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152: 188: 80: 53: 22: 90: 682: 758:– In my experience this star is usually termed "82 Eridani" rather than the more pedantic "82 G. Eridani". To me the insistence on the "G." form seems quite odd. Certainly SIMBAD lists it as "82 Eri" and the references list there contains papers using "82 Eri" or "82 Eridani" in the title and none with the "G." form. 898:
The article never makes this clear. One scientist speculating about a 5% chance does not represent scientific consensus, nor is it very clear. Is it within the generally theorized habitable zone or not? If not, is it in the theorized border range of a habitable planet? If so what are the specifics?
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Has luminosity value been reported in a journal or other reliable published source? If so, use the published value and cite the publication. I don't think it's necessarily good practice to add original research by doing calculations and entering them into WP articles.
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Might as well do this - here's a table summarizing the history of detections in this system. Only two planets are clearly confirmed, usually called b & d. Currently, the outer candidate discussed above is the only other one that seems likely.
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We assert that the 40 day planet HD 20794 c published in Pepe et al. (2011) is due to stellar activity and not a Keplerian signal as its statistical significance has not increased despite the addition of hundreds of new precise RV data
677:{\displaystyle {\begin{aligned}{\frac {L}{L_{sun}}}&=\left({\frac {R}{R_{sun}}}\right)^{2}\left({\frac {T_{eff}}{T_{sun}}}\right)^{4}\\&=0.92^{2}\left({\frac {5,401}{5,778}}\right)^{4}=0.65\end{aligned}}} 943:
I would consider the minimum requirements for creation of a separate article on this object to be a second source confirming its existence, and a consensus on its designation, neither of which currently exist.
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so far), and this name also isn't used by any source - the system is commonly referred to as 82 Eridani or HD 20794, not Gliese 139, and the "d" designation refers to a different planet in most sources.
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3 planets it's been found around HD20794 (82 Eridani): The HARPS search for Earth-like planets in the habitable zone: I -- Very low-mass planets around HD20794, HD85512 and HD192310
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True but in practice the two systems seem to have merged (at least in this case), and while the G. may be more correct, Knowledge (XXG) prefers general usage to correctness.
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Pepe, F.; et al. (2011), "The HARPS search for Earth-like planets in the habitable zone: I – Very low-mass planets around HD20794, HD85512 and HD192310",
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Cretignier, M.; Dumusque, X.; et al. (August 2023). "YARARA V2: Reaching sub-m s precision over a decade using PCA on line-by-line radial velocities".
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I think it is preferred practice to use a value from a published source. If that is not available and there's a consensus to use a calculation (per
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Let me be clearer, the L=0.62 is all that is necessary even if the figure comes from a paper that illustrates the calculation with a formula.
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Feng, F.; Tuomi, M.; Jones, H.R.A. (September 2017). "Evidence for at least three planet candidates orbiting HD 20794".
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Feel free to state your position on the renaming proposal by beginning a new line in this section with
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is not a reference, even if the formula is known, the unpublished results makes it original research.
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This article on a possible planet in the 82 Eridani system was recently created by
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Several sources suggest this star has an infrared excess, which may indicate a
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The following discussion is an archived discussion of the proposal.
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Significant non-detection, rejected as a false positive. Page 44:
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The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the proposal.
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Laliotis, Katherine; Burt, Jennifer A.; et al. (April 2023).
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On 24 September 2012, it was proposed that this article be
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