Talk:Cold-stimulus headache/Archive 2

1824:. Back before Thanksgiving, I'd attempted to update this article with some information I felt was helpful, regarding the link between ice-cream headaches and migraines. I just saw on SMcCandlish's Talk page that I may have not used the sourcing quite right, so I apologize for that; I am still finding my way around Knowledge and its guidelines and appreciate the feedback. In any case, I think that the changes made to my addition have changed the meaning of what I was trying to convey from the source. My main point is that cold stimulus headaches only last a minute or two, but they can trigger a migraine. Migraines by definition last 4-72 hours, so I think this is a big deal and is clinically important since ~12% of the population has migraine and triggering a migraine that can last for days has significantly more impact on a person's life than a cold-stimulus headache that lasts only minutes. Does that clear up what I was trying to add here? Should I / one of you have another go at making this wording right? 562:. Both the current and proposed titles are colloquial, and the formal medical term is highly unrecognizable, so it makes sense simply to go with the more common one, which I agree is "brain freeze" (though not by a huge margin). I don't think there's much of a case to say that one is more or less accurate than the other; "ice-cream headache" seems unnecessarily narrow given that the phenomenon can occur when one quickly consumes anything cold (not just ice cream). 513:@Sangdeboeuf But "announced change" refers to the change of the article name not that someone is announcing that a concept's favored term has changed in social, scientific ambits. I think that "brain freeze" is more accurate than "ice cream headache", because when I eat or drink something very cold I feel that my brain freezes but the resulting headache probably was not caused by ice cream because the most common way I get such a headache is by drinking a slurpee. 753:: I searched for "brain freeze is caused by" and initially Google said that there were about 3,000 results, but there were only five pages of results, and when I went to the last page, it said that "Your search - "brain freeze is caused by" - did not match any documents". But it showed three pages of results and when I went to the last one, Google said that there were about 54 results. So the initial number of 3,000 was completely made up by Google apparently. 1351:. In my opinion it is better to provide verifiable sources of information as evidence. And that is something I learned when I tried to make a move and editors started showing me the evidence against my request. So I learned. Given that this is a consensus driven decision I will put my thoughts here so the decision maker can see if I indeed I'm mistaken due to my status of learning editor with few edits under his belt or if I am correct in what I'm saying. 31: 1871:

world will keep going on just fine, including for migraine suffers, without Knowledge suggesting they'd better watch out when it comes to ice cream. WP giving a warning about cold foods and migraines is "too soon"; the research hasn't reached secondary sourcing level yet – hasn't been confirmed with repeated testing by independent researchers of the initial claims.

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the way above, that even if "ice cream headache" use may not be as frequent as "brain freeze", its use is frequent enough, and that it is not an ambiguous term as "brain freeze" is, I think that I can come to the conclusion -if there is no further evidence presented against that changes my mind- that the move should

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discussions in the manner you have demonstrated here. I understand that you're new and enthusiastic, but you're going to end up annoying editors at this rate. I need to pay a visit to your talk page to discuss some issues I have noticed with your article edits. Expect that in the next few days (when

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Given that "ice cream headache" is a recognizable and natural term, that it seems to be similarly prevalent as "brain freeze" in reliable English language sources as can be inferred from a sample of 20 results in Google -although its use may be a few times lower as mentioned in my first comment all

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states "Knowledge generally prefers the name that is most commonly used (as determined by its prevalence in a significant majority of independent, reliable English-language sources)", but what seems to seal the deal is that it also states "Ambiguous... names for the article subject, as determined in

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Look, I've never heard of this type of headache before this disussion, so I haven't encountered either term. I guess that is a plus, because I don't come with any cognitive bias. I don't have a preference for either of the proposed titles, and quick research shows that both are in circulation in RS.

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You make a big point in bringing those links about ambiguity to the discussion. Your links really made me work for a few hours. Altough I was torn, that evidence finally made me change my stance from support to opposition, even though I spent a significant amount of time supporting the move, as you

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Sorry, in my humble opinion I think I made the same mistake as you did as you can see in one of my comments above, saying that "I never heard of the term" as a reason to oppose. But the editor that replied to me made me realize that it was very irrelevant if I heard the term or not, that people are

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I do not get brain freezes. My friends and I recently conducted an experiment where I drank a slurpee as fast as I could to see if I could get a brain freeze or not. The only thing I succeeded in doing was finishing a perfectly good slurpee without enjoying it and receiving very cold pains in my

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per Vanisaac. When I saw this proposal, I immediately thought of the other use of brain freeze, when something you were trying to name or describe suddenly evaporates from your active recall. However, ice cream headache is likewise problematic, being too specific as to cause - sorbet and sherbet,

1732:'s page and thought something was a bit off from how I'd seen the term used before. It's always nice to see someone really passionate about a position do a 180 when they realize there was a flaw in their original argument. I'm wondering if there isn't some guidance that should be incorporated into 1699:

I never claimed that I alone need to be persuaded. I have no idea why you say that. I think that in consensus everyone is trying to convince everyone -or at least I think that's the idea. I just pointed out that, in my opinion, other editors didn't provide good reasons to convince me to change my

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I.e., we need secondary sources about this (a systematic or at least literature review). Knowledge isn't a medical news or advice site; it's not our job to report cutting-edge, tentative health information. Research published tomorrow may contradict that primary-research paper completely. The

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passages to describe the plot, but any interpretation needs a secondary source", and "Any interpretation of primary source material requires a reliable secondary source for that interpretation... Do not analyze, evaluate, interpret, or synthesize material found in a primary source yourself". Per

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There is clearly no agreement below to rename this article as proposed, and yet there is much discussion that the present title is not the correct name for this page, as well. There seems to be consensus to move this page to another proposed title, "Cold-stimulus headache", so that is hopefully

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A serious answer to this question. It may have something to do with how you drink your slurpee. You may naturally drink your slurpee (or eat your ice cream) in a way that leaves minimal contact with the back of the roof of your throat, thus bypassing the rapid cooling of the nerves that would

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policy, which states, "A primary source may only be used on Knowledge to make straightforward, descriptive statements of facts that can be verified by any educated person with access to the primary source but without further, specialized knowledge. For example, an article about a novel may cite

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I'm open to change my mind but you are not making a strong case tbh. The book I referenced was coauthored by a professor of psychology at Emory University . "Medical News Today (MNT) is owned and operated by Healthline Media UK Ltd., a leading healthcare publishing company". Cosmos is a leading

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Aren't you perfect? I do not have to provide a citation for casual presentation of personal findings (ie what I hear on the street, amongst my friends and colleagues, etc) when adding to talk pages. Please do not tell me how to contribute to this sort of discussion. The same advice is given to

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states that "Usually, titles should be precise enough to unambiguously define the topical scope of the article", but it also states "Exceptions to the precision criterion may sometimes result from the application of some other naming criteria", some of the latter includes recognizability and

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criticise others' comments. You have 239 non-automated article edits. Ie, there is little evidence to suggest that you know either the potential effects of this sort of move or how one is assessed and closed. 'I usually put verifiable information on my claims, so should you.' Wow! No: you

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https://books.google.com.gt/books?id=8DlS0gfO_QUC&pg=PT54&lpg=PT54&dq=%22brain+freeze+is+caused+by%22&source=bl&ots=pMDyX1HwIr&sig=sbe6Z5syaG3xbIBmwsRSFwUtrDc&hl=en&sa=X&redir_esc=y#v=onepage&q=%22brain%20freeze%20is%20caused%20by%22&f=false

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appears to be a science book for children that is merely citing the aforementioned BMJ paper. I've restored that passage for now, feel free to change the citation if you think it is misleading. A children's science book isn't adding much more than the original paper citation itself.

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I don't think I would support your suggestion. 1.I never heard of the term, 2.That is a technical term that probably is mostly used in some circles and not in the broader society, 3. "cold-stimulus headache is caused by" doesn't return any results in Google

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I have enough time). On a positive note, I am pleased that you are listening to what others have to say, rather than adopting an approach such that everyone should think like you (I think the Americans would say, 'My way or the highway').

1347:, and that I rather should find out how common is the term using appropriate tools, like a google search and compare the number of results of one vs the other and see reliable sources to determine the preponderance of the term as per 1289:

How do you know it is sometimes heard but not as often? That contradicts my findings. Your statement needs a citation. I usually put verifiable information on my claims, so should you. Read my comments for further information.

1534:"Brain freeze" is an ambiguous name. Reliable sources use that term to refer to the headache , but they also refer to it for the memory lapse, although, given the difficulty in finding reliable sources support, not very much. 998: 963: 623: 290: 1182:

Thinker78 please can you not insert refs without a ref talk tag. And no, sorry, decision made, going with the scientific and accurate name The more you say the more the scientific name looks better. Sorry. Finish

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It has been my experience that usually those with sparse brain matter report this phenomenon. Those with heavier, denser brain material usually do not. In short, the stupider brain is more prone to freezing.

315: 395:. Same as when people say "I'm freezing" when they feel very cold, but rarely that would translate in the person actually freezing. And as you say, the popularity of the term is also there. The policy 683:(from Mayo). Thus my proposal to go for the "official", formal one. Granted, selection of more vs. les formal term is a question of good measure – I wouldn't support "lateral epicondylitis" over " 335:

Obviously the most common name for this affliction, even if it is technically incorrect. I'll point out that the current name is also incorrect technically, since the affliction can be caused by

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reasoning for selecting one. However, those are kind of magazine, popular health, Q&A sources, and our register is supposed to be a tad more formal than that; they all acknowledge that it's

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per No such user and AjaxSmack. The scientific meaning is actually the one that will be most accessible to a lay person in this case, as it describes exactly the issue. Brain freeze fails

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can notice above. None of the other editors opposing the move made me change my mind because they didn't provide good reasons for their opposition nor they provided proper evidence.

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The "announced change" refers to the requested move, the change of the name of the article. And I think it is within the scope of encyclopedias to also define colloquial terms.

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They say it was white and not black and other to get a brainfreeze". so this is a raciale aspect of the medical condition. It will only be with the white but not blacks.

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Supposedly, this is a discussion and not a vote. The issue at hand is the best title for the article. If you or the closer don't agree, feel free to ignore my comments.

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I think we should focus on the task at hand which is whether support or oppose the current move. After this is sorted out you guys can request a move per your suggestion.

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for "brain fart" instead of "ice cream headache". Until its usage is more mature and as a neologism gets settled in its meaning, "brain freeze" will be unencyclopedic.

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I mean serious WP:RS that don't use colloquial non-medical phrases such as "is caused by". And the quality of the books. This is a medical article let's be grown up.

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and mostly mentioned as a colloquial synonym. While I'm not a priori against colloquial titles, they should be avoided when a reasonable formal alternative exists (

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I'm not aware of any "announced change" in the naming of this phenomenon. As for "colloquialism", WP should be written in a formal, not a colloquial, tone. See

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sufficient cold stimulus, not just ice-cream. We have other medical articles that are titled in non-literal and technically incorrect/incomplete ways, such as

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https://www.google.com/search?q=%22ice+cream+headache%22&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-b-ab&gfe_rd=cr&dcr=0&ei=_cgQWrvQH8rLXu3oktgJ

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What are your reasons to oppose move from "ice cream headache" to "brain freeze"? Remember that decisions in Knowledge are made through consensus not voting.

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all use "Ice cream headache" in the title, with "brain freeze" and "cold stimulus headache" mentioned as synonyms in text. Yes, there are others, such as

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says: "If the sources written after the change is announced routinely use the new name, Knowledge should follow suit and change relevant titles to match."

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https://www.google.com/search?q=%22brain+freeze%22&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-b-ab&gfe_rd=cr&dcr=0&ei=e8oQWoqjH8rLXu3oktgJ

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I was told that this only happens when one gets an extremely bad brain freeze, but I, however, never felt any "headache" or pain in my brain area.

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to do that—it may make your comments carry more weight; it may not. Let me make my comments without your 'I know best' responses, please.

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Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a

2003: 1380:. A condition that is caused, though not exclusively, by playing tennis. Moving to "cold stimulus headache" would also be fine with me. 1950: 1882: 1456: 668: 1405:

Funny you oppose per tennis elbow, because another editor above (Red Slash) actually supports the move due to... tennis elbow. :)

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position -mainly to highlight the impact it had on me the evidence that Vanisaac brought, and to praise him for that. Per

1445:(compound adjectives are hyphenated). Slang-ish and over-specific alternatives will redirect to it and all will be well. 687:", but "cold-stimulus headache" looks eminently reasonable, in the absence of a single universally-known colloquial name. 675:, that use only the latter two. I don't think it's easy to establish which one is more prevalent, and people are prone to 587: 159:, Brain freeze is by far the most common name for this condition. Nobody I know refers to this as an ice cream headache. 314:"Brain freeze" is a misappellation, since the sensation doesn't originate in the brain, and nothing is being frozen. Per 1829: 1475: 47: 17: 1655:. The quality of arguments presented are assessed by a closing—uninvolved—page mover. You really need to try not to 672: 476:

using commonly-recognizable names. In any event, "ice-cream headache" and "brain freeze" are both colloquial terms.

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ice pops and slushy drinks can all lead to this physiological effect, not just ice cream. I would support a

1222:. Perfectly recognizable, and more accurate than "brain freeze". User:Plantdrew 20:25, 14 November 2017 (UTC) 1954: 1842: 1825: 1188: 1087: 939: 1770: 1610: 1441: 1218: 930: 904: 903:

because it can also refer to a situation where someone's mind goes blank or they can't think of something.

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science magazine in Australia, winner of 47 awards. . I think that's serious WP:RS. Let's be grown up.

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the phenomenon on question, so that policy is not relevant here. Also, it's not Knowledge's purpose to

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reliable sources, are often avoided even though they may be more frequently used by reliable sources".

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You are right, it is a discussion. But I feel discussing another name is kind of going in a tangent.

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go ahead and that "ice cream headache" should remain the title of the article. Cheers!

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the citation and edited the text to agree with what the research paper actually says.

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is from 2005 and only has 12 issues, and searching for the title gives no results.

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Edited 04:45, 14 November 2017 (UTC) Edit: I correct myself, the term is actually

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correct. Be sure that if anyone objects to that new title, then according to the

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Edited 20:21, 12 November 2017 (UTC) Edited again 04:33, 14 November 2017 (UTC)

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If you wish to start a new discussion or revive an old one, please do so on the

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as opposed to "brain freeze is caused by" which returns more than 50 results

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as opposed to "brain freeze is caused by" which returns more than 50 results

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as opposed to "brain freeze is caused by" which returns more than 50 results

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since. Even if this proposal is rejected, the hyphen should be restored per

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https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/mental-mishaps/201111/brain-freeze

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for me (I've never heard the ice-cream condition called that) and also

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http://psychology.emory.edu/home/people/faculty/lilienfeld-scott.html

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is about subjects whose names have changed in real life, such as

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for the article subject, as determined in reliable sources, are

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request a page move to a different title. Happy Holidays to all

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https://cosmosmagazine.com/biology/science-behind-brain-freeze

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https://cosmosmagazine.com/biology/science-behind-brain-freeze

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nor inaccurate, or else it wouldn't be used by those sources.

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Knowledge:Consensus#Achieving_consensus#Through_discussion

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I am guessing you meant to write "Note" instead of "Not"?

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literature, which is supposed to be our guidance See the

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normally induce a brain freeze or ice cream headache.

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The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a

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is the term which is well-atested in actual, y'know,

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https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/244458.php

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https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/244458.php

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Right, that makes a lot of sense. </sarcasm: -->

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