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meaningfully different. However in 2020 and 2022 Russian authorities involvement in doping coverups resulted in banning the state of Russia for 4 years (ie 2019-2023). Participation of
Russian athletes under Russian Olympic Committee not showing Russian flag or anthem was allowed. The question whether the 2 relevant maps (2020-2022) should feature Russia as country for theses is indeed dubious. In 2022 (after the winter games) the Belarus Olympic Committee (due to support of Ukraine war and treatment of its athletes) and in 2023 Russian Olympic Committee was suspended as Olympic committee (after it included substantial part of Ukraine (and their athletes) as belonging to Russia). This means that for the 2024 Olympics these committees can not send athletes. This is a distinctly different situation from anything before. While individual athletes from both countries are allowed to compete on personal title they can not have any explicit connection to their home country. Hence in any case for the 2024 map Russia and Belarus should be shown as not competing on the map (and not as having won any medals). (of course if there are neutral, strong sources that contradict my interpretation above I am willing to discuss).
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Finishing First with 40 Gold and 126 total medals,while china has 40 gold medals and 91 total medal overall takes second, Japan finished third with 20 gold medals and sixth in the overall medal count. Australia finished fourth with 18 gold medals and fifth in the overall medal count. The host nation France finished fifth with 16 gold and 64 total medals. Dominica, Saint Lucia, Cape Verde, and Albania won their first-ever Olympic medals, the former two both being gold, with Botswana and Guatemala also winning their first-ever gold medals. The Refugee Olympic Team also won their first-ever medal. Note:from japan finished 3rd to end will remain unchanged,but the beginning of the final pre host nation section will need to be changed i am requesting the change since i am afraid of getting blocked,and if anything above agrees,maybe you can also do some minor change to finalize before publishing,it may be imperfect
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top, that US edged past China in the very last event to finish on top of the table. It is a fact that China did not finish on top of any medal table. They tied for the number of gold medals only, and I don't see a problem with what he has written. He has been very clear. He has stated that China tied in gold and finishing 2nd due to fewer silvers. He has even listed the top 5 countries, which is the right thing to do. There should not be any arguments. The whole paragraph is as clear and accurate as it gets.
3978:: I received replies claiming that China came second on gold medal tally but that reasoning isn't supported by reliable sources but just made up by anon editors. Knowledge (XXG)ās NOR policy prohibits the use of unpublished arguments or interpretations. The removal of China's achievement, despite substantial coverage by reliable sources, appears to favor editor-created narratives over verifiable facts. Knowledge (XXG) should not replace documented facts with personal interpretations or original reasoning.
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top nation? It's obviously because you don't like to read the part that China came close this time and tied with USA on golds. But going out of your way on changing the MOS consistently done for the past 5 Olympics just so you can remove the sentence that China came second and tied with US on gold, is just disruptive editing WP:OWN, where you are removing info simply because you don't like it, and not because it violates any
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Olympic history is this year when it's USA having to share the gold medal tie with China. But the first ever gold medal tie is history worthy for an encyclopedia and has to be acknowledged even if you aren't fond of such an unprecedented occurrence.
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3452:. I find that version to be clear and detailed enough. And additionally doesn't downgrades China as nothing more than as a backdrop to USA instead of being the focus of its own dedicated sentence. But reverting back to the unequal version makes no sense and just shows starkly that we only single out China for minimization which we donāt do for 4 other countries, and why I addressed it.
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medals, however USA came first on overall medals for having more silvers, while China came second overall. And it's self explanatory. Gold medal tally only counts golds and there is no tiebreaker for who wins the most golds. Multiple media outlets report that United States and China tied on golds and never claim that USA beat china on gold medals.
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be used. Yes after the start of the war, the IOC said that it would completely ban the participation of
Russian athletes, but that later changed. Anyway, these two maps do not represent the NOCs, but what countries the participating athletes are from. If the maps showed NOCs then yes, those states should be greyed out.
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2775:. The only relevant qualifier, when stating that two teams tied for a lead, is the gold medal count itself. As such, you list it alphabetically, with China and then US. No one is disputing that the US led in the medal table, it's just an obviously better way to write out country names in that context.
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China tied with the United States on golds (40), and consequently became the third country after the United States and former Soviet Union to top the most gold medal count at a Summer
Olympics without the advantage of competing at home, but finished second overall due to fewer silvers; the nation won
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American media only uses total medals table, so when they saw that the top two countries finished on equal number of golds, they started using the term 'tie in gold medal count' because they don't use the Gold Medal Table. Countries who use the gold medal table have clearly stated that US finished on
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Countries are never placed as equals based on gold, they are always further differentiated by the number of other medals. Gold medal count in isolation is not used anywhere. Just because the sensationalist media has used the term in some places doesn't mean it exists. Find me a table where gold medal
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Yes that too; it's also because China and USA were also so exceedingly close to each other this year - that alone is merit enough for at least China to be included for the lead. It wasn't an olympics where US lead by a big margin over second place and makes others irrelevant. But actually got tied at
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Thanks for pointing out the spelling error I made twice, I didn't notice. Born and raised in the US, monolingual
English speaker, college educated. I wrote the comment haphazardly (ooo big word there!). However, notice I never said the US didn't win the overall medal count. The point of my comment is
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no actually, USA team did win overall medal count! However it was China who was leading in Gold Medals up until
Yesterday Aug 11th, 2024 when Team USA Tied w China! ( BTW medals as in what they won is spelled medals, metal that you wrote is like what ppl mine for. Does that make sense? I know English
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Hm, could you explain more thoroughly what exactly has changed so much since the last Olympics that the map had to change as well? I think it's still the same, athletes from these countries are still not banned, they can participate if the IOC allows them and their flags or country names still cannot
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The statistics are in: 12.5 million tickets have been sold for the Paris Olympics, and 2.5 million for the Paralympics, according to the French sports newspaper āL'Ć©quipeā, setting a new record for both. What's more, in the last line of the last paragraph I would have added a success for the locals
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The United States topped the medal table for the fourth consecutive Summer Games and 19th time overall, with 40 gold and 126 total medals. China tied with the United States on golds (40), but finished second due to having fewer silvers; the nation won 91 medals overall. This is the first time a gold
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The United States topped the medal table for the fourth consecutive Summer Games and 19th time overall. China tied with the United States on golds (40), marking the first time a gold medal tie has occurred at the top in Summer Olympic history, but finished second due to fewer silvers; the nation won
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Knowledge (XXG) should provide fair balanced coverage. Historically and consistently in many recent Olympic articles, whenever there's notable info like US winning its 1000th gold medal in 2016 Olympics or UK becoming the first country to increase medal tally after hosting a games, they are included
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They were further differentiated by the number of silvers and bronzes and ranked 6th, 7th, 8th, and 9th. This was their ranking that was mentioned. The olympic medal table also listed them in order, rather than as a tie. Gold medals are not given in isolation, they are always given along with silver
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I am not nefariously pulling your leg on this and encourage you to go and ask the other people on it only if you genuinely don't believe me. And also ask yourself this, why do most if not all media constantly refer to China as topping the gold medal count? Are they all just wrong and lying to you as
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There are only two main types of medal tables. 'Gold medal table' and 'total medal table'. Please refer to the olympics medal tables on the official site for both 2020 and 2024 and try to sort by different medal tables. Gold, total medals, alphabetical.. The gold medals table will position countries
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First you argue on this thread that only the top country should be mentioned and not second place. Now you return to your original main goal to reduce the sentence that China tied with USA in golds as you don't like that info. But it's true and supported by top sources that they tied with US on gold
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And it looks wrong to only limit it at the one Olympics where china tied with usa. But if we decide to remove the top 4 countries after USA for this article to only show the top country and the host, we have to do the same with all the other Olympic articles. Otherwise why the sudden change for only
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I noticed in lead, all top 5 countries, except for one, are described with having this much x Gold medals and this much x total medals. Australia, Japan, France, USA all are described that way. The only country that doesn't get described this way is China only. I see one editor went out of their way
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I oppose the addition that "the tie for gold is the first ever in history ā¦ therefore a tiebreak was used ā¦ based on silver medals ā¦ 44 compared to 27" ā this is far too dramatic. The first time a tie occurred in history is not something special on a global scale; what if there was a tie at the 1896
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That's your opinion respectfully. It's obviously needed to be mentioned and saying it disrupts flow is not even a good enough reason to exclude it. If gold medal ties occurred before and is common, then your point may stand. Except it's obviously significant as this never occurred before in history.
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This discussion is seriously convoluted (not only because country, state and nation seem to get confused). Before the relatively recent ban of Russia (first due to doping and then together with Belarus due to the Ukrainian war) this was fairly simple as national Olympic committee and states were not
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omg. It's not "unreliable media". You can't just label any media that doesn't support what you want, to be "unreliable". Especially when it's the overwhelming majority of professional media. I really tried my best to inform you but I clearly failed. That doesn't mean I am going to just let you ruin
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Or are you now making a new argument here and abandoning that? if you are still advocating to change the last 5 Olympic pages and how it's consistently done. All of this, just so you can now support a poor reason to trim this year's second ranked country in the lead, and in particular - the notable
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Also in case I am mistaken on you, go explain to me why the sudden change? In 2004, 2008, 2012, 2016, 2020 Olympics. We have consistently added in the top 3 to top 5 five nations in lead. Why is this year suddenly so different in which we need to urgently now limit it to only USA being mentioned as
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So the beginning of this seems to be untrue!?Paris didn't only host MOSTLY football,the Beach Volleyball was in the shadows of the Eiffel Tower!Not to mention the Triathlon!Can You Take out Mostly?!I feel It seems Confusing to reader!&Can we add All 16 cities/locations!? I find all ppl wld find
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There's nothing in that sentence that specifically mentions rivalry. It's just one sentence that is necessary as it's historically significant as it never happened before, highlighting an unprecedented level of competition and parity at the highest level of international sports. Virtually every top
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In other words, as a paragraph it reads as listing which country was first, second, third, etc, with a sentence beginning for each rank. But what rank is referenced switches, the first two sentences placing US in front of China per total medal count and each sentence after listing the ranks of gold
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the Italian contingent is officially 403 athletes as the Chinese one is of 405. Check all the sources and youāll find it. Iām Italian btw and I study Chinese so I understand also articles in Mandarin. In Italian every newspaper can support the number and the Italian ministry of Sport confirmed it.
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This year also had plenty of historic firsts and to ensure neutrality and fair treatment, Chinaās achievement of being the only modern country, other than US, to finally top gold medal count without home ground advantage, should receive mention too without issues. Failing to do so while mentioning
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We have always shown at least the top 3 nations in on all Olympic pages consistently since 2004. The only difference now for this year, is that China tied with USA on golds and seems you like to find an excuse to trim mention of that factoid by reducing the number of top countries to just 1 now. I
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I think you're over-fixated on the shift in the USA's dominance. Unless there's a stronger argument against including it, I won't continue this discussion. Historically, the USA consistently won significantly more gold medals than other countries. However, this gap has narrowed not just because of
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China doesn't represent "the rest of the world" though. Alsoā¦ that's precisely what makes it a non-neutral statement, highlighting how they are "catching up with the leading country". I am viewing it from a global perspective, because we shouldn't indulge in the drama between USA/CHN specifically.
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You're only viewing it from one perspective. In reality, it's simply an observation of a unique event: the first-ever gold tie at the Summer Games. This historic moment should be seen as a testament to the global advancement in sports, rather than a threat to the spirit of the games. It highlights
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heres the old one: The United States topped the medal table both by gold (40) and total medals (126), with China finishing second (40 and 91). Japan finished third with 20 gold medals and sixth in the overall medal count. Australia finished fourth with 18 gold medals and fifth in the overall medal
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I want to ask whoās constantly changing the number of athletes for the Italian committee from 403 to 371? Iām trying to adjourn it from days and it keeps coming back. Iām Italian, I read Italian, I speak Italian and itās clear on all the official site that our committee has 403 athletes. Iām gonna
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And honestly can't tell if you are gaslighting or innocently misunderstanding because of maybe English vocab issues. But I will try to assume good faith and explain to you clearly one final time. When people say that US came first on Summer olympic medal chart. It means they counted the golds but
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I really do not want to go through more of these weird copium conversations where same people argue that United states somehow beat China on gold medal count despite having the same number of golds. The reality is both the United States and China topped the gold medal count after tying at 40 gold
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The vast majority of those sources are American based; their main focus is highlighting the rivalry between the USA and China specifically, rather than simply pointing out that the tie was a first. They also twist facts in the spirit of sensationalising the news. Many news outlets also repeat the
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I mean, when I go down to this page's Metal Table section and select to organize the table by gold medals, I understand that it still places the United States above China because it seems to use the number of other medals as a way to break ties, instead of just alphabetizing things (see similarly
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In the last paragraph on the first section "The United States topped the medal table both by gold (40) and total medals (126), with China finishing second (40 and 91). Japan finished third with 20 gold medals and sixth in the overall medal count. Australia finished fourth with 18 gold medals and
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I don't think the sentence is really improved by this mention, especially since the first two items are very non-specific and the last item is fairly non-specific. Easier and simpler to just link to the dedicated article. None of the controversies were really all that major in the 10-year-test,
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Why is this article rated "Midāimportance" for multi sports eventsĀ ? It's literally the most important multi sport events. It make no sense to say just "mid". Tokyo 2020 article is rated "Top-importance" as it should be here. LA 2028 is "High-importance" while it will only happens in 4 years...
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But you say you like the current version then good. As long as the basic vital information is included in there, it does not really matter to me much on how others state it. There's only so many ways but OP has been arguing to remove china completely from the lead, which is something I oppose.
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heres the new one: The United States and China both Topped The medal table by Gold Amount,Marking the First Time Where Olympics Ended with 2 countries or more taking the most gold/Sharing the title with the most gold. However Due to United states Having More total medals,it also tops the medal
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makes it easier to understand quickly for many people without having to rack their brains as much. So I reverted it so people can easily understand without mental strain, but more importantly it is back in an equal consistent + neutral manner that doesn't go minimize as much space on China's
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The last chapter is not neutral. It herads Thomas Jolly's embarassed and cowardly explanation, and does not stress the fact that the unknown painting he pulled out of his sleeve to get out of trouble, this painting itself is a notorious parody of da Vinci's masterpiece! So, Thomas Jolly just
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But you can't target and single out China in the lead as this is inconsistent with our approach to other 4 top countries. Additonally the change is trivial and makes it unnecessarily harder for most people to understand. But I guess that's the purpose of such an edit. Original version
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While this commonality may seem inevitable or obvious, it was not always like this, and Paris 2024 has provided the most extensive common platform for both Games in their history, a fact which I don't think is fully reflected on the English-language Knowledge (XXG) at present.
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If the paragraph is about gold medal finishing, the first sentence should reference both US and China as tying, with sentences after for third, etc, however many wanted to list. If the paragraph is about total medal finishing, Great Britain should be listed before Japan.
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There are always ties in gold medals won. There was a 4-way gold medal tie among Netherlands, France, Germany and Italy in Tokyo Olympics 2020. They all finished on 10 golds each but no one called it a tie. No one said that they all finished 6th equal in the "gold medal
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We are talking about a tie in gold medals, only because it has happened at the top of the table. If it had happened for like the 3rd position, no one would be calling it a tie. Nations would be called and said to have finished 3rd and 4th, based on their medal table
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I have just added a "cn" tag to the claim in the lead about the need to use a tiebreaker to resolve a tied medal count. That's not mentioned in either of the two sources immediately after claim. It may be what is done, but we shouldn't be making up claims like this.
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mention it had tied with the US on golds. Which you demonstrated above that you still claim to be false and want to remove. Then that's an extreme way to go about it. Nonetheless top 3 countries should be mentioned and not be suddenly be different for this year,
3659:@Pizzigs Yes, the gold medal count does indeed use silvers (and then bronze) to rank countries who have equal number of golds. In other words, the gold medal count uses silvers as the tie breaker, so I agree with the newer wording you have published.
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NBĀ : I am an atheist architect with a French protestant background, highly educated in Art History at the Ecole des Beaux-Arts in Paris (unlike Jolly who is a self-taught liar on this matter), and a democrat at heart, not a Catholic Trumpist Popist!
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They did top the gold medal count and that's not even debatable, and supported by many sources where they tied with the US on golds. But they didn't top the overall medal count. There's a difference between gold medal count and overall medal chart.
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gold medals, and had to then rely on silvers to win overall. Though if not top 5, then we can just do top 3 like we always done with other past olympic articles since 2004. And given the closeness, China should definitely be included either way.
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separate articles for the Olympics and Paralympics, we miss the opportunity to properly document everything that was common to what was the largest event ever held in France. (Or, alternatively, we end up duplicating it in both articles.)
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fifth in the overall medal count. Host nation France finished fifth with 16 gold and 64 total medals. Dominica, Saint Lucia, Cape Verde, and Albania won their first-ever Olympic medals, the former two both being gold."
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I am not sure whether to declare the games finished when the last event (which appears to be the women's basketball tournament final) finishes, the start of the closing ceremony or the end of the ceremony. Thoughts?
2632:"The tie between the U.S. and China marks the first tie at the top of the table in Summer Olympics history. The only previous Olympics gold medal tie occurred in the Winter Games in 1948 between Norway and Sweden."
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And yes, China tied with US on golds. Stop conflating the overall medal tally with gold medals in which there are no official tiebreakers for golds, and both silver and bronzes are irrelevant on gold medal counts.
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A new ip editor reverted it again without explanation, but it's not an improvement but makes it more unequal and more ambigous and unncessarily harder to understand with ease in comparison, so I reverted it again.
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For the Chinese contingent go check the South Morning China newspaper cause is in English if you donāt speak Mandarin, itās officially 405 athletes. Whoās able to modify the article, please change this. Thank you.
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These sources clearly establish widespread recognition of Chinaās accomplishments at the 2024 Olympics. To align with Knowledge (XXG)'s core policies, it is essential to reflect this information in the article.
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you added a bit saying this is the first time in history a tie at the top has occurred. I don't think it's that important, as it disrupts the flow of the paragraph, but more opinions are needed. What say you? ā
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You are calling it an overall medal table, because you are using terms straight from unreliable media, but it is actually called the gold medal table, as it is sorted by gold medals, instead of total medals.
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You are calling topping the (gold) medal table as topping the overall medals. This is the reason for your (earlier) confusion because you are using different terms to those used by the IOC on their website.
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media that talks about the gold medal tie, feels the need to tell readers that a gold medal tie has never happened before in the history of the Summer Games. It's not insignificant as you make it out to be.
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Ok but confusing as read now. The lede paragraph seems to be discussing one rank but then switches to another. It says China finished second in overall total but then lists Japan as finishing third in gold.
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The "interpretation of the Greek God Dionysus makes us aware of the absurdity of violence between human beings," a post on the official social media account of the Olympic Games said by way of explanation.
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Thank you, it's def an improvement over my version. It breaks it into two sentences and made it easier for readers so your tidying up indeed is a welcome improvement and I agree it's more acceptable.Ā :)
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medals. They came second overall but on strictly on gold medals, they were equal to USA and no sources claim they were beaten by US on golds. Don't contradict the consensus of majority of media on this.
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Obviously we neeed to adjust our template so that it allows us to list the location of the event, without demanding that it be a stadium. That's a bit of an arrogance on the part of Knowledge (XXG).
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The ordering is consistent. We mention the total medal count for USA/CHN as evidence that a tiebreaker was used, be it silver medals or total medals. But the ranking is by gold medals the whole way.
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3957:: The Verifiability policy ensures that all content on Knowledge (XXG) is supported by reliable, published sources. Here are just a few examples of reputable outlets confirming Chinaās achievement:
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NBC Philadelphia: Stated that the U.S. and China ended with 40 gold medals eachāa first for the Summer Gamesāemphasizing that this was a tie rather than a win based solely on gold count.(
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change it for the last time, if it will be cancelled Iām gonna report your IP or nickname on Knowledge (XXG) and be sure you wonāt be able to modify Knowledge (XXG) articles for a while.
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Your stated purpose for this thread was that you believed that we should go trim the second place country from lead, because you say they are irrelevant. As well as the third and fourth.
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in the gold medal count, while China finished second in the overall medal count. This is false. The gold medal count uses silver as a tiebreaker when the two nations are tied on golds.
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an article out of ignorance. Unfortunately I am not in the mood to forever discuss with you so I guess I have to go and find some alternative route to deal with you.
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