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Remember that 9/11 conspiracy is not by one single person/party. There are several parties who have made that alegation. There are loads and loads of documentaries on it too. If you still didn't realise, I was the one who included that news into this article, which will very well explain that I am
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page for a while now, with everynow and then some editor or other wanting to rename it to Bengaluru. There seems to be a consensus in that city article on keeping it to Bangalore. So for the sake of consistency on Knowledge, I would assume its best for us to call it Bangalore. BTW great work by
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Great, these are wonderful information on the explosives used and would be wise to have a section on that and expand further as more forensics are revealed. I do respect your suspicion about the grades of explosives found, but to add that to the conspiracy section would make it
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not against the possibility of conspiracy nor do I follow the bandwaggon of such theories. For what it is worth, it is stated there and thats where it ends. Hope you realise that you are barking up the wrong tree in this issue. Once again, its not as important as to have a
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about merging, although the plots are "thought" to be similar, the investigation is by two different agencies, in two different states. so its ok if some of the matter is repeated separately. i feel merging both would just make the article more chaotic.
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statement that you added in the conspiracy section, if not I or someone else will have to remove it. May I also request you to sign your messages with four tides like this ~~~~, which is also mandatory while posting messages on talk pages. Ciao
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It seems fair enough if it's consensus there. The original comment on this page said discussion first. However, ont he Bangalore page it says officially bengaluru, well i've just questioned that citation. if not then Bangalore seems best.
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So far both the bombings in Ahmedabad and Bangalore are considered to have been part of the same series in the investigation, given the similarities. Wouldn't it be a good idea to merge both these articles, or else the sections on
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that one allegation is not from citizen but a high level member of the opposition party.one quote is enough to warrant to add those links.dont censor manchurian candidate 04:47, 30 July 2008 (UTC)
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Thanks, I added the info to the conspiracy section, although the article doesn't spell out a conspiracy theory, but that the investigations need to be looked into another angle,
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finally it has been added.Thanks very human and for the above user you are wrong,this is a neutral encyclopedia and not one sided. manchurian candidate 04:17, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
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Can we get rid of this section? Its just the usual templated responses to terrorist attacks. Everyone knows what they will say and it just takes up huge amounts of place. --
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I have removed the Greater Kashmir sources as its biased non reliable self published source. Also one fact was solely supported by it, so I have removed it too.
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Most people are familiar with Bangalore, but have never heard of Bengaluru. I think this is reasonable justification for keeping it the way it is (Bangalore).
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would be too redundant. It would be quite a task to merge them, but would be pretty easy later to expand them without repeating details in both pages. Cheers
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in the criticism section all anti freedom remarks are written. We need to write the effects of these measures on the liberty of the citizen.
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unfortunately, or fortunately, it depends, in the interests of consistency this is the used across wikipedia pages for events like this.
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Ok just for sympathy i removed the 9\11 link but the other link stays as it points to some inconsistencies which adds fuel to the fire.
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Indians love to read about Who said what. The reactions of Indian politicians are quite colourful... Blame all around etc. Let it stay.
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editors on this article. I think I would stop following news updates and just come over here and go through the history. :D
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There is one alegation of conspiracy, but with the investigations going on there is no need to have conspiracy theory as
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to delete these "External links modified" talk page sections if they want to de-clutter talk pages, but see the
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Ok i removed the 9\11 link but some things dont add up like military grade explosives being found in the blast
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Yeah you are right but i just wanted to consult you.its upto you and other members, 12:34, 1 August 2008 (UTC)
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We could use yesterday's Bangalore page as a model to clean this one up. It's rather poor at the moment.
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as I mentioned earlier, since no mainstream media is reporting this as such. We are not here to add our
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by having a small link is making you uncomfortable.Its NPOV if you dont allow me to post those links.
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why are you removing the conspiracy link?. when we have a article about a conspiracy,dont vandalize.
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that a hospital was attacked by a suicide bomber. However there's no mention of it in the article. --
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Sorry, wikipedia is an encyclopedia. If you have references that state so, feel free to add. Thanks
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and take part in it if you strongly feel that Bangalore should be called Bengaluru. Cheers
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section or here, but still it gives a good story where Sushma's comments are made. Cheers
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I think these two points should be added. manchurian candidate 07:14, 1 August 2008 (UTC)
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please dont change it before consensus reached. we can discuss here the name issue...
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It never ends plz add this.US national escapes India even after a look out notice.
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Your arguement is certainly coherent, and I'm inclined to go with it. But see this
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that even Muslims were targetted in the blasts. Not sure if it fits into the
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ps- That's what I do, 2 days later and the wiki article has got it all ;)
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Informative, well-sourced and well-balanced. Kudos to those involved. --
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cctv camers at border were not working and hard drives being blanked.
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then why dont you remove conspiracy links from 9\11,7\7,3\11 pages.
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