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84: 74: 53: 22: 232:. The latter likely reflects local usage (somewhere in the US?); however, also in all English-language discussions I've had where étale morphisms have been discussed in the UK and the US, people have quite invariably used essentially the French pronunciation. Thus, I'd stick to the French version. 169:
Are the five defintions really equivalent without any hypothesis? J. Milne seems to imply in his lecture notes on etale cohomology (available from his website) on page 13 that the definitions involving the morphism to be locally of finite presentation are weaker than the definition flat+unramified.
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I changed the condition "flat+unramified" to "flat+G-unramified". The difference is that "unramified" requires locally of finite type whereas "G-unramified" requires locally of finite presentation. Milne works under the general hypothesis of all schemes being locally Noetherian where the notions
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An anonymous user recently tried to correct the definition of standard étale. However, the definition formerly in the article and the definition given by the anonymous user are equivalent. I wanted to record the equivalence of the two for anyone else who came along:
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Y they are equivalent: flat + unramified (which is by definition locally of finite type) is equivalent to locally of finite presentation and formally etale (i.e. the functor Hom_X(-, Y) does only see the topological structure of -).
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doesn't provide a definition for polynomials over arbitrary rings. If there's a standard definition, I'm unaware of it, and the best abstract definition I know of is for
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is what you get by leaving out a hypersurface; you do this to remove all the bad points (where the morphism isn't étale). Localizing at
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since (a) I don't know what a monic polynomial in several variables is and (b) I don't believe such a condition is necessary.
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I removed the reference to monic polynomials in the section concening the localization of k/<f_1,...,f_n: -->
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Then please link it as French rather than English, and make it obvious to the reader that it isn't English.
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Y étale implies dim X = dim Y. Juste take Y = Spec (DVR) and X = generic point. I will
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Thanks. Using that information I was able to locate this derivative on Knowledge. ᛭
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This is a derivation. It's canonical: The relative Kahler differentials
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produces the same effect; in other words, the hypersurface defined by
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It's what you get by formally applying the power rule and linearity:
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Could somebody add an IPA pronunciation of the term étale?
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coincide, but in general one should make the distinction.
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