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Malvern to Malvern Wells. The Bransford Road station was opened on Sep. 1 1858. "Completion of remaining 20 miles to Shelwick depended on progress of two tunnels at Colwall and Ledbury. In February 1860 Liddell reported that the syenite rock at the east end was so hard that 2½ yards was the best week's work yet done, 4 feet being the average, while on the west side of the hill, 10 yards per week was made through shale. In all 815 yards had been driven, leaving 749 yards, and a third shaft was sunk to expedite the work." Corresponding data is given for the Ledbury tunnel. The Malvern Wells to Hereford section was opened on 13 Sep 1861. The Colwell and Ledbury tunnels were 1567 and 1323 yards long. The book goes on to state, completely consistent with article, that the Colwall tunnel was replaced by a new bore, 1589 yards long, opened 2 Aug 1926. The engineer was Charles Liddell and contractor
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Western Railway Company", ie Brunel, and "formed of such a gauge ... as will admit of the same being worked continuously with the said Great Western Railway".
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Western Railway, by E. T. MacDermot. Rev. by C. R. Clinker. Edition: 1st rev. ed. Published/Created: London, I. Allan -1967. Physical description: 3 v. illus., maps., ports. 24 cm. Contents: v. 1. 1833-1863.--v. 2. 1863-1921.--v. 3. 1923-1947, by O. S.
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