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Europe. Whether or not we call it a crisis, the outflow from SVB collapse has caused market correction globally and that's not OR or SYNTH as I have tried to explain. The word 'crisis' is perhaps inaccurate, inflammatory even. We do have a persistent correction (SPXBK and other indexes), liquidity issues and market jitters. I believe it's right to document that in this article, whatever we name it. It should have an overview which includes Europe and Asia. I hope we agree that now 'see 2023 global banking crisis' is redundant we need to do something. Cheers
2647:, which we consider to be unreliable in and of themselves, are a good basis for moving the name of a page. That being said, I think that what the move is doing here is probably better for the structure of the article; it would allow us to take First Republic and other regional banks and treat them in their own section, rather than simply being something of "impact". The article will take a bit of restructuring to get there, but I think it makes sense to make an article on the ongoing banking events in the United States to include non-failures. — 539: 518: 749: 728: 864: 1723:"a significant crisis of confidence in the bank's leadership" is what popped out at me, after "whether the now-collapsed bank took necessary steps to detect potential money laundering by its clients." The article lead includes only "systemic risk" for the closure, only two days after SVB went down, which in its typical use suggests contagion. Any connection is now unclear and it may be just coincidental timing, so I believe a mention in the lead is warranted 1453:. For example, De Santis: "“I mean, this bank, they’re so concerned with DEI and politics and all kinds of stuff. I think that really diverted from them focusing on their core mission.” Also: Donald Trump Jr. on Twitter: “SVB is what happens when you push a leftist/woke ideology and have that take precedent over common sense business practices. This won’t be the last failure of this nature so long as people are rewarded for pushing this bs.” -- 759: 377: 644: 623: 1243: 1133: 446: 355: 425: 654: 549: 317: 279: 241: 394: 3702:
banks also went long and have unrealized bond losses, I don't see reporting that it poses a major risk to them. SVB overdid it. In the case of Silvergate/Signature, they were heavy on crypto which was in bigtime turmoil. Credit Suisse had been a basketcase for many years and was a ripe acquisition target, and UBS pounced on the opportunity, brokered by the government.
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the situation might go contagious like 2008, which they've been on hair-trigger alert for ever since. But by my read, what happened with these banks were unrelated and simply a coincidence of timing. So I wonder if calling it a "global banking crisis" is appropriate, at least at this point. I've made
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There was a real danger of a global economic calamity in 2008, but I get a sense that the title and tone of this article might reflect some degree of exaggeration and undue panic. By my read, what happened to SVB was a poor management decision to go long on Treasuries to chase yield, and though other
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The "United States" is in the title more or less because the only banks that failed are within the United States. I'm not sure how we'd want to handle Credit Suisse if it were to fail. An article on the collapse of Credit Suisse would be almost certainly warranted if it genuinely fails/gets acquired,
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regulations used the same $ 250 billion cap to distinguish the very big banks from the not-so-big banks (though community banks, like Silvergate, were exempt from the rule altogether). I think waiting here until we get more reliable coverage or in-depth analysis by SMEs is going to be better for the
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As the article '2023 global banking crisis' is now deleted, we have separate articles on each of the three US banks and we have the CS acquisition article. In the deleted article was some detail about contagion - the word used by WP in the CS acquisition article, but contagion is not restricted to
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I also strongly object to including Credit Suisse as a key subject of this article; this is currently a focused article on the crisis in the United States. An article on the United States, and a second on the global events, would be a better way to handle Credit Suisse and the European contagion. —
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This is no longer merely a topic with a scope of a few US bank failures in about a week of time. Over the 16th and 17th (Thursday & Friday) many major media sources began to describe this as a "banking crises", and not just a few bank failures. The really huge flow of funds—both from a number
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That all being said, it's still a jump to go from reporting that explicitly says that there are no accusations of wrongdoing against the bank to saying that this was probably a significant factor in the bank's collapse. Investigations are bad, rattle investors, and may cause squeamish depositors to
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and the relaxation of bank regulations in 2018 played a role in these banks going under, in particular the "tailoring" under Powell of regulations for specific banks. For example, she says: "Banks like S.V.B. ‌— which had become the 16th largest bank in the country before regulators shut it down on
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is a nice article talking about the mechanics of why SVB failed and it has nothing to do with cryptocurrency or investments in tech start-ups. Please DYR as the current version doesn't really hit close to the reality of the issues. "Yellen described rising interest rates, which have been increased
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Briefly - what you call 'coincidence of timing' I would say is actually the market, hope you'll agree. Nothing concrete needs to happen for fear to affect the situation, events are not required to be related. Japanese bank stocks went into correction for example. I don't think that should be left
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The Swiss government/banking authorities violated the usual Swiss law today and wiped out the Credit Suisse equity holders as they forced the "merger"/shutdown of Credit Suisse. This is not some mere "acquisition" by UBS of an attractive banking property; or it would not have needed 100 billion of
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it went insolvent. The causes of Suisse's collapse (interest rates, withdrawals) are somewhat similar, though they also had problems with their investment arm for a while going back to 2018. If there are global banking repercussions, we should probably cover them somewhere, but I do not think that
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in the lead. If lots of sources go on and say that this is an important thing in the collapse, then sure, but right now the reporting looks like it's a bank run, causing it to sell off long-term bonds to meet withdrawal requests, and where the NY regulators lost confidence in the bank's ability to
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states: "The company had invested its deposits in low-interest rate bonds that it held on its books on a long-term 'hold-to-maturity' basis. That means that it did not have to mark-to-market those bonds until they were sold, leaving investors with a somewhat distorted view of its balance sheet. So
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Yes; ultimately the lack of insurance is part of what led to the bank runs—people did not want their money tied up in a bankruptcy proceeding. Something like the first paragraph of the Silvergate Bank subsection of "Bank collapses" seems like it would warrant adding to the SVB section. I'll admit
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the CEO and CFO may be sued for "concealing how rising interest rates would leave its Silicon Valley Bank unit 'particularly susceptible' to a bank run." It seems to me, a significant problem was the high amount of its deposit holdings that was uninsured. That probably led to a lot of withdrawals
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is its opinion section, so we've got another opinion piece here. I feel like we're going to have better reports on the financial causes of the collapses when news organizations (and academics) do deep investigative reporting. For what it's worth, the issue that killed SVB was liquidity more than
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It also seems to be a shortage of US dollars that are fueling the fear of the credit crunch. The central banks of Asia have been less aggressive with interest rate hikes and hence there is more liquidity available in various other currencies. India and numerous of other countries have also made
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Also discussion on traders factoring in fewer rate hikes. I'm unsure whether it needs a mention. I'm no economist but I wonder, notwithstanding the crypto collapse, whether this might have happened anyway. A decade of near zero etc - there have been many warnings about the impact of fast hikes.
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My reading of the Bloomberg source is that Signature hasn't been accused of wrongdoing in the probe, and that the investigation is still active. Even so, it looks like the probe is about whether the bank itself took steps to detect money laundering *by clients*; it's not clear at all from the
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on American banks, except for Credit Suisse which was experiencing trouble stemming from its US headquartered investment banking unit (First Boston) well before the US banking crisis flared up. If you were to plot the incidents on a graph then the Credit Suisse debacle would be viewed as the
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I feel like the article puts too much emphasis on the crypto exposure. SVB is mostly a startup-oriented bank, which while include crypto companies does not mean they invest in bitcoin. Same with Signature, though Silver Lake indeed is notorious for it. Still, SL is the smallest of the three
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article is an opinion piece or not, the quotes are likely accurate. However, it's not clear to me what special exemptions SVB got from the Fed that Warren is referring to or how that might have contributed to its failure. I would hesitate to rely entirely on the WSJ regarding whether their
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There was a failure of US banks. The crisis in confidence in bank shares contributed to a failure outside of US, therefore the crisis must surely be in the market ie global. I think it's either US bank failures or Global bank crisis. Sorry if that's pedantic, hope you see my point.
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were looking into it, but the SDNY does bring civil cases for financial crimes; does prosecutor refer only to criminal prosecutions?). I am also very aware that AML controls are regularly examined by internal and external auditors without getting law enforcement or regulatory bodies
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without prejudice to considering it later. I would rather not see Knowledge (XXG) become a driver of very serious events by way of naming them from the most sensational reports. Let journalists and commentators talk amongst themselves for now, then decide when the dust has settled.
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A bank fails when its regulator orders the seizure of its business, and it closes when it stops serving clients. Neither of these has happened to Silvergate. It has shut down some business lines but is continuing to conduct business in others as it moves toward liquidation.
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Agree. The question for me is whether it remains 'United States' - Credit Suisse rescued and potentially bought out by UBS, is quite big. While the article has rightly mentioned bets on future interest rates in US, the same is happening elsewhere - BoE mentioned by Reuters
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We've got... one original news article talking about the investigation into AML problems (the remainders are "per Bloomberg" or the like). I'm a bit skeptical that we need to immediately add it to the lead rather than waiting to see how additional reporting plays out. —
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out of the picture, but I agree there are differences between now and 2008. However that can be seen simply a matter of degree, it is a crisis for Credit Suisse as well as the US banks. I hope you saw the points made in the discussion about the title above. Cheers.
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The FT refers to a 'crisis in confidence' in bank shares. The CS article has been updated already with 'Collapse' it'll be gone by Monday. Let's discuss how we wrap this in. Market sentiment is the driver. It's not a direct financial link to any US failures.
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The spillover of the banking crisis also seems to be limited to the western world except for notable but not exceptional stock market changes. There have been numerous articles explaining the strength/stability of the banking systems in Asia especially in
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Over my years, both online and IRL, I have encountered individuals who seem to relish the prospect of a global economic apocalypse that takes us back to the Middle Ages. As Michael Caine said in some movie, "some men just want to watch the world burn."
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Bloomberg report that this was the cause (or a contributor in) the bank's collapse and seizure by the banking authorities of the State of New York. I've included it in the body for now, but I don't think it warrants mention in the lead at this time —
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Seems their annual report was published Tuesday - bad timing. But BNP Paribas and Societe Generale continue losses today - 12%, 16% over last five days. The Credit Suisse bailout is proving significant I would say, despite their ongoing problems.
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The Guardian says that it only briefly dipped by 30%. Saying it's down 30% would be misleading. Credit Suisse was trending on Twitter earlier today cuz of fears that it too could collapse. Dunno if it should be included unless something actually
2294:. ECB held unscheduled meeting today to discuss crisis. Banks stocks everywhere are sliding but yes, 'bank failures' for the moment are in US. Arguably CS has 'failed' because it had to be rescued - that's more than a 'liquidity issue'. 2271:, makes sense at this point. There are some news publications that are saying that the Fed (and/or ECB) are trying to avoid a banking crisis, but I think that the current title is more precise than either of the titles proposed above. — 2045: 2232:
To date, all of the bank failures, and the bank shut downs, have been in March 2023. However, with the turn of multiple news media sources referring to it as a "banking crises" on 16 March, the more appropriate move might be for the
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Seems to be a separate thing. From what I read, the bank in question is trying to fundraise to repair a reputational damage leading all the way back to 2019, and the article doesn’t mention anything about IR rises or the SVB crisis.
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by JP Morgan Chase). Something about these sorts of credit lines probably could be mentioned, though I'm not sure the extent we can attribute the Credit Suisse crunch to this; they've been in a bit of trouble for five years. —
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First Republic has been experiencing a bank run and has not failed, but so have a number of other banks. A key difference is that First Republic has effectively been rescued by other banks but it failed to help the situation.
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Friday ‌—‌ got relief from stringent requirements, basing their claim on the laughable assertion that banks like them weren’t actually 'big' ‌and therefore didn’t need strong oversight." For balance, there are some quotes in
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What the media say is situational: "Investors and customers pulled their money out of Credit Suisse over the past several days as turmoil swept the global banking industry following the collapse of two US lenders." (CNN)
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and Singapore... If there were a notable spillover of the banking crisis, it would probably be limited to the western world, and only recession may somewhat overspill into Taiwan/Japan/Korea (as it did with the Great
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I support this suggestion. Arguably, the collapse of Credit Suisse would have happened even without U.S. banking crisis. Problems have been reported long before the federal reserve began increasing interest rates.
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The September event was a 3-day affair over a singular liquidity crunch that had (relatively) little long term consequences. A banking crisis rarely cares about the calendar month. We don’t call it the October
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Seems to be fairly uncontroversial, the opposition hasn't presented any significant reasoning against this move, and the nominator's argument that this would be a more precise page name holds weight here.
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large European banking crisis that morphed into the UBS acquisition today, has made this a truly international banking crisis. It is now global, and that is clearly the actual scope of this article now.
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When one reads the page, there is only one major subsection and that is United States. If at all, this article should be renamed to its earlier title. Doesn't seem very global barring Credit Suisse. --
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With the Credit Suisse happenings, might also have to remove the "United States" at some point. Even if the entire thing dies down today, the past week or so have certainly been a "crisis" by itself.
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https://www.reuters.com/business/finance/silicon-valley-bank-collapse-what-you-need-know-2023-03-15/?utm_source=Sailthru&utm_medium=Newsletter&utm_campaign=Weekend-Briefing&utm_term=031823
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What is relevant to this page and what is not is unclear to me. We can't trace market jitters I guess, but these numbers are big. Maybe the question is when do we create a heading "Contagion". Cheers
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significant efforts to diversify away from the USD in the wake of the Russia-Ukraine war, so there is also less likelihood of the Sri Lanka style crisis because US dollars are now less used in Asia.
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It's necessary to be precise on this point, even when the press might not be, considering what could happen if Knowledge (XXG) carelessly identifies a bank here as having failed when it has not
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The US bank crisis that rattled global markets last month is probably nearing the end, even if more unforeseen failures occur, JPMorgan Chase & Co. Chief Executive Officer Jamie Dimon said.
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by the Federal Reserve to combat inflation, as the core problem for Silicon Valley Bank. Many of its assets, such as bonds or mortgage-backed securities, lost market value as rates climbed."
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long as a bank doesn’t need to sell 'hold-to-maturity' assets to meet withdrawal requests, there is no problem. But if a bank has to sell at a loss, that’s when things get complicated."
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of central banks and nation state authorities and also from multiple national banks in the "private" sectior (e.g., First Republic) arranged by national bank regulators—as well as the
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https://www.reuters.com/business/take-five/global-markets-themes-graphic-2023-03-17/?utm_source=Sailthru&utm_medium=Newsletter&utm_campaign=Daily-Briefing&utm_term=031723
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some content from the background section to the section on Silvergate's collapse. I don't doubt that the bank gained additional scrutiny, but I'm not seeing it named at all in the
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The proximate cause is unclear, and complex. But it is unquestioned that the Credit Suisse failure is a big European bank failure as a part of this (now global) banking crisis.
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I think that, for now, we should have one article on all the failures, and that eventually, one the dust settles, we can parcel it out to more specific articles if necessary.
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To clarify, I do think it's too soon for us to title this a "global banking crisis". We currently have a situation where U.S. regional banks are under pressure, and we have a
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mentions the recent drop in share price and 'see also' links to this page but we have no mention of it here that I can see. The concerns have not abated as at today's date:
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flee, but none of that info was public at the time of the collapse; I don't see a common sense reason to include it in the lead, nor one that follows from the sources. —
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investigation out of both Manhattan and DC. If it was it was just a matter of inadequate money laundering controls, that would be a mere regulatory enforcement.
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that I've tried to focus my writing/research on the collapse of Silvergate and Signature; I figured it wouldn't make sense to duplicate the efforts of building
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is common boilerplate language. I note the body did not include the word "criminal," which makes a very big difference here. Worlds apart from a civil case.
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because, can't we wait until April before deleting "March" from the title? Also, it's a bit early to say "crisis"; let's see if there really is a crisis.
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On a related note, there was an edit adding content to the lead providing a but-for cause for Credit Suisse not failing; I don't think the sources actually
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When the article says that it's downgraded the sector, is that referring to how Moody's rates the sector's debt or to its outlook on the stock prices? —
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https://www.theguardian.com/business/nils-pratley-on-finance/2023/mar/15/credit-suisse-has-shot-itself-in-the-foot-and-wounded-the-global-banking-system
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I support the move as no international contagion materialized. The Credit Suisse failure was coincidental; the bank had been a trainwreck for years.
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Is there some 2023 banking crisis outside the United States that requires disambiguation? Also please note the prior remark about the involvement of
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Under Background there could be more here with opinions from public figures concerning possible causes: Warren maintains that the roll-back of the
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are using that terminology "banking crises", describing banking crisis outside the U.S., and some even saying explicitly "global banking crisis."
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It should be mentioned that the controversy at Credit Suisse is related to its investment banking subsidiary that is actually based in New York.
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It might warrant mention in the Federal Response section, but I would want to wait to see legislative proposals before incorporating it there. —
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No, bank examiners routinely inspect money laundering controls without law enforcement involvement, and certainly not criminal investigations.
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I wonder whether the collapse of Metrobank's share price (-28.51% today)would be seen as part of the same issue? Twenty weeks on, same story.
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specifically suggested, above on this page, that we perhaps should have an "article on the United States, and a second on the global events,"
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It appears that a considerable number of reliable, respected sources have begun to refer to the situation as a "banking crisis" as a whole:
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I nominate to rename this article as "2023 International bank failures", which will allow the inclusion of Credit Suisse recent collapse.--
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I nominate to rename this article as "2023 International bank failures", which will allow the inclusion of Credit Suisse recent collapse.
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Thanks. Good piece but I don't think we would cite an opinion piece from the author's own website. Same goes for the FT article. Cheers.
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https://www.institutionalinvestor.com/article/b8xymxcz30zdt9/Asian-Financials-Have-Weathered-the-Banking-Crisis-Better-Than-Global-Peers
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Credit Suisse as a whole has been experiencing a large-scale effectively bank run. It's not just its investment bank arm by this point.
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Misunderstanding of which Citizens Bank failed, it was only 2 branches in Iowa. May not even be related to Citizens Financial Group.
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more concise title without any loss of information. If anything the lack of "global" makes it more hard-hitting. We don't call it the
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Should PacWest be added with more details/it's page about it to the series since in November 2023 it was bought out from the crisis?
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If any of you disagree, feel free to revert the reversion to make it that global banking crisis article a full article once again.
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claims Signature was targeted by the regulators because of their cryptocurrency holdings, to make a point about avoiding crypto.
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https://www.theguardian.com/business/2023/may/04/shares-in-california-lender-pacwest-plummet-amid-fears-of-new-us-banking-crisis
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Worth posting here I thought, DebtRank is worth mentioning somewhere in this article. But interesting that 'Nature' is source.
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https://www.afr.com/companies/financial-services/yellen-pledges-help-for-svb-depositors-but-says-no-to-bailout-20230313-p5crih
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https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-03-10/asia-sees-limited-contagion-risk-from-silicon-valley-bank-s-woes#xj4y7vzkg
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exception and statistical anomaly, stemming from issues that had been discussed well before the current US banking crisis.
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https://dailyhodl.com/2023/11/04/fifth-bank-failure-of-2023-declared-iowa-bank-insolvent-due-to-significant-loan-losses/
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For the rationale for the original proposal, and the rationale for the currently proposed titles, see the discussion.
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to comply with procedural requirements to notify the target page and to allow further discussion of these two options.
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just found the topic of "2023 global banking crisis" as not meriting an article at this time. Issues presented were
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I think I'd like to remove 'United States' from it, because Credit Suisse sorta failed as well. 'Crisis' can wait.
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to redirect back to the much more narrow US-focused, bank failures, of a few banks. The reviewer said it could be
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if it was it was just a matter of inadequate money laundering controls, that would be a mere regulatory enforcement
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he bank and its staff haven’t been accused of wrongdoing, and the investigation could end without further action
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The term global is grossly overstating, it is a localised U.S. banking crisis affecting a handful of banks.
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involved (some compliance work does require reporting, but that's very different than what's going on here).
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Thank you for the article. My concern here is the stability of the article, but I do not see any edit wars.
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At the very least it should be shortened to '2023 banking crisis' until more information becomes available.
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per above. Not really global, but can't be "2023 United States banking crisis" because of Credit Suisse.
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https://www.reuters.com/business/crunch-time-credit-suisse-talks-ubs-seeks-swiss-assurances-2023-03-19/
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We now have a couple of articles which denote the more fearful scale of the looming financial crisis:
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While the events for CS have a different basis, the media seems to link them to the SVB developments.
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If another bank fails due to related causes with SVB on 1 April, then the title would be inaccurate;
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are reporting that Credit Suisse and UBS have reached a deal. Article under construction at
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I'll leave further edits to others - I don't have the confidence on this subject. Thanks.
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interbank and regulator-arranged bailouts is way beyond a mere couple of bank failures.
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I think it is better to have a single article covering the wider banking crisis because
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this article is the best place to have a list of all bank failures globally in 2023. —
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The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below.
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Since 'global' is part of the title now should this section be titled 'Contagion'?
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https://finance.yahoo.com/news/investors-shaken-banking-crisis-flock-000000083.html
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No US banks have collapsed in January and February, and the title implies such;
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https://edition.cnn.com/2023/03/18/business/credit-suisse-crisis-ubs/index.html
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this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.
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collage. You are free to participate in the collage choice discussion here:
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This is primarily a US banking crisis currently for the following reasons:
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central article on it, a DABCONCEPT if you will, that covers all versions.
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linger" (granted, this implies that the crisis is potential, not ongoing)
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This also aligns with what the first link from macrocompass talks about.
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Since only US banks have collapsed, it would be proper to state "US".
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John P. Hussman, Ph.D., President Hussman Investment Trust, March 2023
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Long story short, I disagree, but I'll accede to excluding it for now.
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only. Yeah it's a crisis, yes it's a global one, yes we should have
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is a more succinct title, and does not diminish the article scope.
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are hardly sensational outlets. If it had been Fox or CNN, sure.
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This is still very much a work in progress. I can slap the
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Or just "2023 bank failures". We'll need to change it.
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