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Julie Talma

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382: 172: 217:, wife of the orchestra musician Louis-Sébastien Olympe Petit. They started an affair, and in 1794 Charlotte divorced her husband. During the 1790s Talma ran through his wife's fortune, but it was not until 1801 that François-Joseph and Julie Talma divorced by mutual consent. François-Joseph married Charlotte Vanhove the next year. 446:
FĂ©lix de SĂ©gur, Julie's last surviving son, died on 10 February 1805. Her grief destroyed her health, and by the middle of March she was clearly dying. Benjamin Constant was devastated by her approaching death, and went so far as to speculate on whether some part of a person might live on after their
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Louise-Julie Carreau was born on 8 January 1756. Her mother was Marie Careau. Her father, Francois Pioch de PĂ©zenas, did not recognise her until much later. Julie's mother abandoned her when she was very young. Pierre Gueullette de Maucroix, the king's adviser-in-Council of the Indies, rescued her
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a few days before giving birth to twin sons. Her husband was unfaithful and ruined her. They separated and eventually divorced. Julie Talma was charming, intelligent, strong-willed, rational and a firm republican. She held an influential salon before and during the revolution and at the start of
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was published in 1829, long after he wrote it. He said that Julie Talma differed from other women because she had a realistic view of the relations between the sexes, and "understood and admitted that women who have given themselves and men who have gained what they wanted are in a precisely
31: 209:. After several months the vicar of Notre-Dame-de-Lorette agreed to marry them as long as Talma registered as a bourgeois of Paris rather than an actor. They married on 19 April 1791. François-Michel Talma, a dentist who was the actor's brother, was the witness. 399:(1760–97). As an extremely intelligent woman and a committed republican Julie appreciated Constant's outlook on the world. In the early summer of 1796 they often saw each other and became close friends, although probably they were never physical lovers. 451:
throughout her life, and when dying refused to receive a priest for her last rites. She died on 5 May 1805. She is reported to have said, "One should be able to start life over again. During the first performance, one doesn't know what one's doing."
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On 30 April, twelve days after the ceremony, Julie gave birth to twin sons. The next day the infants were baptised Henri-Castor and Charles-Pollux. Another child was born, named Tell, who died on 31 May 1794. François-Joseph Talma met the actress
416:(9 November 1799) Constant was elected to the Tribunate, which advised the First Consul (Napoleon). With Julie Talma's support, Constant took a bold public stance of opposing dictatorship and abuses of individual freedom. Around the end of 1799 205:. Juie became pregnant and the couple decided to marry. They had difficulty finding a priest who would perform the ceremony since Talma insisted on giving his profession as an actor, a sinful occupation, and therefore could not receive 403:
wrote of their relationship, "With gently sagacity she steered their affair into the calm lagoon of a devoted and outspoken friendship. She became the firmest as well as the most penetrating friend that Constant ever had."
436:. In mid-November 1800 Julie Talma introduced Anna Lindsay to Constant. They began an affair, but as Constant later told Julie, he loved and desired Anna but did not want her to sacrifice herself for him. 245:
was smitten by a terrible fever of love I had sparked in him, without the least intention of doing so." Mirabeau died at Julie Talma's house on the Rue de la Chaussée d’Antin on 2 April 1791.
137: 316:, accompanied by women of the stage. The comic mimic Fusil gave a performance. Amélie-Julie Candeille was singing at the piano when the doors burst open. The meeting was invaded by 105:. She had three sons by three different fathers. She used the gifts from her protectors to make a small fortune in real estate speculation. She married the well-known tragic actor 136:
Julie Carreau became the mistress of François-Antoine de Flandre de Brunville, with whom she had a son, Alexis-Pierre-Louis (1777). She was then the mistress of the viscount
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from the streets. He taught her to read and write, taught her polite manners and after two years enrolled her in the Opera's ballet corps. As a dancer she performed in
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After Talma had ruined Julie he separated from her in 1795, leaving her to raise the twins. Julie had to rent her house on the Rue Chantereine. The lease was taken by
260: 292:, the chemist, who is said to have begged that the axe might be stayed while he completed some experiments, and was told that the Republic had no lack of chemists." 439:
On 15 July 1804 Napoleon put on an elaborate ceremony with glittering costumes at the Church of the Invalides in which he personally awarded the first civilian
349:. She kept a small court of admirers, including Benjamin Constant. Her salon on the Rue Matignon was frequented by prominent republicans and ideologues such as 285: 234: 140:, who established her in a private mansion and with whom she had another son, Alexandre-FĂ©lix SĂ©gur (1781). SĂ©gur, who loved her, thought she would be the 1089:
Lafont, Anne (April–June 2005), "Ă€ la Recherche d'une iconographie " Incroyable " et " Merveilleuse " : Les Panneaux DĂ©coratifs sous le Directoire",
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of the 18th century. Finally she was the mistress of a M. Saint-LĂ©ger, who gave her a third son, Jules. All of her sons would die during her lifetime.
395:(1767–1830) at the Rue Matignon, and they began a long exchange of letters. Constant and Julie seem to have met in August 1795, perhaps introduced by 341:
would visit Josephine there every evening. Three years later on 11 Germinal year VI (31 March 1798) Julie sold the house to Napoleon. Under the
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in this house. Her private room was decorated with an anonymous frieze that represented the Arts, the Muses, Apollo, Venus and Cupid.
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in 1789, causing a split in the Comédie-Française. He took several leading democratic actors with him, including Monvel (
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and Julie Talma, continued to play an essential role in the society of Paris after the revolution. Thomas Okey wrote,
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met her and said she clearly had more wit than other French women and was very patriotic. Julie had great respect for
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Blanc, Olivier (April–June 2006), "Cercles Politiques et " Salons " du Début de la Révolution (1789-1793)",
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Deguise, Pierre (January–March 1967), "Benjamin Constant, Madame Talma, et la "Lettre sur Julie"",
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Julie Talma lived apart from her husband in a small townhouse she shared with her close friend
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Julie Carreau used the money from her protectors in real estate speculation in the
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and Napoleon Bonaparte, who settled there before their wedding. The 26 year old
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De MĂ©lanie Ă  Lamiel: ou, D'un amour d'Henri Beyle au roman de Stendahal
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The meetings organized by Madame de Lameth, Madame de Montmorin and
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proclaimed that citizen Marat had discovered a major conspiracy.
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Julie Talma was famed for her literary and artistic circle. Here
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A meeting at Julie Talma's home on 16 October 1792 had General
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death. Julie Talma maintained the rationalist views of the
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Napoleon's rise to power, and became a close friend of
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members of the Committee of General Security led by
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Index


Paris Opera
courtesan
French Revolution
François-Joseph Talma
Benjamin Constant
Jean-Philippe Rameau
Castor et Pollux
Joseph Alexandre de SĂ©gur
Ninon de l'Enclos
Chaussée d'Antin
Alexandre-Théodore Brongniart
Claude Nicolas Ledoux
salon

François-Joseph Talma
François-Joseph Talma
Comédie-Française
French Revolution
Jacques Marie Boutet
Rose Vestris
Amélie-Julie Candeille
communion
Charlotte Vanhove
Alexander von Humboldt
Mirabeau
Aspasia
Chamfort
Madame de Staël
Lucile Duplessis

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