1183:". Actually, Cogmed never did any marketing in popular media, the training has been always conducted through clinical psychologists. Whoever wrote these 2 sentences is confusing Cogmed with popular brain training apps such as Lumocity or BrainHq, these app did a lot of marketing, often misrepresenting the results. The article in New York Times doesn't mention Cogmed and talks about brain training apps mentioned above. The references to "yellow press" such as Boston Globe and New Yorker is a joke when you have 100s of academic papers supporting Cogmed and thousands of psychologists worldwide prescribing Cogmed to their patients on a regular basis. As a clinician, I can tell you that, in 10 years of using Cogmed, we've seen better results from this training than from ADHD medication. I am not sure how Knowledge (XXG) works but speak to specialists for God's sake and don't publish this nonsense.
420:
74:
53:
542:
521:
737:
602:
441:
268:
871:
847:
935:
22:
179:
158:
84:
783:
765:
655:
628:
189:
665:
1111:
All supporting research for Cogmed (54 research studies conducted by
Harvard University, Johns Hopkins University, University of California – Davies, etc.) was removed from the article after recent edits. Only the information about one negative study by Melby-Lervag and one negative post by Cook was
1350:
I had ensured that primary sources were kept away and had added critical sections so I don't see the problem there. The problem was that there were some blogs being used as citations in support of the program. I have no problems with suchas, long as the original publications can be found- if they
1091:
This is also not a reliable source. Unless better sources are found, the statement "The New Yorker article was later criticized for misrepresenting the study and missing the fact that the study found that WM training produces reliable short-term improvements in both verbal and visuospatial working
1245:
I'm sorry but he never redirected the article. He just removed certain sections- which was also a questionable action. It still stands as a notable topic. The fact that it was bought by pearson education is not a legitimate reason to redirect it anymore than redirecting
1335:
are all legitimate. The blogs need to be verified as not self-published, which I am still waiting for. Some google searching shows some results for research on cogmed, so I think we need to be satisfied with the coverage part. It does warrent an article of it's
1033:@Taeyebaar I removed your references to sciencedaily.com and Elsevier - they are duplicate and do not express any original opinion rather than provide abstract of Zach Shipstead's article that is already discussed in "Criticism" section.
1048:@Taeyebaar, please stop removing informative text with valid sources. You argument re blogs is incorrect: you should read "WP:RS" properly - the blogs used as references are NOT "self published blogs" deemed as unreliable sources.
1186:
I edited the receptions section to make it more neutral so that all parties are satisfied as I explained in the edit summary. Redirecting a topic is like that disagreeable because it has enough coverage to meet
General
592:
286:
389:
1618:
1470:
1275:
If you want to restore to Guy's version or restore the entire material, go ahead, I won't revert again. But be prepared for some push back as all parties definitely won't be satisfied. --
746:
683:
638:
687:
1548:
1351:
even exist, which was the real problem. Another problem was that the article claimed "despite supporting research" while ignoring the negative results of other research.
610:
1593:
823:
1116:
I am adding back the line about supporting research. I open this section here for any discussion on research - please discuss on talk page before editing the article.
829:
1603:
1573:
919:
982:
Since there is enough coverage we can keep it here. Companies don't need to have the same articles as their parent companies. It has a fair amount of coverage.--
503:
1613:
925:
245:
1409:. Other Google search results show more neutral discussion about this topic, but I still feel it's sufficient enough to meet general notability guidelines.--
727:
1543:
1528:
1181:
The company's marketing efforts have been described in popular media. A 2013 article in The New Yorker magazine said that brain training games are "bogus."
582:
493:
325:
312:
1588:
799:
140:
1563:
717:
1153:
So ignoring all supporting research and positive articles in press and mentioning only a negative study and negative popular article is your idea of
1553:
1538:
1533:
1523:
1513:
235:
558:
469:
1598:
1583:
1568:
1518:
1498:
130:
895:
211:
1608:
1578:
1558:
1001:
Completed major overhaul of the article trying to provide balanced and research substantiated view. Will be editing "Viewpoint" section next.
692:
319:
1508:
1503:
790:
770:
1493:
299:
1293:
We won't know that unless we try. Anyways even if the content is disputed, how does that stop it from being a notable topic of it's own?--
106:
549:
526:
448:
425:
1474:
1354:
This is now starting to sound like a discussion. If you don't mind, I'd like this conversation to be shifted to the cogmed talkpage.--
878:
852:
202:
163:
1405:
I did not dispute that part. However there are still other legitimate refs such as the NYT article and the research report from the
944:
857:
678:
633:
1227:, who "blasted out" the "PR crap" would disagree that he's satisfied with you restoring the material, changing only six words. --
1628:
293:
280:
97:
58:
33:
1623:
380:
306:
105:-related articles on Knowledge (XXG). If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join
468:
related articles on
Knowledge (XXG). If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join
1423:
I had brought this up before: A lot of the external links need to be placed in the references section; though not all.--
1331:
I agree with that. I am not disputing that, however other news coverages such as the NYT, the research report by the
1314:
The version you want to restore is full of self-sourced puffery. There's not much left after that was taken out. --
1131:
Yes, it's blatant promotion. Your inability to neutrally assess your own or others' edits is rather obvious here.
332:
39:
21:
1463:
Knowledge (XXG) is not a marketing tool and the fact the brain training pages have turned into them is sad.
1441:
seems more or less neutral and can be left for the time being until we can sort out the minor issues later.--
1466:
1017:
Completed article edits: included Claims and
Criticism sections, added external link to magazine articles.
891:
352:
1162:
1121:
1053:
1038:
1022:
1006:
894:
on
Knowledge (XXG). If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join
798:
on
Knowledge (XXG). If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join
557:
on
Knowledge (XXG). If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join
210:
on
Knowledge (XXG). If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join
1460:
This article is filled with attack studies, whereas its competitors articles are written like ads.
1446:
1428:
1414:
1391:
Significant portions of this article should not be sourced to the company's marketing materials. --
1359:
1341:
1298:
1259:
1207:
1192:
987:
972:
1406:
1332:
1097:
1254:, just because one was bought by the latter. The content of cogmed was what was in dispute.--
1154:
1113:
345:
1158:
1117:
1049:
1034:
1018:
1002:
440:
419:
338:
194:
670:
369:
1080:
1076:
1202:
Yes it would so it comes out a more neutral. And since many references are legitimate.--
967:
Either we can merge the article or we can mention that pearson is the owner of cogmed.--
73:
52:
1442:
1424:
1410:
1371:
1355:
1337:
1309:
1294:
1270:
1255:
1218:
1203:
1188:
1072:
983:
968:
541:
520:
267:
736:
1487:
1224:
1139:
1133:
461:
457:
89:
1179:
I accidentally stumbled upon this article and very surprised to see the statement: "
601:
1438:
1093:
795:
934:
870:
846:
1392:
1377:
1315:
1276:
1247:
1228:
660:
554:
465:
184:
79:
887:
883:
782:
764:
453:
207:
178:
157:
1251:
102:
1088:
654:
627:
287:
Knowledge (XXG):Requested articles/Business and economics/Companies
1087:
blog is not a journal or media outlet, is self-published, and has
690:. Please visit the project page for details or ask questions at
1084:
15:
682:, which recommends that medicine-related articles follow the
1478:
1450:
1432:
1418:
1400:
1385:
1363:
1345:
1323:
1302:
1284:
1263:
1236:
1211:
1196:
1166:
1144:
1125:
1101:
1057:
1042:
1026:
1010:
991:
976:
933:
735:
600:
1068:
1437:
I think the current version of the article as done by
1092:
memory skills." is unfounded and should be removed. --
611:
the physiology of the brain, nerves and nervous system
882:, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of
794:, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of
553:, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of
452:, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of
206:, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of
101:, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of
1619:
Start-Class software articles of
Unknown-importance
924:This article has not yet received a rating on the
828:This article has not yet received a rating on the
609:This article has been classified as relating to
686:and that biomedical information in any article
684:Manual of Style for medicine-related articles
8:
1071:has at least two blogs used as sources. The
326:Category:Company articles needing infoboxes
313:Category:Company articles needing attention
19:
1464:
1376:No objections to you copying this over. --
841:
759:
622:
515:
414:
275:Here are some tasks awaiting attention:
253:
152:
47:
1549:Physiology articles about neurophysiology
693:Knowledge (XXG) talk:WikiProject Medicine
1594:Unknown-importance neuroscience articles
808:Knowledge (XXG):WikiProject Neuroscience
843:
761:
624:
517:
416:
154:
49:
1471:2607:FEA8:2902:7000:D5C:1ECB:17D4:8EA5
1112:left in this article. For the sake of
567:Knowledge (XXG):WikiProject Physiology
478:Knowledge (XXG):WikiProject Skepticism
1604:Unknown-importance Computing articles
1574:Unknown-importance neurology articles
1077:not subject to editorial review by SA
904:Knowledge (XXG):WikiProject Computing
351:Help expand stub articles located at
220:Knowledge (XXG):WikiProject Companies
7:
1614:Unknown-importance software articles
876:This article is within the scope of
788:This article is within the scope of
702:Knowledge (XXG):WikiProject Medicine
676:This article is within the scope of
547:This article is within the scope of
446:This article is within the scope of
300:Category:Unassessed company articles
200:This article is within the scope of
95:This article is within the scope of
38:It is of interest to the following
1544:Low-importance Physiology articles
1529:Mid-importance Skepticism articles
115:Knowledge (XXG):WikiProject Sweden
14:
1589:Start-Class neuroscience articles
811:Template:WikiProject Neuroscience
1564:Low-importance medicine articles
869:
845:
781:
763:
688:use high-quality medical sources
663:
653:
626:
540:
519:
439:
418:
377:Tag company talk pages with the
266:
187:
177:
156:
82:
72:
51:
20:
1554:WikiProject Physiology articles
1539:Start-Class Physiology articles
1534:WikiProject Skepticism articles
1524:Start-Class Skepticism articles
1514:Mid-importance company articles
1075:blog on Scientific American is
722:This article has been rated as
587:This article has been rated as
570:Template:WikiProject Physiology
498:This article has been rated as
481:Template:WikiProject Skepticism
240:This article has been rated as
135:This article has been rated as
1599:Start-Class Computing articles
1584:All WikiProject Medicine pages
1569:Start-Class neurology articles
1519:WikiProject Companies articles
1499:Mid-importance Sweden articles
907:Template:WikiProject Computing
366:Tag company articles with the
223:Template:WikiProject Companies
1:
1609:Start-Class software articles
1579:Neurology task force articles
1559:Start-Class medicine articles
992:22:24, 24 February 2015 (UTC)
942:This article is supported by
898:and see a list of open tasks.
802:and see a list of open tasks.
744:This article is supported by
705:Template:WikiProject Medicine
561:and see a list of open tasks.
472:and see a list of open tasks.
214:and see a list of open tasks.
109:and see a list of open tasks.
1509:Start-Class company articles
1504:All WikiProject Sweden pages
1479:15:25, 25 October 2021 (UTC)
257:WikiProject Companies To-do:
1494:Start-Class Sweden articles
118:Template:WikiProject Sweden
1645:
1058:00:02, 13 March 2015 (UTC)
1043:21:58, 12 March 2015 (UTC)
1027:19:48, 11 March 2015 (UTC)
1011:00:06, 11 March 2015 (UTC)
977:01:16, 9 August 2014 (UTC)
926:project's importance scale
830:project's importance scale
728:project's importance scale
504:project's importance scale
246:project's importance scale
141:project's importance scale
941:
923:
864:
827:
776:
743:
721:
648:
608:
586:
535:
497:
434:
252:
239:
172:
134:
67:
46:
1451:03:22, 28 May 2015 (UTC)
1433:20:10, 25 May 2015 (UTC)
1419:20:05, 25 May 2015 (UTC)
1401:19:46, 25 May 2015 (UTC)
1386:19:36, 25 May 2015 (UTC)
1364:19:31, 25 May 2015 (UTC)
1346:20:05, 25 May 2015 (UTC)
1324:19:26, 25 May 2015 (UTC)
1303:19:21, 25 May 2015 (UTC)
1285:18:52, 25 May 2015 (UTC)
1264:18:41, 25 May 2015 (UTC)
1237:18:27, 25 May 2015 (UTC)
1212:18:22, 25 May 2015 (UTC)
1197:18:21, 25 May 2015 (UTC)
1167:11:10, 24 May 2015 (UTC)
1145:11:06, 24 May 2015 (UTC)
1126:19:09, 23 May 2015 (UTC)
1102:23:11, 22 May 2015 (UTC)
791:WikiProject Neuroscience
747:the Neurology task force
1629:All Computing articles
938:
892:information technology
740:
605:
550:WikiProject Physiology
449:WikiProject Skepticism
353:Category:Company stubs
28:This article is rated
1624:All Software articles
937:
879:WikiProject Computing
814:neuroscience articles
739:
604:
390:requests for comments
381:WikiProject Companies
203:WikiProject Companies
32:on Knowledge (XXG)'s
1079:and therefore not a
945:WikiProject Software
679:WikiProject Medicine
1107:Supporting Research
1089:no editorial board.
573:Physiology articles
484:Skepticism articles
1407:University of Oslo
1333:University of Oslo
939:
910:Computing articles
741:
606:
98:WikiProject Sweden
34:content assessment
1481:
1469:comment added by
1143:
960:
959:
956:
955:
952:
951:
840:
839:
836:
835:
758:
757:
754:
753:
708:medicine articles
621:
620:
617:
616:
514:
513:
510:
509:
413:
412:
409:
408:
405:
404:
401:
400:
151:
150:
147:
146:
1636:
1397:
1382:
1375:
1320:
1313:
1281:
1274:
1233:
1222:
1137:
1063:Blogs as sources
912:
911:
908:
905:
902:
873:
866:
865:
860:
849:
842:
816:
815:
812:
809:
806:
785:
778:
777:
767:
760:
710:
709:
706:
703:
700:
673:
668:
667:
666:
657:
650:
649:
644:
641:
630:
623:
593:importance scale
575:
574:
571:
568:
565:
544:
537:
536:
531:
523:
516:
486:
485:
482:
479:
476:
443:
436:
435:
430:
422:
415:
384:
373:
339:Portal:Companies
281:Article requests
270:
263:
262:
254:
228:
227:
226:company articles
224:
221:
218:
197:
195:Companies portal
192:
191:
190:
181:
174:
173:
168:
160:
153:
123:
122:
119:
116:
113:
92:
87:
86:
85:
76:
69:
68:
63:
55:
48:
31:
25:
24:
16:
1644:
1643:
1639:
1638:
1637:
1635:
1634:
1633:
1484:
1483:
1458:
1395:
1380:
1369:
1318:
1307:
1279:
1268:
1231:
1216:
1177:
1109:
1081:reliable source
1073:Beautiful Minds
1069:at this writing
1065:
965:
909:
906:
903:
900:
899:
855:
813:
810:
807:
804:
803:
707:
704:
701:
698:
697:
671:Medicine portal
669:
664:
662:
642:
636:
572:
569:
566:
563:
562:
529:
483:
480:
477:
474:
473:
428:
397:
394:
378:
367:
225:
222:
219:
216:
215:
193:
188:
186:
166:
121:Sweden articles
120:
117:
114:
111:
110:
88:
83:
81:
61:
29:
12:
11:
5:
1642:
1640:
1632:
1631:
1626:
1621:
1616:
1611:
1606:
1601:
1596:
1591:
1586:
1581:
1576:
1571:
1566:
1561:
1556:
1551:
1546:
1541:
1536:
1531:
1526:
1521:
1516:
1511:
1506:
1501:
1496:
1486:
1485:
1457:
1454:
1389:
1388:
1329:
1328:
1327:
1326:
1290:
1289:
1288:
1287:
1242:
1241:
1240:
1239:
1176:
1175:Article issues
1173:
1172:
1171:
1170:
1169:
1148:
1147:
1108:
1105:
1064:
1061:
1046:
1045:
1030:
1029:
1014:
1013:
997:
995:
994:
964:
961:
958:
957:
954:
953:
950:
949:
940:
930:
929:
922:
916:
915:
913:
896:the discussion
874:
862:
861:
850:
838:
837:
834:
833:
826:
820:
819:
817:
800:the discussion
786:
774:
773:
768:
756:
755:
752:
751:
742:
732:
731:
724:Low-importance
720:
714:
713:
711:
675:
674:
658:
646:
645:
643:Low‑importance
631:
619:
618:
615:
614:
607:
597:
596:
589:Low-importance
585:
579:
578:
576:
559:the discussion
545:
533:
532:
530:Low‑importance
524:
512:
511:
508:
507:
500:Mid-importance
496:
490:
489:
487:
470:the discussion
444:
432:
431:
429:Mid‑importance
423:
411:
410:
407:
406:
403:
402:
399:
398:
396:
395:
393:
392:
386:
385:project banner
375:
363:
355:
341:
328:
315:
302:
289:
274:
272:
271:
259:
258:
250:
249:
242:Mid-importance
238:
232:
231:
229:
212:the discussion
199:
198:
182:
170:
169:
167:Mid‑importance
161:
149:
148:
145:
144:
137:Mid-importance
133:
127:
126:
124:
107:the discussion
94:
93:
77:
65:
64:
62:Mid‑importance
56:
44:
43:
37:
26:
13:
10:
9:
6:
4:
3:
2:
1641:
1630:
1627:
1625:
1622:
1620:
1617:
1615:
1612:
1610:
1607:
1605:
1602:
1600:
1597:
1595:
1592:
1590:
1587:
1585:
1582:
1580:
1577:
1575:
1572:
1570:
1567:
1565:
1562:
1560:
1557:
1555:
1552:
1550:
1547:
1545:
1542:
1540:
1537:
1535:
1532:
1530:
1527:
1525:
1522:
1520:
1517:
1515:
1512:
1510:
1507:
1505:
1502:
1500:
1497:
1495:
1492:
1491:
1489:
1482:
1480:
1476:
1472:
1468:
1461:
1455:
1453:
1452:
1448:
1444:
1440:
1435:
1434:
1430:
1426:
1421:
1420:
1416:
1412:
1408:
1403:
1402:
1399:
1398:
1387:
1384:
1383:
1373:
1368:
1367:
1366:
1365:
1361:
1357:
1352:
1348:
1347:
1343:
1339:
1334:
1325:
1322:
1321:
1311:
1306:
1305:
1304:
1300:
1296:
1292:
1291:
1286:
1283:
1282:
1272:
1267:
1266:
1265:
1261:
1257:
1253:
1249:
1244:
1243:
1238:
1235:
1234:
1226:
1220:
1215:
1214:
1213:
1209:
1205:
1201:
1200:
1199:
1198:
1194:
1190:
1187:Notability.--
1184:
1182:
1174:
1168:
1164:
1160:
1156:
1152:
1151:
1150:
1149:
1146:
1141:
1136:
1135:
1130:
1129:
1128:
1127:
1123:
1119:
1115:
1106:
1104:
1103:
1099:
1095:
1090:
1086:
1082:
1078:
1074:
1070:
1062:
1060:
1059:
1055:
1051:
1044:
1040:
1036:
1032:
1031:
1028:
1024:
1020:
1016:
1015:
1012:
1008:
1004:
1000:
999:
998:
993:
989:
985:
981:
980:
979:
978:
974:
970:
962:
947:
946:
936:
932:
931:
927:
921:
918:
917:
914:
897:
893:
889:
885:
881:
880:
875:
872:
868:
867:
863:
859:
854:
851:
848:
844:
831:
825:
822:
821:
818:
801:
797:
793:
792:
787:
784:
780:
779:
775:
772:
769:
766:
762:
749:
748:
738:
734:
733:
729:
725:
719:
716:
715:
712:
695:
694:
689:
685:
681:
680:
672:
661:
659:
656:
652:
651:
647:
640:
635:
632:
629:
625:
612:
603:
599:
598:
594:
590:
584:
581:
580:
577:
560:
556:
552:
551:
546:
543:
539:
538:
534:
528:
525:
522:
518:
505:
501:
495:
492:
491:
488:
471:
467:
463:
462:pseudohistory
459:
458:pseudoscience
455:
451:
450:
445:
442:
438:
437:
433:
427:
424:
421:
417:
391:
387:
382:
376:
371:
365:
364:
362:
360:
356:
354:
350:
348:
347:
342:
340:
337:
335:
334:
329:
327:
324:
322:
321:
316:
314:
311:
309:
308:
303:
301:
298:
296:
295:
290:
288:
285:
283:
282:
277:
276:
273:
269:
265:
264:
261:
260:
256:
255:
251:
247:
243:
237:
234:
233:
230:
213:
209:
205:
204:
196:
185:
183:
180:
176:
175:
171:
165:
162:
159:
155:
142:
138:
132:
129:
128:
125:
108:
104:
100:
99:
91:
90:Sweden portal
80:
78:
75:
71:
70:
66:
60:
57:
54:
50:
45:
41:
35:
27:
23:
18:
17:
1465:— Preceding
1462:
1459:
1439:User:Tgeairn
1436:
1422:
1404:
1393:
1390:
1378:
1353:
1349:
1330:
1316:
1277:
1229:
1185:
1180:
1178:
1132:
1110:
1067:The article
1066:
1047:
996:
966:
943:
877:
805:Neuroscience
796:Neuroscience
789:
771:Neuroscience
745:
723:
691:
677:
588:
548:
499:
447:
372:|Companies}}
358:
357:
344:
343:
331:
330:
318:
317:
305:
304:
292:
291:
279:
278:
241:
201:
136:
96:
40:WikiProjects
1159:Wiki-shield
1118:Wiki-shield
1085:SharpBrains
1050:Wiki-shield
1035:Wiki-shield
1019:Wiki-shield
1003:Wiki-shield
30:Start-class
1488:Categories
1248:lucasfilms
564:Physiology
555:Physiology
527:Physiology
475:Skepticism
466:skepticism
426:Skepticism
1443:Taeyebaar
1425:Taeyebaar
1411:Taeyebaar
1372:Taeyebaar
1356:Taeyebaar
1338:Taeyebaar
1310:Taeyebaar
1295:Taeyebaar
1271:Taeyebaar
1256:Taeyebaar
1219:Taeyebaar
1204:Taeyebaar
1189:Taeyebaar
984:Taeyebaar
969:Taeyebaar
901:Computing
888:computing
884:computers
853:Computing
639:Neurology
217:Companies
208:companies
164:Companies
1467:unsigned
1223:I think
858:Software
699:Medicine
634:Medicine
374:template
333:Maintain
307:Copyedit
1456:Studies
1155:WP:NPOV
1114:WP:NPOV
1094:Tgeairn
963:Merging
726:on the
591:on the
502:on the
454:science
388:Answer
320:Infobox
244:on the
139:on the
1336:own.--
1252:disney
1083:. The
890:, and
370:portal
294:Assess
112:Sweden
103:Sweden
59:Sweden
36:scale.
1140:Help!
359:Other
346:Stubs
1475:talk
1447:talk
1429:talk
1415:talk
1394:Neil
1379:Neil
1360:talk
1342:talk
1317:Neil
1299:talk
1278:Neil
1260:talk
1230:Neil
1208:talk
1193:talk
1163:talk
1122:talk
1098:talk
1054:talk
1039:talk
1023:talk
1007:talk
988:talk
973:talk
464:and
1250:to
1225:Guy
1134:Guy
920:???
824:???
718:Low
583:Low
494:Mid
236:Mid
131:Mid
1490::
1477:)
1449:)
1431:)
1417:)
1362:)
1344:)
1301:)
1262:)
1210:)
1195:)
1165:)
1157:?
1124:)
1100:)
1056:)
1041:)
1025:)
1009:)
990:)
975:)
886:,
856::
637::
460:,
456:,
383:}}
379:{{
368:{{
1473:(
1445:(
1427:(
1413:(
1396:N
1381:N
1374::
1370:@
1358:(
1340:(
1319:N
1312::
1308:@
1297:(
1280:N
1273::
1269:@
1258:(
1232:N
1221::
1217:@
1206:(
1191:(
1161:(
1142:)
1138:(
1120:(
1096:(
1052:(
1037:(
1021:(
1005:(
986:(
971:(
948:.
928:.
832:.
750:.
730:.
696:.
613:.
595:.
506:.
361::
349::
336::
323::
310::
297::
284::
248:.
143:.
42::
Text is available under the Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike License. Additional terms may apply.
