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Please note FABRICATION and the man DIED before the IPN (Polish) Official investigation 2009. It is wrong and absurd to put someones comments that died before the official investigation that said it was still ongoing. The author who wrote this is trying to change history that it was an accident.
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Despite AL523 being heavy and possibly overloaded, this was not the contributing cause of the crash. The pilot had competently taken off and cleared the runway. The sole reason for the aircraft’s fall to earth was simply a cotton rag used by Polish saboteur
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FURTHERMORE it NOW has been verified by
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HOWEVER expert WW2 Air Crash Investigator- Garth Barnard and Canadian Chris Wroblewski have produced the "proffessionally published" book called "Sabotage!" published by Grub Street Publications in England release date Nov. 2023. They state in their professional promotional blurb
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