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Thanks for the work, Rbb l181. However, the line-ups are still incorrect. The starting line-up listed by FIFA in the PDF and on MatchCast are only FIFA's hunch before kick-off, based on the rosters handed in by each team. If you look under each 15 minute segment in the MatchCast, you have were
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You miss the point: if a shot is not on target and is deflected in, it is an own goal. This is not a 'controversy' as video evidence is plastered all over the net, so there is no need to refer to FIFA's official report. Poulsen's header was going wide – by a mile – and only went in BECAUSE of
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Do you have some problems with Japan's formation ? The pictures files are still completly false. Will you stop kidding this team ? Okubo plays LW, Matsui RW, and Honda CF, did you understand that ???? Here you can find good formations.
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Which formation is wrong? Or are both of them wrong? If the NED v DEN is right, should the other one be similar? If not, could you please send to my e-mail a sketch of the actual formation so I can change it?
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