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Is there anything contentious or questionable in the infobox? I'll take a bit of exception to saying he "targeted" a school when he (apparently) just entered one, but that aside, it seems to fit with what sources agree he did. Also where, when and how. Nobody's rushed to add a "why", which is good;
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Sources do not make the connection. One is behind a paywall so I can't verify, the other, the BBC story, states simply "Later in 2016 a man attacked two police officers with machetes while shouting "Allahu Akbar" before being shot dead.". It doesn't specify which stabbing, and more importantly, it
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The article says he was released th emorning before, then the section he kills someone other than a cell mate the night before. There is a clear disconnect.
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