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Assistant Curator for the Museums Department from 1969 to 1973. He became the Deputy Director at the Museums Department from 1974 to 31 December 1982, promoted to Director at the Museums Department from 1 January 1983 to 5 August 1983.
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in May 1996, in recognition of his contributions, together with other commendable honours. Throughout his career, he has earned the following honours and fellowships:
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1590:"Free trade a boon to our economy"
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895:United Nations General Assembly
877:, Pehin Lim signed the updated
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937:Pehin Orang Kaya Pekerma Dewa
825:Western Washington University
739:Charcoal production in Brunei
612:Legislative Council of Brunei
46:Pehin Orang Kaya Pekerma Dewa
2761:Alumni of Swansea University
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879:Memorandum of Understanding
806:ASEAN Eminent Persons Group
776:Ministry of Foreign Affairs
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662:in 1969, and received a
630:Early life and education
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1959:current members (2022–)
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897:. He later traveled to
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1900:Pengiran Shariffuddin
1875:Royal Brunei Airlines
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1005:First Class (SPMB) –
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245:Royal Brunei Airlines
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2305:Elinda C.A. Mohammad
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2285:Romaizah Mohd Salleh
2105:Pengiran Zety Sufina
2019:Romaizah Mohd Salleh
2014:Abdul Manaf Metussin
804:and a member of the
664:Master of Philosophy
168:Abdul Rahman Ibrahim
2491:Hisham Mohd Hanifah
2029:Juanda Abdul Rashid
1858:Business positions
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953:Museums Association
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883:ASEAN member states
823:On 1 May 2010, the
818:Legislative Council
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780:Permanent Secretary
726:Shariffuddin, P. M.
703:Lim, J. S. (1977).
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644:Bachelor of Science
226:Legislative Council
16:Bruneian politician
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2496:Amin Liew Abdullah
2389:Al-Muhtadee Billah
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2024:Amin Liew Abdullah
1988:Al-Muhtadee Billah
1835:Office established
1828:Political offices
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924:Awards and honours
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