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pretty accurate and can make a correct prediction on the chances of the shows that could be renewed or cancelled. While I don't agree with ADH's at times disruptive behavior, I have my own reasons for finding more reliable references. While both FC and Zap2it are at times both reliable and inconsistent, there are at times you have to correct information on which part of the sites and that's why I have been reverting those edits because Zap2it is more reliable for cancelled shows and FC is reliable on which date it airs future episodes.
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Is it possible to include a definition of what "Follow-up" means? At first glance I thought I meant that the Fall scheduled series was cancelled quickly and replaced by another, but there are shows like Madame
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