Talk:2.0 (film)/Archive 1

1610:" can't cross even 100 cr, which sounds quite funny from a person who keeps saying that the films are not dubbed in Hindi. Maybe you are jeaulous of Tamils because their films are bigger than Bollywood films, although they don't work in Hindi, because a dubbing in Hindi is suffecient enough to collect more money in the Hindi market than Bollywood films. Has the cultural pressure become so hard hitting that you have to desperately start to hijack the cultural identity of Kollywood films? The problem here is that Hindi is for us Dravidians like Arabic.–06:56, 3 June 2016 (UTC) 2641: 2046:

all the movies that has nothing to do with Telugu". And I kindly request all the Telugu ethnic dogs to please stay away from this edit page and a Tamil editor to involve in this matter. As the entire scene is under their control, they can add lines like 'produced in Tollywood' or craps like that, but, if anything like that is added to the article that has the original credit to Tamil, these guys cry to do so by asking for references. I kindly advise those Telugu editors to put some brains on this issue. Biased editing spoils the article.

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first stated (per source) that it was the most expensive Asian film. Which was an issue because some people didn't want to include India as part of Asia. Followed by another movie being made with a higher budget, causing this one to be the 2nd most expensive Asian film, but still the most expensive Indian film. All is well. Fast forward to the other day (May 11), with yet another film announcing another new record - NutellaCambridge makes an edit leaving a note and an edit summary saying that we should consider rewording the sentence.

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of course for commercial purposes like the Endhiran prequel it will be dubbed in Hindi and Telugu and released at the same time. If you include Hindi here, then a film like Lord of the rings, which was dubbed in German, Spanish and hundreds of other languages would have to be included in the language box. Nonsense! There are some language fanatics on wikipedia and Indian newspapers, who can't distuingish between original language and dubbings. But a seasoned wikipedian should be able to differentiate correctly. --

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you've got a beef with the "single source author" go take it up with them. I'm sure they'd love to hear your opinions for why you think their facts are fabricated. In the meantime, if you can find a reliable source that denies emphatically that the film is being produced simultaneously in multiple languages, by all means, bring it here, but until then, your personal POV has no place being reflected in the article, and you're just using up oxygen harping about it.

759:"Anti-Tamil sentiment". He's talking about an ethnic identity, not just the way thoughts come out of people's mouths and are written on paper. The debate about Baahubali involved editors who were adamant that the Telugu industry should get credit for all their hard work. Those people were not talking about languages, they're talking about ethnic and cultural identity. That's why I brought up the Spike Lee film, because that it is a non-Indian equivalent. 3026:"Asia". Which was easily fixed because other movies came out to take the top spot. But then, about a week ago, when one of the socks said that yet another film took the top spot again and suggested that the entire thing be reworded, I reworded it in a way that would not need changed when new movies broke the record again. And then, for some reason the sock didn't like it - which resulted in a back and forth and him trying to round up the troops. 659:) A wise approach would be to open a discussion about this in a wider arena so we have something a little more concrete to point to going forward, if the community decides (and they very well might) that the perceived ethnic industry is the trigger for how to order language and other facts, then great. So just to make it clear (and so that you have at least some satisfaction from this discussion), if you open a general discussion about this at 31: 3278: 2593: 589:"Tamil, Telugu and Hindi" - No one is not okay with this order. And Cyphoidbomb, as for your first point about the guideline, I don't see any guideline either saying that languages in the infobox need to be in the alphabetical order. If there is indeed such a guideline, I'm guessing several hundreds of film pages need to be edited to follow that guideline, from 531:- If you can point to a guideline anywhere at that suggests we organize content in articles based on the director's ethnicity, producer's ethnicity, or the ethnicity of a film industry, then I might be inclined to agree. However just saying that aloud sounds odd to me. This is something that perhaps you should bring up in a more formal discussion arena be it 577:- Other than both you editors (who by the way, seemingly, don't particularly care about the order), most people, including myself, would be okay with the order mentioned in those sources—Tamil, Telugu and Hindi. Which is why all those edits happened in the first place. I don't think anyone is "not okay" with that order. So, it's logical and in a way, 3338: 1423:. As for your references, they're sufficient for establishing that the film will be produced in Tamil. That, however, is not in dispute. By presenting these references though, you are arguing from the negative, suggesting that since "Hindi" does not appear in these sources, that the film will not be made in Hindi. That constitutes an 1876:

tamil film to be shot in Japanese or Chinese". Please go through the source carefully where, it was never mentioned that, the movie will be made in six languages. It may get dubbed and released. For a film being shot in 400 crores, releasing in several languages by dubbing is always likely. I hereby add the sources for my stand.

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words than Hindi words or Telugu words, but that is obviously not what you are saying. The obvious subtext of your argument is that this film is the property of the Tamil ethnic film industry, which is kind of a strange concept to film articles in general, since most films are organized by nation, not by ethnic this-or-that.

971:, Baahubali is listed as a Telugu–Tamil film not because of where the producers are located, but because the film was simultaneously filmed in the languages of Telugu and Tamil, and because reliable sources described it as a Telugu–Tamil film. There's no provision for including "the industry in which it is from" at 3313:"My Dear Kuttichathan" is the first indian movie to be shot in 3D. This was released in 1984. The movie was shot in film with stereoscopic camera . 3D conversion technology was not in place that time. It was shot with stereoscopic 3D camera in film. Even there is a wiki page is available on this topic. 1238:. The only thing in immediate dispute as far as I can tell is whether or not both Tamil and Hindi belong in the article. In one corner, we have one reference that is generally considered reliable, and in the other corner, a guy who thinks TOI is garbage. I don't see how you could possibly prevail here. 3025:

But, I am going to let you guys come together with a consensus based on your findings, as well as WP guidelines and inflation issues. Because I honestly don't care one way or the other what the end result is. I was involved a few months ago when someone took offense to India being included as part of

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I agree with what NutellaCambridge is saying, I took at a look at the sources and there is incredibly strong evidence against this claim, countless reliable websites and corroborates with the rest of Knowledge as well. I think Kellymoat is perhaps attached to one source and may have to accept that is

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to the various people who were whining on the talk page and via edit warring about how their ethnic film industry should get proper "credit". "Never thought Tamils will stoop to this level of taking credit for someone else film" "People please give due credit to Telugu and stop being cheap and taking

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it's just another example of cheap journalism in India, with a little difference in wording that they actually shot the film in 3 languages. Since the source website is considered reliable by wikipedia for whatever reason, there is actually no way to remove it as per my understanding, since minority

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My sources cite quotes from actors themselves and they say it's a Tamil film, not a double language film, not even mention Hindi. And your claim that all these papers and the actor himself argue from silence is just another retarded way of yours to game the system. I hope you don't mind if I say that

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It's funny that you call me a desruptive editor, just because I know the subject better. Baahubali isn't a "bilingual" film. It was shot in both Telugu and Tamil. Bilingual would mean, that both languages would have been used in one single film. But in 2.0 the film is only shot in Tamil language, but

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References proving that it's a Tamil-Hindi film? Really? Just relax... almost all references already scattered throughout the article mention this. The origin of the producers (in this case Lyca which is a Sri Lankan Tamil telecommunications company based in the UK) come first, then following that is

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Yep. Made a mistake. It happens. Fixed it. Now you want to address the rest of my points? You're glossing past Kumar's statement made weeks after filming had begun that it was "too early" to say if it will be bilingual. Maybe he said that because he knew it was being filmed in three languages? Hmm...

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according to the culprit's contribution history, for reasons unknown to me, and although it turns out the arguing users were sockpuppets, I'm concerned that this entire matter will be dropped as a result. Once I have finished some assignments real life, I'll take a look at the claim of 2.0 being the

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Enthiran was shot in Hindi because of Aishwarya Rai factor. 2.0 will be shot in Hindi because of Akshay Kumar factor. Generally dubbed films won't fetch much money when compared to direct films. Generally, the budget of a movie will be made depending on the market value of the actors and the highest

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It's just 3rd grade reporting by a cheap newspaper. Reliable newspapers give notice to readers that the film is untitled yet. But these TOI retards do everything to please the expectations of their dumb readers. If I had a say only "The Hindu" newspaper would be allowed on Indian wikipedia articles.

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How do you figure that it's "primarily" a Tamil-language production if it's being shot in three different languages? The reason why it should not be changed without consensus, is because this has been the subject of dozens of silent reversions over numerous months and arbitrarily changing it has the

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The movie page, eventhough there are no reliable sources whether it releases in Telugu, has the language included in the infobox. But, even after I add reliable sources which claim that, the movie will be released in six languages, it is being removed. A comment adding, "it is highly unlikely for a

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Please do not use the word "bilingual" or "multilingual". That just implies that the film speaks in more than one language. The lead should only highlight the industry in which it is from. I've clearly indicated this in the hidden message in the article edit box. Editors with an account should stop

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I'm in acceptance with the fact that it's a film shot in multiple languages. I was about to change the order and put Tamil first followed by the others before I saw the comment requesting not to. Why is that? Considering it's primarily a Tamil-language production, shouldn't it be the first language

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One of my complaints about WP is the insistence on people including "this is the top" this or "this is the highest" that - when you know damn well that these things are going to change frequently. Of course, that is an issue for a different forum than here. So, as to the current issue, the article

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as the costliest Asian film till date..." We have no idea who did the labelling. Regardless, we're not required to regurgitate a claim verbatim, especially when there is a legitimate reason to doubt the absolute-ness of the claim, and especially when Indian film journalism often has these problems

2803:. I'm of the opinion that the superlative should either be removed entirely, or should be changed to "most expensive film in India", which I don't think is being disputed. I'd also note that that phrasing used by The Hindu doesn't make it sound like they vetted the claim. "Actor Rajinikanth’s 2.0, 2045:

I am pretty sure you are biased. We never took credit for someone else's films. Rather we claimed that, the movie was made in Tamil, the same which goes on for the Telugu version of 2.0. "People please do give some credit to Tamil and stop being cheap by adding Telugu as primary language in almost

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The people of Hindi belt go crazy about south indian content. But South Indians mostly reject any Bollywood film. Overall South Indian films are much much bigger than Bollywood films, which reflects in budget and culture of the movies. Bollywood is rapidly going downhill in all of India. Even some

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Thanks for the compliment. I'm usually not a person, who attacks people, but I recently read some newspaper articles, which wrote that the wikipedia project is under threat due to excessive admin misusings. Don't take it personally when I tell you that you should be kicked. Your abusive commentary

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Save the nonsense for your conspiracy blog. The content is sourced and the push to remove all but one language from a film that has been described more than once as being bi-and-trilingual is far more indicative of some sort of ethnic bias than editors who are representing what the sources say. If

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order of cinema industry instead of just language, these guys try to defend the unutraditional order for some dubious reason. We can assume that there is an Anti-Tamil sentiment involved here like in many articles where Hindiwallas get jeaulous of the growing popularity of South Indian languages.--

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Your argument is still predicated on the belief that the film is "primarily a Tamil-language production". That is unsubstantiated if the film is being shot in three languages simultaneously. How could it be more of one language than the other two? Unless you're arguing that the film has more Tamil

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Most of the time the media gets confused between dubbed versions and 'made versions'. 'Vishwaroopam' and 'Dasavatharam' too were reported by a group of online media portals to be 'MADE' in Telugu, but they ended up having the usual dubbed versions. The recent IBtimes source is an example. When the

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where an actor involved in the film says it's premature to call it a bilingual film, we hold off on including "bilingual" in the article or "Tamil–Hindi" until we have a clearer picture of how the film is actually going to be produced. What we do know is that it will be shot in Tamil. What is not

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Who cares what newspapers falsely report when the film is NOT in Hindi? If Endhiran is not dubbed but shot in Hindi why are there only dubbed versions available? Are you seriously saying that Endhiran was shot in Hindi? Or are you just sticking to the retarded understanding of some retarded Hindi

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Not only NewIndianExpress but also EconomicTimes and IndiaToday mention Enthiran as bilingual film. The sources are mentioned above. In the initial years, nobody cared about the language and hence Enthiran was maintained as Tamil movie in Knowledge even though it is a bilingual movie in Tamil and

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also says "Editors typically game the system to make a point, to further an edit war, or to enforce a specific non-neutral point of view." If a reliable source says the film is bilingual, and a single editor comes by to change it to Tamil alone, that could very well be indicative of a non-neutral

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describes the second SpongeBob SquarePants film as "Spongebob 2" (in quotes, I might add) in May 2014. The film was later released as "The SpongeBob Movie: Sponge Out of Water‎". Bad reporting? Or does it just reflect the information available at the time? Variety didn't mention that the film was

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I think Editor 213.47.76.227 is confused with the word bilingual in Knowledge jargon. Bilingual doesn't mean that the film should have both the languages in one single film. If he assumes like that, then tons of Knowledge pages have to be modified to suit to his view. Here in Knowledge, Bilingual

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Well, if you lived in Tamil Nadu or watched Tamil films, it's quite obvious. As the director is Tamil, works in the Tamil industry, the producer is Tamil, etc. But since Knowledge requires citations, I'm not sure how I can prove that it's a Tamil production. Either way, I can counter question the

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I reworded the sentence. And instead of making yet another changeable fact (1st becomes 2nd, 2nd becomes 3rd, etc etc), I took it back to the original sourced content "the most expensive Asian film." But I added "at the time of filming", so that we would not need to update its ranking every time

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indicates that Asura, a Chinese film, is being produced at a cost of USD$ 100 million. So participants need to figure out how to present this information, since there is a huge disparity. While we could say that the film is the costliest in India, neither source says this explicitly, so it would

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As mentioned earlier: It's quite obvious that some Indian journalists are just randomly pulling out unqualified statements. Endhiran was released with a Hindi dubbing along with the Tamil original, which nobody in the world disputes, and this "journalist" calls it then a bilingual film. What the

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film!" kind of stuff that (unfortunately) does often occur here, but it's bound to be sorted out one way or another as more info is released. There were numerous editors who shat themselves when Knowledge called Baahubali a bilingual film, but that's what the sources said and that's what we went

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In fact the prequel of this movie Enthiran/Robot itself is a bilingual movie in Tamil and Hindi. Then how come the sequel movie will be only in one language. Knowledge page for Enthiran is showing it as Tamil movie. That needs to be modified as Tamil-Hindi. See the following reliable sources for

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Hi Nirinsanity. I support your view. These editors are part of the problem. The inclusion of Hindi and Telugu is based on a single source author, which is very likely fake, but they didn't mind keeping Hindi and Telugu there. Same goes with cinema industry. Although all articles are displayed in

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Possibly because, although India does not legally have a national language - as the Gujarat court ruled "the majority of people in India have accepted Hindi as a national language". There have been multiple edits and reverts re-ordering these languages, which, as warned above, "has the aroma of

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at Knowledge does not prefer the inclusion of INRConvert in infoboxes. Concerns raised: 1) There's no clear reason to arbitrarily convert to US dollars, as opposed to, say, Chinese Yuan 2) The default INRConvert template creates problems with inflation. 3) Even if we adjust for inflation in the

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This movie, which is produced by a production company based in Chennai, can have a statement of brief regarding the production under the Production title. This is just an information that, the film is being produced in Kollywood. My Claim stands justified since the same alternate version of the

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The source you've provided also says, "Akshay claims, 'It is too early to say if this film will be a bilingual. The release is one year away. Work has begun and I will start shooting within a month.'" This would tend to sort the other editor's position that the language status is up in the air.

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As to the rest of the conversation --- China is part of Asia. But, per a couple of the sources regarding 2.0 losing its "top" ranking (some of which I removed for being irrelevant to 2.0), they don't include Chinese film budgets and ticket sales because they are often inflated to create hype.

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I think most of those sources reported that the film is being produced in Hindi and Telugu just because that is what is written on Knowledge. I know that is quite a blatant claim to make, but you never know. Anyway, for now, I guess we'll include all three languages and see how it pans out. -

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to say that it is not a matter of ethnicity, but of language, seems a little naive to me. I'm quite familiar with the arguments that spring up in Indian film articles, and ethnic identity is absolutely the basis of many of these disputes. Look at the IP's (nonsensical) comment above sugesting

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You're the one who took up the position of having some expertise in Knowledge policy. Don't bring up policies or guidelines if you don't want your misinterpretations to be countered. And again, please avoid the personal attacks. I'm sorry that you don't understand the point I made about your

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It's wonderful that you have such a deep insight into the director's mind, but that's irrelevant here, because we go with what the references say. If a film is made in one language but dubbed into another, that does not belong in the infobox or the lead sentence. If, however, the film is

2878:@Kellymoat,@CyphoidBomb the entire problem is that is was NOT the most expensive Asian film at the time of filming, as the Flowers of War and Red Cliff were released in 2008 with a higher budget; that is what I am trying to get at. 'most expensive Indian film would be much more suitable. 420:

proof of something that Kumar danced around in January? It's a moot point... That IBT source is unambiguous. As for your unsubstantiated statement "The TOI link is more reliable", I'm calling your bluff--show me the discussion at Knowledge where it was decided that Times of India is

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In fact, all the Rajnikanth movies will be dubbed and simultaneously released in Telugu language also, did the Knowledge page of 2.0 mention Telugu in the language list? It is not mentioned because Telugu version will be a dubbed version. But it is not the case with Hindi version.

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The fact that only the Toilet newspaper reported a Hindi film gave me hope that other wikipedians supported me instead of this dynamic troll IP, who insists on this fake source. I didn't know that one shitty source is enough to edit fundamental parts of a wiki article anyways.

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are situated in Asia meaning that the statement that the film is the most expensive in Asia is clearly false. I have also provided better references for this where NutellaCambridge has failed. I trust you will make the necessary edits before I am forced to take this further.

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logically fallacious argument, but that's your problem, not mine. You do not presently have consensus for your preferred version of the article, but since you seem to have some familiarity with Knowledge, you are no doubt already aware of what your options are at this point.

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isn't very relevant here as the film was shot only in one language. This isn't an issue of race, rather an issue of language. In India, every state speaks its own language, unlike most countries. There are several cinema industries in India you would know of, if you visited

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This conversation has gone off the rails and we're getting into some ridiculous "My ethnic film industry is better than your ethnic film industry" territory here, which is easily one of the lamest pissing matches you can be involved in. My recommendation is that based on

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So you believe that Kollywood flms which include Bollywood actors get automatically shot in Hindi, and the "evidence" of your claim is the high budget, because Bollywood actors have some sort of high msrket value? You are also saying that dustributor share of "Tamil only

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as far as I see the TOI ref is the only source, which calls this film a bilingual and that too with the titles "Robot 2" and "Endhiran 2". These titles were never confirmed and a product of TOI's imagination. It's just a bad source which I was talking about earlier to be

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was "the most expensive Asian film at the time of filming" is demonstrably false when there are Chinese films from 2008 and 2011 that were costlier. So, very kind of you to "let us come together with a consensus based on findings", but this was a needless stonewalling.

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mentioned by Editor 213.47.76.227 itself says that the original Robot (2010) was a bilingual film. So I would ask the admin to change the language of Enthiran to be Tamil and Hindi. Even my earlier mentioned old sources also say that Enthiran is a bilingual movie.

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like ~~~~. Pings are used to notify other editors that you are talking to them. As to your post, I believe early reports indicated that the film was being shot in three languages. What indications do you have that the film is only being dubbed in Telugu and Hindi?

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The first lines of this page are just wrong, it is not the most expensive film in Asia but is the most expensive Indian film (until 2018) to be made, as there are 3 entire films with a greater budget, two chinese and one us/korean, as NutellaCambridge pointed out

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distributor shares one film got in a particular language. If the distributor share value of Tamil only version films(excluding dubbed versions) doesn't even cross Rs. 100 crores, how one will put a budget of Rs. 350 crores for making a Tamil language film.

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I don't need your certificate of correctness. I could cite 100 wikipedia policies that counter you. Admins like you shouldn't be allowed on wikipedia, but yeah, I don't know "how I could possibly prevail here". I will have the last laugh once the film comes

3113:". Which is one of the reasons I said that I would let the "posse" figure it out. But they haven't shown like they said they would (unless they are still looking into it). Certainly, with so many sources claiming 2.0 to be the most expensive ASIAN film 3000:"most expensive film in Asia at the time of filming". I've started a new sub-header, 'cause this entire page is an absolute mess. To all those interested in partaking in discussion, remember to indent your comments appropriately and sign. Thank you. — 1279:

have been filmed in both Tamil and Hindi. And since I don't particularly care whether this is a Tamil-Hindi film or not, the triumphant laughter you are eager to send my way in the future, will fall on apathetic ears, and I'll just point you back to

1139:, if the film really was shot in Hindi. But it's not shot in Hindi. Shankar has never and never will direct one film in two languages like other directors. He would rather shoot a straight Hindi film, than doing same film in different languages.-- 1158:

in two different languages like Baahubali was, then we'd indicate that. The chief problem here so far is that you (IP 21.47.76.227) have unilaterally decided that the film is only going to be a Tamil-language film, when that is not supported by

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The point is wikipedia is not a newspaper, but people here treat it like a newspaper, use newspaper jargon and culture. Pretty stupid if you ask me. But the case here is even more stupid, because TOI is the only newspaper who reported this

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Thanks for being supportive and I actually understand your opposing when I think of the issue from an outsider POV. But what I meant was that you're contradicting yourself when you're opposing the order I'm proposing but didn't oppose the

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We've already been through this. Read the discussions above, please. The bilingual claim was originally made months ago based on that December 2015 source you provided. The claim was disputed by another editor. Another user pointed out a

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interview actually tells you is that it's not even 100% sure if the film gets dubbed in Hindi and released due to whatever reasons. BTW, yes, this newspaper is also regarded as a "reliable" source by the wikipedia community. Retarded. --

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I think the claim of 2.0 being "the most expensive film in Asia at the time of filming" would be legitimately disputable if we could get clear sourcing for the Chinese films The Flowers of War and Red Cliff. The only source I see at

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Why so quickly without discussion? It's 2.0. "O" is merely another way of saying zero. Please also see official material released by the producers such as the jukebox / making video on YouTube - where the makers themselves write

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There is nothing more to discuss here if you are claiming that Kollywood films are bigger than Bollywood films. In fact distributor shares of Telugu only films are much bigger than Tamil only films and forget about Hindi films.

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into google, you will get plenty of results. Some are older and say that 2.0 is the top, and some still have the 350 budget, not the updated 450. While others are newer and say things like "move over 2.0, there is a new most

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shooting of '2.0' commenced , it was reported that the film was being SHOT in Tamil and Hindi only! Almost two schedules of filming being over, how can one support a claim that a third version is being simultaneously filmed?

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statement was applied in Baahubali page. You can find their version of statement under the Production title in Baahubali page. And I think there are adequate sources already present in the infobox to justify my statement.

1030:, with an argument that because the source was using a working title for the film, the language info is likely not accurate. Who knows. It's speculative. Granted, it's possible that this is just some typical ethnic "it's 2229:

to extrapolate a specific date. For all we know the film could be released in advance of Diwali, which falls on a Wednesday, or they could delay release to the Friday after Diwali. Got specific sources? Also, do we need

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I think you need better sources of information than a Google search, because there are several much older films with a higher budget in Asia (refer to the novel above). If you can still not see this, then God help us.

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2.0 is being released this year (2017) after 2008 after these films, which, after applying common sense, would not make it the most expensive film in Asia even at the time of filming so this bold statement MUST be

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Unless there is a source that supports a very specific 18 October 2017 release date, we should be vague and present something in the "mid-October 2017" range. Though sources say that the film will be released on

2017:." That statement seems like original research as I don't see any references at the end. Either way, I think it's completely pointless and unnecessary to add "Kollywood" or any crap like that to this article. - 539:

so editors don't have to keep having discussions about this very thing. (I'd probably go with the latter forum--there are more people willing to participate.) That said, the content was originally added

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logical fallacy. Further, "Tamil" is ambiguous in some of these references. Does it refer to the language, or does it refer to the industry? Rhetorical questions. None of them address the Hindi issue.

3373: 1163:. Your argument "the source didn't even report the film title correctly" is flimsy, extraordinarily common to use shorthand or a working title if those details haven't been released or finalized yet. 84:

There are no references for the movie being a bilingual film as in Raavan and Ravanan. Please add proper citations which prove the point without doubt, since Shankar has never done a bilingual film.--

381://. Now YOU seem to be the one who is confused. TOI and IBTimes are different. TOI is TIMES OF INDIA, a leading Indian daily, while IBTimes is International Business Times. The TOI link is more 1275:. If a fact can be verified, i.e. with a reliable source, then it can be reasonably added to the article. What cannot be verified at present, is your assertion that the film will be proven to 2215: 1443:

no sane guy on this planet would think you act here in good faith other than the aforementioned accused by newspapers community. You are not only gaming the system, but also doing horrendous

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is irrelevant, as we're not talking about an opinion or viewpoint. If a source says that a film is going to be shot in Tamil and Hindi, that's a statement of fact. It may prove to not be an

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subtle ethnic-warring". This film is not even being released until next year, but this article already has over 1000 edits - the language issue is particularly fraught - please see the

1339:. Because that woould mean you accept my view regarding the language topic. A blind man could see that undue weight is the problem here. A quick google search reveals interesting infos: 1752:. That should say something about his credibility and IBTimes' as well. I'll be removing Hindi and Telugu from the infobox and change the wording in the article wherever necessary. - 1734:

views are to be presented accurately. Now this whole nonsense got its way into this article.. until the film's release. Then we can remove the source and blacklist the journalist. --

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We may indeed have to accept that not all sources are reliable, which is where the source that claim that it was the most expensive film in Asia at the time of filming comes from.

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But, since then, a new movie is claiming to be more expensive than this one, which makes this movie no longer the most expensive in Asia, but is still the most expensive in India.

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fact, but it's still a statement of fact, not an opinion. What would be problematic, is letting one editor decide that a reliable source cannot be used because it contradicts his

2679:, I think we should probably be discussing the flare-up of the "most expensive film in Asia" edit dispute here. Can someone please summarise what the current issue is, please? 835:. It's a shame that these issues rarely get brought up by people who edit Indian film articles. Indian films shouldn't be isolated from the rest of the film article community. 343:

says unambiguously that the film "is being shot simultaneously in Tamil, Telugu and Hindi." So I'm not sure what you expect is going to happen. We're going to ignore the two

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according to some of the sources the sock posted, most people don't count Chinese films because they are too hard to verify because they are often inflated to cause a hype

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The Telugu version is a dubbed one and there are no source, as of now, about the hindi version. Please have a glimpse at the below links and update appropriately. 1.

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Just wondering, but would it make sense to put the budget into USD instead of INR as with many other Asian/Indian films have given it, could give easier comparison.

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entertainment journalists about what is a "bilingual" film? I've slso seen news reports which called Puli a "trilingual film", although it was only shot in Tamil:

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and participate in it in a meaningful way, I'll gladly yield on the issue in favor of the ordering in the IBT source. I don't speak for Arjayay, however. Regards,

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Hai. Why can't you do the same edit in Bahubali:The beginning and Bahubali:the Conclusion page which has the same unsourced sentence under the production title?

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2.0 is a Tamil film which is dubbed and the dubbed version is simultaneously to be released. So I think we must remove Telugu and Hindi from it's language *

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Hindi. Not only the above three sources, almost all the national newspapers at the time of release of Enthiran movie mentioned it as as bilingual movie.

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reference where Kumar said "It is too early to say if this film will be a bilingual." We refrained from including content about the language status, then

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is irrelevant as well, because there is no bad-faith coming out of me. A reliable source says X, and X was being maintained in the article. Contrarily,

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thread above. If you can come up with a clear statement from the film-makers, I would support that, but until then the article needs some stability. -

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Some portions being reshot differently is not the same as reshooting the whole movie. Even Endhiran had Hindi letters for the magazines Chitti read. --

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aroma of subtle ethnic-warring, which you might be aware is a problem at Knowledge, and I'm sure you would agree, would be completely unacceptable.

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Thank you for your cooperation and I say again to cross check these bold claims before they are made (hence Knowledge's deteriorating reputation)

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You are right, I have seen nearly all of Rajnikanth's and Shankar's press interviews regarding this film and the all say it as 2.o too. Moving.

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current displayed order as well and proclaim that it is arbitrary. On what basis is Hindi displayed at the top, with Tamil and Telugu below it?

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I think it would be wise for us to wait till the film is released and hen decide about the order of languages even though I condsider that the

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There was no ambiguity in this discussion that could have been described as "for some reason". The reason was very clear: The claims that the

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glaringly obvious is whether or not it will be shot in Hindi or whether the film will be written to contain both Tamil and Hindi dialogue.

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when editors were adamant to exclude Tamil from appearing next to Baahubali even though it was simultaneously shot in two languages. (It

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http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/entertainment/hindi/bollywood/news/Akshay-Kumar-plays-the-villain-in-Robot-2/articleshow/50203162.cms

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http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/entertainment/hindi/bollywood/news/Akshay-Kumar-plays-the-villain-in-Robot-2/articleshow/50203162.cms

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Some guy changed page to claim again it was the most expensive Asian film so naturally I challenged it again but keeps getting reverted

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I believe the Asian "dispute" was quickly rectified and accepted as ok. Not only was "Asian" in the quoted source, but geographically,

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And that brings us here to today. So, like I said, I have no opinion other than the geography lesson at the start (india is in asia).

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http://www.newindianexpress.com/entertainment/hindi/Impressed-by-Story-of-2.0-Akshay-to-Make-Tamil-Debut/2016/01/14/article3226541.ece

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http://www.newindianexpress.com/entertainment/hindi/Impressed-by-Story-of-2.0-Akshay-to-Make-Tamil-Debut/2016/01/14/article3226541.ece

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It is a dubbed version. Please refrain from conveying wrong information because a lot of online portals refer Knowledge for info.

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http://indianexpress.com/article/entertainment/bollywood/aamir-khan-reveals-why-rajinikanth-didnt-dub-for-dangal-in-tamil-4430566/

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http://www.msn.com/en-in/entertainment/southcinema/rajinikanths-20-budget-goes-up-to-a-whopping-rs-400-crore/ar-AAl2hMH?li=AAggbRN

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Seems premature and counter-intuitive to me as well, as there is no context for why we should consider it "oh". Their official

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http://www.dnaindia.com/entertainment/report-why-akshay-kumar-is-the-best-choice-for-rajinikanth-s-20-sequel-of-robot-2156782

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It is better to consider multiple sources than just one. I have updated with all three languages - Tamil, Hindi and Telugu.

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It's quite obvious that you are trolling hard, but in the end 2.0 will be called a pure Tamil film despite all your efforts.

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I'm not sure that it's wise to refer to 5+ year-old articles to support content found here. There is, however, this source

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reliable than IBT. I'll wait. But if we're just talking about some anecdotal experience you have, sorry, ain't interested.

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with superlatives and declarations and inflated financial figures and so forth. Kelly, do you have any thoughts on this?

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Well, the same IBTimes writer has now written that the film is being shot in Tamil and dubbed in Hindi and Telugu in the

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http://www.hindustantimes.com/bollywood/akshay-kumar-glad-to-be-the-villain-in-robot-2/story-7cSiM5lwYPbNJYuXCANmpO.html

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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/film/9447846/The-Flowers-of-War-the-Chinese-film-that-is-sparking-a-revolution.html

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The editor who moved it seems like he made a very rash and unconsidered decision. How do we take steps to revert it?

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http://www.foreignercn.com/index.php?option=com_content&id=736:red-cliff&catid=64:china-movies&Itemid=131

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http://www.thehindu.com/news/cities/chennai/2.0-is-set-to-go-where-no-Indian-film-has-gone-before/article16738922.ece

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It says Tamil-Hindi in the opening paragraph, and lists Tamil and Hindi in the infobox, but there are no references

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Please remove both languages from the articles. The film is dubbed into these languages. Original = Tamil only. --

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I'm saying South Indian films are earning more money with dubbed Hindi in Hindi market than most Bollywood films:

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shows that you are trying to prove that Tamil films are bigger films in this world after English language films.

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Since there was a lack of follow through to take this issue to a wider forum for greater scrutiny, I have done so

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point of view being enforced. Ethnic warring is (sadly) very common here, and the same sort of thing happened at

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require a note or something to explain. Regardless, the claim that it is the costliest film in Asia is dubious.

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http://articles.economictimes.indiatimes.com/2010-08-10/news/27627378_1_first-film-special-effects-yuen-woo-ping

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for example it would be a "Telugu-Tamil" film, since the producers are based in Andhra Pradesh. Simple logic.

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Is there a reason why you signed your post twice and then pinged yourself? Please just sign posts with four

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http://indianexpress.com/article/entertainment/bollywood/baahubalis-hindi-version-crosses-rs-100-crore-mark/

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https://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=List_of_most_expensive_non-English-language_films&action=history

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was shot to feature popular Telugu songs (instead of MGR, Sivaji, Kamal songs) for it's Telugu version.

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very literally". Western films that are slated for Christmas releases don't necessarily get released

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http://www.glamsham.com/movies/news/16/mar/akshay-kumar-set-to-rock-in-tamil-nadu-with-robot-20.asp#

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IBT articles because you personally think they might be confused with dubbed versions? Not logical.

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says that the 2008 film Red Cliff cost about $ 80 million then both films would be higher than the

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http://www.indiaglitz.com/rajinikanth-amy-jackson-20-will-have-only-one-song-tamil-news-153911.html

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so either they're wrong or you're wrong. If this is still not clear to anyone, all hope is lost.

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made a good-faith edit to challenge the claim that 2.0 is the most expensive film in Asia. Though

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http://www.deccanchronicle.com/entertainment/tollywood/120817/20-sold-out-for-a-record-price.html

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http://www.deccanchronicle.com/150928/entertainment-kollywood/article/puli-makers-release-3d-game

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the other industry it is being simultaneously made in, hence "Tamil-Hindi". In the case of

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The Telugu version is dubbed. Only the Tamil and Hindi versions are being originally made.

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I was referencing old resources for Enthiran because it was released at that time only.

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clearly states 350 Crore - you have not provided any source whatsoever for your claim -

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http://indiatoday.intoday.in/story/endhiran-the-costliest-film-in-india/1/108599.html

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blindly reverting this without clear explanation as to why you're reverting. Thanks.

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Here is the TOI reference. The article was published when the filming had commenced.

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http://www.statista.com/statistics/260159/most-expensive-film-productions-in-china/

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http://variety.com/2007/film/features/mega-film-red-cliff-makes-history-1117972838/

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I don't remember if it was here, your talk page, or my talk page, where I said "

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template, the result is bloated and needlessly converts to US Dollars. (See #1)

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What jargon are you referring to? The word "bilingual" doesn't appear in either

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If you wish to start a new discussion or revive an old one, please do so on the

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is 4 December 2016, and states "the film's budget has risen to "400 Crore" -

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that indicates the film is going to be bilingual. An IP editor disputes that

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http://variety.com/2016/film/asia/china-finance-for-d-war-sequel-1201734811/

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I have no complaints if it is removed. I have no ethnic dogs in this fight.

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Marathi movies make more money than Bollywood films. Truth hurts, isn't it?–

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and appears to be organized Tamil, Telugu, Hindi, based on the language in

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reflect your mindset in itself. I don't believe, that you have never read

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whomever submitted the specific date seems to be taking the Diwali date

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before. In what way is the current order superior? As for your example,

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http://nanonews.org/akshay-kumar-to-begin-shooting-robot-2-next-month/--

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There is no point in making claims, such as you have, without citing

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verifying this. I see the references above, but these are quite old.

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The map of Asia here clearly shows what is universally accepted as

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OK - the reference I cited above was 16 October 2016, whereas

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Maybe. Maybe not. TOI is generally considered reliable by the

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does post a gross of $ 90 million for Flowers of War. And if

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Thus far, the references have been quoted in non-US figures.

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mentioned in the infobox and in other places in the article?

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the credit for the work that has nothing to do with Tamil".

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to change it to that. Essentially, what I'm saying is this;

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SOURCES indicating that the Telugu and Hindi versions are

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Also a particular scene preluding the "Athiradee" song in

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for this one piece of information? (See Release section)

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and pretended bad knowledge about wikipedia policies to

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order would be a better one as the film's predecessor -

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was not reliable and wrong, in the face of the truth.

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Part two: Dispute about "most expensive film in Asia"

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I forgot to update my comments above with a link to

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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-china-16638897

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