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I'm very sorry that I did not see the discussion which led to this move to an odd and pedantic name for this article. I expect it to be called an "Ice-cream headache." My Gramps said that if I ate his home-made ice cream too fast I would get an ice cream headache, and he was right. I have never heard
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I speak with zero medical/anatomical/metabolic authority, but i think that your anectodal experience is not irreconcilable with the roof of the mouth hypothesis, because the entire process involves some deep-reaching nerves & blood vessel responses, etc...meseemeth all of that could easily take
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Synthetic agents such as WS-3 and WS-23 commonly used in e-liquids for vaping cause the sensation of brain freeze. I can't find relevant research on the matter, but the effect is anecdotally widely known among vapers who use liquids or disposables containing such agents.
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