you need to take into account policies from publishers, from universities and funders, to assess the status of these copies). These considerations have little to do with the nature of the identifier used to insert the link (for instance, it is possible that a 5289: 4807:, because they are genuinely used as identifiers by many people. But for Google Books or Google Scholar, as far as I know these are just internal identifiers, and it would be a bit weird to cite a book by its Google Books ID. The ID exists and can be seen in the URL, sure (that's how all these websites work) but that does not mean readers should care about this particular string, I think. 4661:

publications, and at worse they are garbage caused by Google Scholar being more or less entirely automated and uncurated. Keep them as far away as possible. Google scholar identifiers for individual people may be ok (at least the ones that are well-curated by their subjects) but that doesn't make the rest of Google scholar's structure valid for import to Wikidata or anywhere else. —

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size. But it does happen. Even if it did not, code should be there that prevents line breaks right after the prepended opening quotation mark and also around the prepended closing quotation mark. That's just good programming, and is easy to do. The workarounds that work add (no-wrap) wiki-template code or html code in the variable field. Ugly.

2408: 600: 4717:. And we can do that for many other services. But the only useful thing we can do with that number is to construct back the URL where we got it from. So why on earth should we display that number on an article? The fact that we can technically do it does not mean that we should do it! Do we really want to see something like that: 4156:

quotation or title should be stuck to the preceding character. Is it possible to make those quotation marks "stick" to the text immediately adjacent? We don't want to "nowrap" the whole quotation, just the quotation mark and the element immediately following (or preceding, for a terminating quotation mark) it. –

4944:"Plain text literal URLs" are horrible for at least two reasons: you need a bot to update them if the target website decides to alter the URL format, and people are prone to simply copy whatever is currently in their URL bar regardless of whatever ridiculous tracking parameters, etc, might be cluttering it up. — 2684:. Basically, a citation with more than one isbn obfuscates the cited edition. Multiple isbns in citations should be discouraged, and if present, removed. An allowance could perhaps be made for eISBNs if the content is exactly the same as the print version. But even there, there are issues with pagination etc. 2341:

if any). If there are none, it may also be best to not support ordered parameters anymore for this template. If there are, the date field would unfortunately be positioned after the accessdate one to not break existing usage (of course not affecting named parameter usage). The discussion started on the

5356:(1) not many Knowledge editors will use the parameter, so it will have little practical usefulness, and (2) editors who love to run bots will run massive campaigns to add the parameter automatically, with little concern about different works with the same title, different editions of work, and the like. 4916:

Plain text literal URLs are best IMO. Adding layers of abstraction has a downsize and unclear what it gains in return is worth it. These types of things make it really difficult for bot writers and they usually just get skipped and thus not maintained and so are more error prone over time to link rot

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The pertinent configuration, per above: Windows 7 pro 32 bit. Radeon 6350 display adapter, v. 8.830, @ 1440x900 resolution. DELL E1911 display, DVI input at 16:9 aspect ratio (native). Chrome v. 58.0.3029.11. Knowledge window maximised to cover entire screen. I wish I could remember offhand the pages

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or the html tag) at the beginning and/or end of the quoted text rectifies this. So something can be done, clumsily. I would add that this has nothing to do with typesetting; this is about the integrity and readability of the citation. Readers should be able to see at a glance where quoted text begins

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is currently unrelated to cs1|2, but in my view that's a mistake. The consensus reached at language link favoured the reconciliation of what used to be two separate presentations of the exact same concept, i.e. the language of an external resource. With this change I seek to cement this consensus, so

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of the work. The latter case also has a separate "Online" publication date, and other signs that indicate it might be being independently updated, and so differ from the print edition in substantive ways. I would hesitate long, and consider well, before adding the "Online ISBN" of this latter case to

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Having looked manually at many ISBNs while replacing the magic word with the template, I can say that it is not at all uncommon to see an ISBN in an id, or as a postscript to the template entirely, when there is another isbn using the isbn= parameter. The template really ought to reflect this common

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Discussion has started to expand this template to display the author and to support a date. However, this template also accepts ordered parameters, although the documentation makes no mention of it. I wonder if there's an easy way to verify that no ordered-parameter usage exists (and to list these,

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If I have autocorrect turned on in my OS, my browser will correct "accessdate" to "access date" for me while I"m typing, but it will leave "access-date" alone. Spell checkers in software don't have that same context you describe, so they'll correct what they see as a typo by inserting a space between

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I have restored the curly quote replacement code because kerning shall not be applied to the link portion of a wikilink. The example above, uses curley quotes in the label part of the wikilink. The example below shows that even with the curley quote replacement code restored, the link to wikisource

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Our problem is a conflict between the need to kern quote marks and the need to prevent the access signal from wrapping to the next line. In this simpler example you can see how we kern the opening quote mark. The closing quote mark is supposed to be similar but the access signal no-wrapping (which

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For the same reasons, it is unimportant to me what Wikidata (or Knowledge) can be "in principle". In principle, anything will be perfect. But my experience with Wikidata is that the "data" part is often inscrutable, and there is no mechanism to verify anything from within the platform. Additionally,

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Finally, it is wrong to say that "Wikidata items are "supported" by Knowledge references". Many references in Wikidata do not rely on Knowledge at all! Some statements were imported from Knowledge, but in principle Wikidata can work independently of any Knowledge, as an autonomous database. In fact,

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I assume that a Google ID parameter could replace the url parameter. A Google ID parameter can be both a pointer to content such as doi or arxiv (when Google publishes all or part of the work), and a pointer to classification such as ISBN or ISSN (these are actually marketing ids). I don't know what

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I don't think these IDs deserve separate links at the end of citations. As a reader I would find it quite annoying to see these opaque identifiers popping up: they don't mean anything to me (and they don't mean much to machines either because at least Google Scholar has no public API). Using them to

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OK, let's not all get worked up. This last description fits the rendering I see when I shrink my window and see what it does to Trappist's citation template with a quote in it. If I shrink the window just right, I can see the single quotation mark after the period being wrapped to the next line, all

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When I narrow the browser window the entire quote with its quotation marks wraps to the next line. As I continue to narrow the display individual characters wrap one at a time to the next line. I'm guessing that this is your complaint. If so, that happens because all rendered cs1|2 citations have

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I think it's an author copy, not a copyvio. An earlier version of OAbot had a problem with ELNEVER — it was posting citeseerx links, and those are often violations. But this one (as with all hdl OA links I have looked at) appears to be legitimate. More specifically, I think it's something one of the

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The technicalities behind an identifier are immaterial. They are included in citations in order to discover a source. If the identifier can fulfill this requirement, that is sufficient. The only thing that matters, where citations are concerned, is to verify claims in an article. Everything else is

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Wikidata items as citations is problematic. There are reliability questions, and also questions of cyclical references or self-references. Wikidata items are "supported" by Knowledge references. Apart from the fact that the validity of the underlying references is not declared in any way, Knowledge

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I view such wrapping, as in the example immediately above, as improper. You would never see such wrapping in a print publication, or even, ideally, on the web. A quotation mark at the beginning of a quotation or title should be stuck to the subsequent character, and a quotation mark at the end of a

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as "another project". There is more overlap than not. I am proposing to add it to the fold. Yes, the complexity of the Lua project will increase (marginally), but much better than having code duplication, and the overall entropy of Knowledge will decrease. Anyway I guess I'll table this one for now

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In spite of my argument above (re to Redrose64), I disagree with your position here. One should not add an ISBN to a cite lacking it without reverifying the claim it supports, in which case you do not need multiple ISBNs, just the ISBN of the specific edition consulted. And you should certainly not

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You are, of course, entitled to your opinion. However, I suspect that in your reasoning you are conflating the number of ISBNs with the number of editions involved. When there are multiple valid ISBNs for the work cited, that have differing qualities unrelated to the verifiability of the cite (e.g.

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seems to indicate that there are none. Still, there are only a hundred-ish articles that use that template so it wouldn't be too onerous to add a snippet of code to the template that renders an error message when the template is used with positional parameters. Wait a few days and then search for

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guideline for this parameter. Does this parameter have a canon? Citation needed. (Let's change it too.) 3) If usage is 99% "accessdate" and 1% "access-date", then an unwritten rule or tradition supersedes the examples here. Thus these examples make fools of people, and they need to be corrected. If

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My opposition to blind insertion of Wikidata is not related to any one template, and how well it is implemented. It is about the reliability of the Wikidata statements themselves. Statements based on metadata from unverified, possibly misleading, unreliable, or irrelevant citations are bad data. I

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I've no idea how stable Google IDs are relative to other identifiers (they may all change). I don't know what Google's policy is in backlinking changed IDs, relative to similar policies of other id providers. I do know that Google IDs, and the items they identify, are fairly easy to track and use.

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Amongst many other things. People's obsession with not breaking text is really getting a bit out of hand. I'm finding more and more "no-wrap" all over the place. That is BAD. no-wrap is only supposed to be used for very limited pieces of text, in very limited set of cases. By using it all over the

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I assume that line-breaks as I am describing could happen in all browsers given the right conditions, but I have only observed it with Chrome. Very hard to reproduce because it depends on any of the following: physical screen size/virtual screen size/resolution/font rendering engine/font size/text

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The legitimate use for this parameter that I can imagine is if a reader comes across a claim in a Knowledge article which the reader wants to add to Wikidata. Knowing the Wikidata item associated with the source would expedite the process of adding the claim to Wikidata (and of course providing a

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No, imo the technicalities are secondary. When wikitext may be unreliable, stability and interoperability of the underlying mechanism is enhancing such unreliability. First, make sure that the reference is correct. We know that the URL can be inserted, however the OP asked very specifically for a

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I have noticed several instances in Chrome for Windows (versions 59.x and 58.x) where said function breaks the opening quotation mark from the quoted text. The markup-based workarounds (they do exist) are clumsy. Please add relevant no-wrap code between the opening quotation mark and the adjacent

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If a citation lacks an isbn, find an edition that verifies the reference and add that edition's isbn. Citing more than one isbn is looking for trouble: "The purpose of the ISBN is to establish and identify one title or edition of a title from one specific publisher and is unique to that edition".

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Without kerning, the terminal quote mark in my example would be placed directly adjacent to the trailing double quote mark applied by the cs1|2 template; kerning inserts a small amount of space so that the two quote marks can be distinguished. When I originally wrote the kerning code, I deferred

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In Wikidata, it does not really hurt to create new properties for particular bibliographic databases. As a Wikidata contributor or consumer, it is easy to ignore a property if you do not find it useful. The statements using these new properties will just be ignored by other Wikimedia projects by

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it generated, part of the URL has been prepended to the article's title. I am guessing that this is due to the first double quote mark in the URL (as copied and pasted from the browser's address bar) being misinterpreted by the template as the first double quote mark delineating the start of the

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If the argument is the same as the site language, currently the template does show "(in English)". This differs from the cs1|2 behaviour. The documentation makes a good case for this use: " there is a reason the reader would assume the link to be in a foreign language (e.g. a foreign title)". If

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Apart from the technical explanation, the use of the URL is misleading: It doesn't seem to land the user on the article, the article title, or a contents page where the article is listed. We have to take it on faith that such article exists in volume 10 of this magazine. I would remove the URL

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is to consolidate all required work necessary in a single place. Were the presentation portion of that a matter of some complexity, I might agree that it should be split out. As it is, presentation is trivial so leaving it where it is does no harm. I certainly would have considered separate

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In the Knowledge citation templates, adding an identifier means adding a short snippet of text at the end of citations. That is directly visible for readers and not easy to ignore. So I think we should really restrict these to well established bibliographic databases (which are widely used to

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It was a horrible mistake to add this as a property to Wikidata and it would compound the mistake to import this mess from Wikidata to Knowledge. These are not id's of papers. Their full urls on Google scholar clearly identifies them as "clusters"; at best they are clusters of closely related

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place, editors are messing with the flexibility of HTML to dynamically size and position elements, causing problems for mobile, columns, infoboxes etc... Trust the browser to do it as good as possible, and just live with the fact that HTML doesn't deliver perfection, but always DOES deliver. —

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I have not looked at the rest of the COinS output to see if there are undesirable side effects of this change, but it appears to explain what the OP was seeing. The CS1 module appears to be sorting the author names in the COinS data. Andy, what happens if you export that citation to Zotero? –

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I don't know what your disentanglement work entailed, but from a Software Engineering standpoint sharing a common module/function and reusing it from multiple dependents should be encouraged and I don't see a problem. It can be done cleanly and effectively. Could you please elaborate on your

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1) Both forms are listed, and they function identically. Therefore both forms are canonical. Or, whichever form is listed first is canonical. I changed the order here, thus changing the canon. Is that a problem? 2) I thought that this instruction page, not linking to any policy page, was the

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One minor point in response to the OP: I patrol the CS1 unsupported parameters category, and I occasionally see a well-meaning editor incorrectly "correct" "accessdate" to "access date", which introduces an invalid parameter. I have never seen anyone change "access-date" to "access date". –

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It adds a unique identifier for the source cited, just as ISBN, DOI, OL and others do. It does so even where no other unique identifier (and indeed, even where no other online resource) exists. Furthermore, that identifier can in turn be used to fetch identifiers and other metadata for the

5910:{{Cite journal |last1=Shea |first1=Christopher |title=A Radical Anthropologist Finds Himself in Academic 'Exile' |journal=] |volume=59 |issue=32 |pages=A14–A15 |date=2013-04-19 |url=http://www.chronicle.com/article/A-Radical-Anthropologist-Finds/138499/ |issn=00095982 |via=] |df=mdy-all }} 6099:<span title="ctx_ver=Z39.88-2004&rft_val_fmt=info%3Aofi%2Ffmt%3Akev%3Amtx%3Ajournal&rft.genre=article&rft.atitle=%27Title%27&rft_id=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.example.com&rfr_id=info%3Asid%2Fen.wikipedia.org%3AHelp+talk%3ACitation+Style+1%2FArchive+34" class="db-WjM5ODg": --> 4170:

They are not improper, non-ideal perhaps. You have long words and lines, that you are forcing the browser to wrap into multiple lines. It has to break it somewhere, so it breaks at the spot where it is least damaging. It's perfectly normal, as a matter of fact, it's all determined by the

1710:, and none of them referred to any ordering of author parameters when there is more than one author. That surprises me, given the importance that journals and academics ascribe to the order of authors of papers, but it looks like you may be trying to do something that is not possible. – 695:

support for wikilinked title text that cs1|2 would render in quotes because, in general, there is relatively little need for linking to en.wiki articles about a chapter or news article (if there are any such articles). Of course that ignores interwiki links to WikiSource among others.

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While it's conceivable that Zotero also applies sorting (I've not yet tested that), in this case the reordering is already present in our COinS metadata. I used the word "apparently" because I can't rule out some other algorithm that coincidentally applied alphabetical sorting.

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I am not enthusiastic about opening cs1|2 to use by unrelated projects which might get broken by changes made here. I am not enthusiastic about the prospect of cs1|2 maintainers being responsible for other projects which they will necessarily be were we to open cs1|2 as you

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The technicalities behind an identifier are not unimportant at all. Stability and interoperability do matter. If all you care about is whether "this id assist a non-expert user in determining whether a reference is valid or not", then just use the URL, that is what they are

942: 524: 2588:, that publishes digital copies of print books. In most cases (at least for now) the print and digital versions are identical in all the ways that matter for citation purposes, but each has a separate ISBN (often called "eISBN" or "Online ISBN"; it's analogous to 2385:

Insource was what I was looking for, thank you very much. I also thought that to detect errors this way a category needed to be used, but it's also nice to know that error messages can be enough. I'll experiment with this idea in my sandbox. Thanks again,

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characters (U+2018 & U+2019) are replaced with simple typewriter quotes, perhaps a bit overzealously. I've tweaked the sandbox to limit that replacement so that only those curly quotes that are the first and last characters to the title are replaced:

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As mentioned above, the function will add all transcluding articles to various categories. *If* this side effect is deemed undesirable (me, I think it's fine), we will need to refactor the function to separate the two concerns, which I would be happy to

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text. No-wrapping should be added after the closing quotation mark too, for the cases where the quote does not terminate. For style-conformance, a full-stop should be added right after the utilized template, and that stop might be left hanging. Thanks.

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As to the problem of rendering Wikidata items as citations, I think it would be fairly simple to convert identifiers which are present on Wikidata and absent in CS1/2 to URLs on the fly, and pick the "best" of these URLs based on a priority ranking. −

4354:). My experience is that it is wrapped before the first quotemark by my browser (Opera 36). It seems to me that this is variation between browsers, and so largely outside our control: you would need to request your browser vendor for an enhancement. -- 5595:

Shouldn't the reference to ISBN be changed from isbn=xxx to {{ISBN xxx? I realize that this is change is going to generate a lot of server load, but what's to be done? I certainly am not going to try anything of this magnitude myself. Just asking.

2759:. However, I also have a counter-example, in a third book I'm working with: the text of the print book is provided in modern form (selectable text etc. etc.), but original pagination from the print version is not preserved, making this a separate 5082:

This ease of use makes a reference more likely to be verifiable than a reference that omits a similar id, or that instead offers more restrictive systems. In an unreliable platform such as Knowledge, ease-of-reliability gets my vote.

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I have to explain further: It is misleading because the pertinent info is in a search- result window. According to guideline, such links should be used only when necessary, and they should be expressly declared as query results.

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That to me indicates that some editors are reading "accessdate" as text rather as a parameter label. This would likely fall under careless/lazy editing. Isn't it obvious from the context that "accessdate" is part of a script?!

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it is possible that a funny quotation mark may be at the end of a title string (or at least before a | or a ]]) — this particular example has been hacked to use strait double quotes in the anchor, but the text has a pair of

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Williams, Jeffrey T.; Carpenter, Kent E.; Tassell, James L. Van; Hoetjes, Paul; Toller, Wes; Etnoyer, Peter; Smith, Michael (2010-05-21). "Biodiversity Assessment of the Fishes of Saba Bank Atoll, Netherlands Antilles".

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is supplied, the proper url for the page could be wrapped around the page number in a sensible fashion; if no page number is supplied then either the title of the book could be linked in the absence of an explicit

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I take it this code is Lua, by the way. Excuse my ignorance, but how do I interface a template to invoke a Lua function please? (Feel free to send me to a tutorial) Specifically in our case, we will want something

2942:, I don't know either, but I suspect it's just there so that users can have custom CSS overrides on their clients, as opposed to this existing in some global Knowledge CSS file. Is there a way we can find for sure? 1282:

authors posted at their home institution, so I don't think it is problematic. I can't tell precisely which author did it, but three of them are listed as having the same institution as the preprint server (HKU). —

2592:). In terms of citations, each are equivalent but there are two ways to access the same source. For instance, your institution (school, library, whatever) may not be able to afford the online service (they are 5034:

An Investigation on Formaldehyde Emission Characteristics of Wood Building Materials in Chinese Standard Tests: Product Emission Levels, Measurement Uncertainties, and Data Correlations between Various Tests

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wikidata template. I tried to substitute the Cite Q template to reproduce the problem, but it's a Lua module, and I couldn't figure out how to substitute it. So I rewrote the citation in my sandbox, like so:

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without any stability guarantees (e.g. Google Scholar can change the cluster id of a paper freely, that should not break any other system. If Crossref suddenly decides to change its DOIs, people can rightly

1225:, which I hesitate to post, but I guess we need it for the discussion. There is a full-text link to the article on that webpage. I do not see any indication that this is a non-copyright-infringing copy. 1119: 4398:). If what you suggest is working, then one should expect, when carefully narrowing the browser window, that the dot and the quote mark will wrap simultaneously. Instead, they wrap individually; even the 3447:

There is an extra space at the beginning of the string, but it will get collapsed in most uses of the template – in the recommended use anyway. If this is deemed unacceptable (rolleyes), we can work around

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Why are you attacking me? I have made no statement suggesting that this 'issue' can or should be 'fixed'. All I have done is attempt to explain what it is that I think IP editor is complaining about.

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does not mean that you are citing that item, it means that you are citing the work represented by that item. So there is no issue of cyclical references at all! For instance, if I edit the article on

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method of access; service provider; or similar), multiple ISBNs would make the citation more robust and verification more convenient (or, in some cases, possible at all; both desirable properties). --

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The problem is that it can not easily be solved with redirects on Wikisource because as with this book, the will be hundreds subpages under the main page for many Wikisource sources. See for example:

5537:, enabling users to more easily create Wikidata items about the works already in their Zotero libraries. Since Zotero can already read metadata about works from other websites, or data files such as 659:

example does not work has nothing to do with any kind of quotes. The link doesn't work because a space (or underscore) is missing from between 'Crowning' and 'Mercy'. If I rewrite that example as:

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I think I have a fix; not pretty, but I think it works. There are several kerning conditions that we need to worry about. These only apply to quoted titles (journal article, website titles, etc):

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that any future changes to one or the other are applied to both. (In fact, I would favour the removal of the CSS class, because it currently does nothing by default, and I found no discussion about

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That's not how things work in practice, though. In practice, references are often added with no ISBN. Later in the article's development, someone looks up ISBNs for the works and adds them, as in

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Are you sure that Zotero is not sorting the author list on import? Also it is trivial to sort by the first authors last name in Zotero by clicking on the sort arrow in the Creator column header.

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Your example that 'worked', worked because the title is not rendered in quotes; it was instead rendered in italics. Kerning is only applied to titles that the cs1|2 templates wrap in quote marks.

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The dependancies for dead-url is listed as just 'url', but it actually seems to depend upon archive-url (and url and archive-date). Well, I don't get an error, but I don't get any effect either.

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now has a Wikidata translator. Not only does it read metadata from Wikidata items about works, so you can add them to your Zotero library, but it can export metadata in a format understood by

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Language support in cs1|2 is not as great as you seem to think it is. For convenience, it uses the built-in MediaWiki language support which is limited in its scope but works in most cases.

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As in PBS's report, Wikisource can't find the article. Note that I intentionally changed the curly single quote (used as an apostrophe) to a straight quote in the encyclopedia parameter.

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is looking for a single or double quote mark as the first and/or last character in the title text. With wikilinks, the wiki markup gets in the way and there are two forms of wikilink.

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parameter. Redundant ISBNs can typically be removed with no harm, and ISBNs in the id= parameter without an ISBN present elsewhere in the citation template should probably be moved to

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on making some templates, or the Lua modules behind them, work globally (i.e. across all Wikimedia projects). Citation templates have, naturally, been raised as one possible subject.

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usage, rather than trying to change it. It's also common to add ISBNs to existing citations, when there is no way to tell which edition was originally consulted, of course. — Carl

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There is unfortunately something wrong though, because this yields, for example, "{{#invoke:Citation/CS1|language_parameter|es }}". Perhaps it needs to be exported? Thanks for help.

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would certainly not consider the determining factor for the introduction of any CS1 parameter (such as Google ID), to be Wikidata interoperability, or any other interoperability.

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parameter of the cite templates—and vice versa. The goal is to somewhat enforce a consistency in styles, which I believe is already happening between the various cite templates.

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wrapper like the one you were suggesting, albeit with some code duplication, or we could add an optional flag to the existing function to control this behaviour (my preference).

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templates are the way they are. It appears that there once was a move to convert some or all of the 1200-ish templates to a module but that seems to have never happened (see

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Why do you think this would be a good change? It might help if you explained why you think this is a good idea, so that we can help correct some incorrect belief you hold. --

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for the identifier for a cited work, on Wikidata. While this will be essential for drawing metadata from Wikidata, it will be useful independently, also. Can we add one now?

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Sorry, I misread the OP. The sorting was within a citation, not between citations. Just to be clear, I agree that the oder of authors within a citation should be preserved.

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has a primary purpose of preventing the addition of multiple duplicate categories of the same kind at the end of the rendered citation. When there are multiple languages in

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As I understand things, it is now the standard way of giving the ISBN number to use the ISBN template. If one uses the parameter isbn= there is a bot which will change it.

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What I wrote in the edit summary that accompanied the reversions of your edits is correct: the canonical forms of multi-word cs1|2 parameter names are the hyphenated forms.

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not designed to be looked up manually by users (e.g. on Google Scholar you will not find a form where you can input a cluster id, whereas you will find the equivalents on

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keys. When the metadata are sorted, the sort compares the whole key/value string. Because author-names in this example are fist-name-first, that is how they were sorted.

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I've posted a link to this at the article talk page and may post other places to broaden this, depending on how this goes...who knows I may have something to learn here.

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In other words, it is an ID that is used in a system because of technical reasons (most databases need to rely on one), but is not used to communicate with other systems.

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all the special styling that other template used to have. So why do you want to add extre processing to this template to reintroduce special styling for language links? —

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so don't have an archive-url. When I add dead-url=yes to the cite template nothing changes. I was expecting a dead-link marker to be displayed in the References section.

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Now quotes and kerning. cs1|2 renders certain titles inside double quote marks. Sometimes titles, especially news article titles, contain single or double quote marks:

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keys respectively. Because there can only be one 'first' author, only one of each of these keys is allowed in the metadata; all other authors are placed in individual

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I can't seem to find the source of the CS1 template anywhere, so cannot confirm my hunch. Please could someone reply with (a) a link to the CS1 template source, (b) a

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I guess I must wonder why it is necessary to interlock the cs1|2 templates with other unrelated templates. Still, if you must, this, as a module, might do the trick:

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Identify the best way to implement this - I couldn't find the common template where the common appearance on the "cite" side is centralised, if there is such a thing

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When I was trying to understand the example, I was distracted by what I perceived as errors in writing the citation. Maybe the following would be less distracting:

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template is to be a replacement for the plain-text magic link which will be going away. cs1|2 never used the magic link capabilities so have no reason to use the

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The order of the author names was not preserved (instead, they were apparently sorted alphabetically by first name in the COinS output of the original template).

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Sorry for the mistake, and thanks for pointing it out. "kerning" is nice to have, however not having it is not a show stopper. How soon can the fix to access to "

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may be related. If the CS1 module calls Module:URL, the fix for both problems might be to modify that module. This is pure speculation, but it looks similar. –

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on all of those things; how then to know what it is that needs fixing if indeed fixing is required or possible? That is why I asked for a real life example.

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cs1|2 only shows English as a source language in the rendered citation when it is one of a list of multiple languages but never when it is the only language

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Perhaps you would explain how this would be useful. Given that a citation should contain full bibliographic details, what does a wikidata record add? ~

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I will try to recreate this with the exact configuration in place when I first saw the problem (I am at a different machine now). I believe I also used

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I don't want to reintroduce any special styling. I want to ensure that *if* any styling is introduced for one or another, they are introduced in both.

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seems to have two distinct responsibilities (code/name lookup, categorisation), and so it should probably split out in two separate functions, because

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I am asking here because apparently the talk page for the module internals redirects to the talk page for the style externals. Because dada, I guess.

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because an RFC made the decision to prefer hyphenated names, I suspect that there is little justification for a change away from that RFC's decision.

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I did not do anything with Zotero. As the OP said, "they were apparently sorted alphabetically ... in the COinS output of the original template". –

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yes, changing the order is a problem because the RFC specifically states that hyphenated parameter names are to be the 'normal use' parameter names.

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and pushing it right a long ways by inserting a continuous string of characters ahead of it. Then, adjust browser window size to see how it wraps.

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Recently, a consensus on a change to that template has been reached, and its appearance is now consistent with the various "cite" templates, e.g. "

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so the quote marks aren't produced by us, nor is there anythibg that nowrap could sensibly be applied to. The quotemarks are an inherent part of

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but is not run as a bot anymore (the BRFA was withdrawn). It has become a semi-automated tool where users are asked to check the links they add (

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and could not see that it was an obvious feature (so I assumed it was some sort of hidden character in the string or a fault in my scripting):

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if there were other parameters that needed the exact functionality so that duplicate code would be unnecessary. There are none so I did not.

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About Wikidata items as citations, I am not sure you understand the use case correctly. I invite you to have a closer look at the wonderful

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As you can see, cs1|2 does not apply any unique styling to the language parameter rendering. I don't know what, if any, styling the class

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I do not know where this alphabetization happens, assuming that it is not coincidence. I looked through a few different specs linked from

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I changed this documentation page to reflect this usage. Someone changed it back, saying "the canonical parameter names are hyphenated".

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Why do you say that "cs1|2 does not apply any unique styling"? I do not see any styling anywhere, sorry, could you please point me to it?

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As a test, I have commented out one line of "table.sort" code in the CS1 module sandbox. Now the citation in my sandbox looks like this:

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You should give only one ISBN: the one for the edition which you actually consulted. This has been discussed before, several times. --

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Fishing lesson: Scroll to the top of this page, find the "Search archives" box, type "English language specified", and you will get

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When I look at the HTML source, I see the authors alphabetized by last name. The relevant portion of the citation looks like this:

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template drags in a whole lot of wiki markup that just confuses the MediaWiki parser and corrupts the cs1|2 template's metadata:

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is a language code, and so we also need to look up the language name, just like cs1|2. How about the following, for maximum reuse

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the same citation as the print edition. These are, ultimately, up to editor discretion and judgement, to decide how to handle. --

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That was what sparked my suggestion: instead of making it look like the "official URL" for a book is at Google Books, providing

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qqqqTitle. Loremipsumdolorsitametconsecteturadipiscingelitseddoeiusmodtemporincididuntutlaboreetdoloremagnaaliqua. When I narrow

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When I look at the HTML source now, I see the authors listed in the numerical order given in the citation. In other words, the "

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Examining the bit above that follows the sentence "Then, adjust browser window size to see how it wraps." I find that it is

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extending this behaviour to cs1|2 is undesirable (would be interested to know why), and we want to keep the status quo for

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To reiterate, this is about hanging quote marks. I noticed rare instances of something like this in citations that employ

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columns; an unbreakable string of characters would disrupt even columnar display. I could, of course be wrong about this.

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Not a cs1|2 problem but is a MediaWiki 'issue'. If I write the google books url and the book title as an external link:

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Amodio, David M; Hamilton, Holly K (2012). "Intergroup anxiety effects on implicit racial evaluation and stereotyping".

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templates are part of a cs1|2 parameter value because we don't want all of that extraneous html and css in the metadata.

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publication, the author, publisher et al. It thereby makes each citation a starting point for the linked web of data.

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error checking to quietly accept OL identifiers with the OL prefix. The appearance of the rendering has not changed:

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if there is a second ISBN (a second ISBN usually implies a second source and cs1|2 templates are single-source only).

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the majority of Wikidata statements I have seen come from similar, inherently unreliable sources such as Knowledge.

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Can someone add a tracking category for "Id parameter with ISBN tempate"? Is that easy or requites extra coding? --

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without adding anything at the end seems more acceptable, but do the benefits really outweigh the added complexity?

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Anyway, if we are to stick to presentation only, as an alternative to the Bob module, why not expose a wrapper for

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The cs1|2 templates do not provide the functionality you seek. To mark a citation's url as dead, use the template

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there is a canon, it also needs to be revised. 4) "is" does not mean "forever shall be. It would be hard to excuse

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may not need the latter, or may need a different version of it. But this is a detail that we can flesh out later.

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Thanks for the pointers, very helpful! I take it this is the right place to have this preliminary discussion :-)

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For the time being, and until I noodle out an appropriate solution, for wikilinks like the first example below,

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not exposed in the user interface of the platform (because it is not intended to be used outside the platform).

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property forces the browser to break lines on character boundaries when it can't break them on word boundaries.

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Why there is only one category (for first language) added when there are two or more languages entered in para

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usage may well be as you describe. The decision taken in the RFC (2014) came long after the introduction of

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You would then modify your example to call that module (named Bob here for lack of a better name) this way:

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is a template for use with external links, to highlight that the linked resource is in a foreign language.

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parameters and WikiData provides author names first-name-first. As Editor Jonesey95 correctly points out,

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Overall I think we need to stop trying to promote every URL to the sacred status of identifier. Yes, from

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I think there is a difference between the identifiers we want to have in Wikidata and the ones we want to

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and/or pages specified with roman numerals but just the basic functionality would help for now. TIA HAND —

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template. In cs1|2 templates, all parameters are named so you can't use the unnamed parameter construct

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wikisource:fr:Dictionnaire universel d’histoire et de géographie Bouillet Chassang/Index alphabétique - A

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wikisource:fr:Dictionnaire universel d’histoire et de géographie Bouillet Chassang/Index alphabétique - A

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Loremipsumdolorsitametconsecteturadipiscingelitseddoeiusmodtemporincididuntutlaboreetdoloremagnaaliqua.

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If a list is all that you need, the insource search linked above should answer your requirement. Right?

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It is hard to point to something that does not exist. There is no styling (font, color, whatever) for

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It took me a hour or more to work out that this was the cause of a problem that I have, because I read

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identifiers that begin with an 'OL' prefix. cs1|2 emits an error message when the value assigned to

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First, what is an internal identifier? It is an ID that has many of the following characteristics:

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It would be nice if we could enter the Google Books id for a work into a dedicated parameter, say

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To track and fix. I would be OK with a list too. As said the cases should be checked manually. --

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Is that deliberate? Can the behaviour be changed, so that the order is preserved in a round-trip?

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This also affects links into sections within a page where, unlike Knowledge, Wikisouce often uses

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Well, the comment was about human editors. With machine editors such as autocorrection routines,

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because such a change is merely cosmetic. Cosmetic-only changes by robot are prohibited. See

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can be removed. Are there not cases where a second, supplementary isbn would be appropriate?

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append the ISO 639 language code to the property's key to make each key language specific and

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so potentially we have a problem that to access a section on Wikisource an ASCII single quote

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I think that there is a slightly better way to do this and will pursue that idea a bit later.

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The documentation is to show this lowercase, hyphenated version as the one for "normal use".

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Thanks for the snippet, but actually I don't think it does what is required. The input to

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the error message. Fix those templates and then remove support for positional parameters.

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and there is a working potential replacement in a sandbox that is linked there. Thanks, —

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and paste it into article space and click Show preview (don't save) you should see this:

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fails on trying to link to that section, but does link to the one immediately before it.

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I'm going to go with a "treat Google-ID" like ASIN. It's an identifier of last resort.

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key/value pair. There is no concatenation when the author name is contained wholly in

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HO-hum it seems that is unlikely to be the line as ' is an ordinary ASCII single quote

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Real life examples of this condition please? Is it 'broken' on other browsers? What

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parameter. See Example 2 on the template's documentation page. Have you tried it? –

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title has leading quote mark (not an issue but proof that this form isn't broken):

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as one of its properties. I suspect that this property is set this way to support

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The sandbox version of the first "Crowning Mercy" example now has properly kerning.

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character wraps individually. That result is not surprising to me given that the

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concerns? I am happy to show you the refactoring I envisage if you are open to it.

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Good catch. Because of an oversight on the part of the programmer. The function

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The disentanglement was a code change and the creation of 180-ish categories in

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If you wish to start a new discussion or revive an old one, please do so on the

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parameter rendering in an unrelated template. It does work as intended if the

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As a next step, I would like to "interlock" the two, so that the appearance of

1238:] -- restore link to full text, as existing DOI/PMID link to paywalled sources. 1118:(in Serbian, Hebrew, Old English, Spanish, French, and Delaware).</cite: --> 6044: 5474: 4176: 4035: 3996: 2765: 2633: 2601: 1296:

OK thanks for that background and analysis of this link. I will self-revert.

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Please link to an example article when raising questions like this. Thanks. –

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is used, also - albeit sorted by last name. I've added some more analysis to

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draw citation data from wikidata. This is no different than putting data on

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would be needed in the section header even though the rest of the text uses

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are aliases of each other, there can be no mass change by robot to convert

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the 'canon' is the documentation page for each template which derives from

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The change to Module:Citation/CS1/sandbox that added the sorting was done

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Again for Wikidata you clearly do not understand how it is being used in

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notes, above, it would be useful for this template to have a parameter,

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or ends. Hanging quote marks could make the citation easier to misread.

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If I replace the double quotes with their percent encoding equivalents (

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The purpose of the code snippet was to show how one might use the cs1|2

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in a maintenance category. Editors sometimes put redundant ISBNs in the

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the link works and takes me to the proper place in the wikisource text.

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in cs1|2 templates. If there is a bot doing this, it must be stopped.

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I didn't realize that fixing this by non-wrapping is so controversial.

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links to a copyvio, because some preprint servers can issue DOIs). −

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What is the first version number of Zotero to support this feature?

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would allow a separate link to be displayed using the same logic as

762:"1911 Encyclopædia Britannica/Great Rebellion#The "Crowning Mercy"" 743:"1911 Encyclopædia Britannica/Great Rebellion#The "Crowning Mercy"" 664:{{cite EB1911|short=x|wstitle=Great Rebellion#The "Crowning Mercy"}} 5769:{{cite book |title=Title |isbn=123456789X |id={{ISBN|123456789X}}}} 4172: 563:

s:1911 Encyclopædia Britannica/Great Rebellion#The "Crowning_Mercy"

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qqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqq

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qqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqq

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Addendum: also, native fonts only, Windows native font renderer.

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and appears to have been done for the convenience of the editor.

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has an 'OL' prefix. Because this situation is reminiscent of

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https://scholar.google.com/scholar?cluster=17269205842348980774

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Anyway, assuming we can make this work, here is my assessment:

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I have made an interim change to the live module that permits:

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Perhaps a clearer request: it may be useful to track usage of

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cannot be changed without also changing the rendering of the

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The OP omitted that the above citation uses the experimental

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many Wikidata items are not linked to any Knowledge article.

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shall do nothing because there is no 'label' for that link.

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Cite journal requires <code class="db-Y3MxLWNvZGU": -->

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My concerns also. And I concur with Headbomb's comment. ~

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I can see the point of separate rendering for things like

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I'm not attacking you, i was making a general statement. —

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what is otherwise separate words in the English language.

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The bots doing the conversion are catching ISBN usage in

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to me, and (c) a fix for the issue, if possible. Thanks!

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Identify the best forum/fora where a RfC should be raised

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Before I raise a formal RfC, could you please help me:

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My reply was to the OP. The OP also said "apparently".

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by itself, as in the second example immediately above.

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Part of URL is prepended to title. Possible regex bug?

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has never seen these keys previously while processing

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Categorization for multiple languages in para language

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The problem with wikilinked quoted title text is that

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value = value:gsub ('

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of my first template example but not at the beginning

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Is it necessarily 'wrong' for cs1|2 templates to use

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to remove the code for rendering. If you copy this:

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subpages Too much potential for things to go wrong.

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I'm trying to mark the 2nd reference in the article

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The module concatenates the value assigned to 1434:which is the centralized parameter documentation. 710:In the second example, because there is a label, 266:(link to previous discussion, September 2014). – 6371: 6328: 6285: 6237: 6194: 6151: 6043:Not the same problem because cs1|2 does not use 2293:, it causes the template to select the value in 1978:sorts the metadata. When the cite does not use 1958:which gets its parameter values from WikiData. 233:Thank you for this. It is a good application of 5730:template does, is done by cs1|2 when you write 4694:works, and not just to link to them). Just use 3544:where is the extra space? There is one at the 3521:From there it is a simple matter of using what 714:does insert the space to separate quote marks: 4842:tests, and should not be used as a reference. 4433:(around the first character of the quote) and 3714:I added a citation to an article just now, in 1199:I am finding myself in a little edit war with 1156:Category:CS1 maint: English language specified 692:Alien abduction survivor: 'They've got Elvis!' 382:so presumably the conversion is elsewhere. -- 292:seems to be moribund, I decided to post here. 4394:to my example above (between the dot and the 2229:Use of dead-url for non-archived {{cite web}} 986:Kerning in this live version is still broken. 8: 6275:title has leading and trailing quote marks: 6141:title has leading and trailing quote marks: 4619:at the same time; Wikidata has just created 3858:lns 3110-3116. set(Quote) is used to format 4749:Amodio, David M; Hamilton, Holly K (2012). 2240:as a dead link. I can't find an archive on 1209:Added free to read links in citations with 491:Bouillet, Marie-Nicolas; Chassang, Alexis. 3551:the cs1|2 categories shall not be used by 3427: 1203:, who added a "hdl" parameter to a ref in 364:What is the thinking behind this line? -- 3930:Very hard to reproduce because it depends 1891:, which maintains the original ordering. 651:First things first: the reason that your 5744:. You can, but probably shouldn't, use 2947:local function language_parameter (lang) 848: 775: 716: 611:"Great Rebellion#Campaign of Worcester" 156: 6105: 6101: 5611:No, that would be counterproductive. -- 4458:I saw the hanging quotes, but I don't. 1115:<cite class="db-Y2l0YXRpb24gYg": --> 861:|encyclopedia=A well known encyclopedia 671:"Great Rebellion#The "Crowning Mercy"" 352:The reason for this substitution is in 6389: 6378: 6346: 6335: 6303: 6292: 6255: 6244: 6212: 6201: 6169: 6158: 6083: 6072: 5853: 5809: 5797: 5786: 5756: 5745: 5731: 5699: 5678: 5470: 5387: 5258: 4804: 4800: 4793: 4699: 4695: 4616: 4589: 4564: 4560: 4532: 4528: 4524: 4519: 4515: 4059: 3965:the class "citation". That class has 3929: 3890: 3863: 3859: 3781:Monotype releases New Media Core Fonts 3680:2A02:C7D:DA0A:DB00:D104:5E1E:4FA4:87D7 3602:2A02:C7D:DA0A:DB00:2D9B:C031:27B7:C1C1 3600:, and reuse it in both cases? Thanks. 3499: 3486:2A02:C7D:DA0A:DB00:B87F:E46F:7AF2:16AC 3466:, it can be either special-cased in a 3372:, anywhere. But that's another story.) 3332:2A02:C7D:DA0A:DB00:7D59:CF97:3A02:EA20 3058: 3042: 3029:2A02:C7D:DA0A:DB00:5518:37F7:4E4C:B1FF 2869: 2855:2A02:C7D:DA0A:DB00:6C22:2CCB:28CB:25A2 2589: 2581: 2573: 2502: 2498: 2490: 2472: 2468: 2306: 2302: 2298: 2294: 2282: 2191: 2187: 2179: 2160: 2152: 2144: 2136: 2116: 2016:As noted above, the issue occurs when 1983: 1979: 1967: 1829: 1811: 1649: 1454: 1450: 1446: 1442: 1438: 1416: 1327: 1319: 1233: 1215:. The specific handle added here was 1208: 1085: 1065: 1026: 691: 587:"Great Rebellion#The "CrowningMercy"" 151: 143: 44:Do not edit the contents of this page. 5905:Bug when title ends with single quote 5677:Can you show where a bot is changing 3640:Category:CS1 foreign language sources 1432:Template:Citation Style documentation 1150:CS1 maint: English language specified 790:|encyclopedia=Encyclopædia Britannica 729:|encyclopedia=Encyclopædia Britannica 422:The bug you found is in the function 7: 6412:Shea, Christopher (April 19, 2013). 6102:<code class="db-Y3MxLWNvZGU": --> 5961:Shea, Christopher (April 19, 2013). 5918:Shea, Christopher (April 19, 2013). 5525:Zotero now has a Wikidata translator 3718:. As you can see if you look at the 3598:wrap_msg ('language', language_name) 3508:Module:Sandbox/trappist the monk/bob 3270:{{#invoke:Bob|lang_render|{{{1}}} }} 2819: 1568:I have just tried an experiment, at 1318:For clarification, OAbot still uses 1179:. The discussion is in Archive 8. – 5219:Some of you may be interested in a 4344: 3678:and just bind the wording/styling. 3116:'Module:Citation/CS1/Configuration' 1441:(c. 2006). Because the parameters 4527:or a separate link like we do for 3579:Ah OK, I guess we could still use 3541:Answering your individual points: 1950:The original cite was produced by 1818:: CS1 maint: unflagged free DOI ( 1656:: CS1 maint: unflagged free DOI ( 1564:Order of authors in COinS metadata 24: 5868:and cs1|2 call a single, common, 4600:and reduce the editing clutter. — 4510:Add parameter for Google Books id 2874:Module:Citation/CS1/Configuration 2497:finds less than 700 instances of 1986:all author-names are assigned to 1406:It was I who reverted your edits. 945:" be available in production? -- 6107:|journal=</code: --> 5462:The Plays of William Shakespeare 5287: 2999:"wrap_msg ('language', {{{1}}})" 2576:(or functional equivalent) (see 2406: 1324:https://tools.wmflabs.org/oabot/ 1247:are people using hdl to violate 1072:receives one of two key values: 622: 598: 29: 6318:title has trailing quote mark: 6184:title has trailing quote mark: 5488:Indeed. So can we now do this? 5388:" will be useful independently" 4967:not exposed by any public API ; 4173:unicode line breaking algorithm 3844:Module edit request: set(Quote) 2879:). It is used at line 1465 of 1003:Thanks for the improvement. -- 573:This explains why a link using 284:single quote for an ASCII quote 6361:title has leading quote mark: 5808:templatestyles stripmarker in 5459:And then there are cases like 2935:<<< Sorry, I misread! 2792:Consistent language style for 2028:User:Pigsonthewing/Zotero-test 1849:rft.au=Tassell%2C+James+L.+Van 1687:rft.au=Tassell%2C+James+L.+Van 1570:User:Pigsonthewing/Zotero-test 1258:that is being used to violate 290:Module talk:Citation/CS1/COinS 1: 6421:Chronicle of Higher Education 5970:Chronicle of Higher Education 5925:Chronicle of Higher Education 5001:. Using a Wikidata item with 2743:ISBNs that do not compromise 1154:Just wonder what happened to 850:Cite encyclopedia comparison 777:Cite encyclopedia comparison 718:Cite encyclopedia comparison 5350:proper citation over there). 4371:And yet user markup (either 2440:New tracking category needed 1806:10.1371/JOURNAL.PONE.0010676 1644:10.1371/JOURNAL.PONE.0010676 122:In its present incarnation, 5295:I think it's a great idea. 3309:Template talk:Link language 2945:One comment I have is that 2885:wrap_msg ('language', name) 1845:rft.au=Carpenter%2C+Kent+E. 1732:) 03:21, 13 June 2017 (UC) 1671:rft.au=Carpenter%2C+Kent+E. 1415:. Note that the RFC says: 1228:My removal was reverted in 360:'(s?)</span: --> 6475: 6055:occurs later) interferes: 5800:value: invalid character ( 5307:We should most definitely 4390:Are you sure? I've added 3789:Template:Cite magazine#URL 3597: 3529:already does to get this: 2297:when linking the value in 2268:I've tweaked your heading. 1424:Answering your questions: 342:Does not work because the 18:Help talk:Citation Style 1 6131:19:54, 29 June 2017 (UTC) 6039:19:09, 29 June 2017 (UTC) 6021:16:23, 29 June 2017 (UTC) 6012:me with your responses.) 5757:|isbn={{ISBN|123456789X}} 5529:Citation management tool 5455:23:35, 12 June 2017 (UTC) 5429:22:53, 12 June 2017 (UTC) 5415:09:24, 12 June 2017 (UTC) 5380:20:09, 11 June 2017 (UTC) 5366:14:13, 10 June 2017 (UTC) 5345:13:51, 10 June 2017 (UTC) 5249:Parameter for Wikidata ID 4953:12:16, 29 June 2017 (UTC) 4777:13:55, 14 June 2017 (UTC) 4671:20:57, 11 June 2017 (UTC) 4615:It might be worth adding 4609:12:10, 29 June 2017 (UTC) 4482:22:14, 28 June 2017 (UTC) 4468:22:09, 28 June 2017 (UTC) 4453:13:59, 28 June 2017 (UTC) 4419:13:51, 28 June 2017 (UTC) 4386:13:18, 28 June 2017 (UTC) 4367:08:38, 28 June 2017 (UTC) 4193:06:35, 28 June 2017 (UTC) 4166:05:29, 28 June 2017 (UTC) 4125:00:09, 28 June 2017 (UTC) 4052:06:01, 28 June 2017 (UTC) 4030:18:58, 27 June 2017 (UTC) 4013:18:45, 27 June 2017 (UTC) 3990:15:34, 27 June 2017 (UTC) 3925:13:55, 27 June 2017 (UTC) 3906:03:14, 27 June 2017 (UTC) 3884:00:55, 27 June 2017 (UTC) 3836:15:09, 26 June 2017 (UTC) 3821:15:00, 26 June 2017 (UTC) 3804:14:47, 26 June 2017 (UTC) 3740:14:08, 26 June 2017 (UTC) 3688:14:49, 23 June 2017 (UTC) 3663:10:10, 23 June 2017 (UTC) 3610:07:02, 22 June 2017 (UTC) 3575:22:38, 21 June 2017 (UTC) 3494:20:00, 21 June 2017 (UTC) 3340:21:28, 20 June 2017 (UTC) 3325:07:03, 20 June 2017 (UTC) 3298:10:31, 20 June 2017 (UTC) 3037:06:56, 20 June 2017 (UTC) 2921:22:29, 19 June 2017 (UTC) 2872:is defined at line 84 in 2863:21:41, 19 June 2017 (UTC) 2774:05:21, 23 June 2017 (UTC) 2755:they just have different 2734:00:49, 23 June 2017 (UTC) 2694:00:30, 23 June 2017 (UTC) 2681:From the FAQ at isbn.org 2660:20:49, 22 June 2017 (UTC) 2642:05:21, 23 June 2017 (UTC) 2627:20:45, 22 June 2017 (UTC) 2610:15:53, 22 June 2017 (UTC) 2559:12:48, 22 June 2017 (UTC) 2542:12:04, 22 June 2017 (UTC) 2525:11:49, 22 June 2017 (UTC) 2485:06:47, 22 June 2017 (UTC) 2454:06:22, 22 June 2017 (UTC) 2435:07:40, 22 June 2017 (UTC) 2399:01:38, 20 June 2017 (UTC) 2381:01:12, 20 June 2017 (UTC) 2358:00:40, 20 June 2017 (UTC) 2322:10:39, 20 June 2017 (UTC) 2263:10:29, 20 June 2017 (UTC) 2219:10:33, 14 June 2017 (UTC) 2099:Module:Citation/CS1/COinS 2071:16:38, 13 June 2017 (UTC) 2012:10:17, 13 June 2017 (UTC) 1976:Module:Citation/CS1/COinS 1944:09:08, 13 June 2017 (UTC) 1912:09:12, 13 June 2017 (UTC) 1883:03:47, 13 June 2017 (UTC) 1787:which renders like this: 1773:04:18, 13 June 2017 (UTC) 1759:04:08, 13 June 2017 (UTC) 1745:03:35, 13 June 2017 (UTC) 1720:02:35, 13 June 2017 (UTC) 1625:which renders like this: 1599:23:39, 12 June 2017 (UTC) 1550:17:52, 13 June 2017 (UTC) 1532:00:54, 13 June 2017 (UTC) 1509:18:20, 12 June 2017 (UTC) 1494:02:53, 12 June 2017 (UTC) 1479:14:46, 11 June 2017 (UTC) 1401:13:48, 11 June 2017 (UTC) 1350:NO ONE uses "access-date" 976:A well known encyclopedia 899:A well known encyclopedia 887: 880:A well known encyclopedia 868: 854: 820: 797: 781: 755: 736: 722: 455:A well known encyclopedia 399:Module:Citation/CS1/COinS 354:Module:Citation/CS1/COinS 335:A well known encyclopedia 196: 176: 162: 130:is a meta-template using 6455:13:44, 9 July 2017 (UTC) 5995:I.e., title displays as 5952:|url-access=subscription 5893:23:29, 8 July 2017 (UTC) 5849:12:40, 7 July 2017 (UTC) 5746:|id=|{{ISBN|123456789X}} 5712:12:50, 7 July 2017 (UTC) 5694:12:42, 7 July 2017 (UTC) 5673:12:35, 7 July 2017 (UTC) 5659:12:27, 7 July 2017 (UTC) 5638:11:44, 7 July 2017 (UTC) 5624:11:29, 7 July 2017 (UTC) 5606:11:21, 7 July 2017 (UTC) 5585:12:32, 6 July 2017 (UTC) 5570:11:03, 6 July 2017 (UTC) 5547:WikiCite event in Vienna 5509:11:52, 1 July 2017 (UTC) 5483:11:36, 1 July 2017 (UTC) 5303:02:34, 4 June 2017 (UTC) 5282:20:22, 27 May 2017 (UTC) 5244:11:48, 1 July 2017 (UTC) 5197:15:41, 9 June 2017 (UTC) 5154:06:28, 9 June 2017 (UTC) 5096:00:55, 9 June 2017 (UTC) 5057:20:05, 8 June 2017 (UTC) 5015:, I am not going to use 4933:17:17, 8 June 2017 (UTC) 4894:14:57, 8 June 2017 (UTC) 4852:14:30, 8 June 2017 (UTC) 4821:09:13, 8 June 2017 (UTC) 4647:23:10, 5 June 2017 (UTC) 4621:Google Scholar paper ID 4577:17:50, 5 June 2017 (UTC) 4544:16:16, 5 June 2017 (UTC) 4198: 3891:markup-based workarounds 3396: 3250: 3086: 2968: 1865:rft.au=Smith%2C+Michael 1835: 1669: 1340:07:57, 8 June 2017 (UTC) 1306:03:55, 8 June 2017 (UTC) 1292:03:22, 8 June 2017 (UTC) 1276:03:15, 8 June 2017 (UTC) 1189:04:57, 6 June 2017 (UTC) 1170:04:30, 6 June 2017 (UTC) 1158:? 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