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1038:...and, yet, from just a cursory glance at the titles of the first five sources cited, 4 of them have "ice cream headache" in their titles, and the fifth (the British medical journal)'s title uses "ice cream evoked headaches." I don't know if these sources have all been in the time since this discussion happened, or what all went down, but I must say i agree with Edison here.. the technical medical diagnostic term notwithstanding, articles should also be titled according to what they're most commonly known as..which appears tho be ice cream headache 171: 913: 155: 508: 432: 274: 243: 734: 713: 342: 1211:“sphenopalatine neuralgia”. Also, English is subjective. All words - even “ganglioneuralgia” - were made up, and if a word becomes common enough to warrant its own definition, it shouldn’t be excluded for being artificial. With that being said, I also agree that the word should at least be mentioned, whether it’s controversial past be contextualized or not. 744: 828: 332: 305: 1188:" of its time, only with more traction from laypeople. The fact that it is apparently a fairly common misconception that this is a real medical/scientific term is perhaps worthy of mention in this article, but we would of course need to source that properly as well. For what it's worth, the earliest use I've been able to locate is from 994:" is an experiment of having someone put his hand into icewater, but it hurts the hand, not the head. This is a pseudo-scientific name. I agree that "brain freeze" is inappropriate since only cooling of the brain is required for the effect, without any actual freezing. An actual frozen brain would be fatal. 1225:
As always, we're limited to what we can properly source. What we want to say is that it is commonly but incorrectly claimed that this is the medical/scientific term for the phenomenon. That's true, but we don't have the sources we would need to make such a statement. So we're stuck not mentioning it,
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I'm very sorry that I did not see the discussion which led to this move to an odd and pedantic name for this article. I expect it to be called an "Ice-cream headache." My Gramps said that if I ate his home-made ice cream too fast I would get an ice cream headache, and he was right. I have never heard
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I speak with zero medical/anatomical/metabolic authority, but i think that your anectodal experience is not irreconcilable with the roof of the mouth hypothesis, because the entire process involves some deep-reaching nerves & blood vessel responses, etc...meseemeth all of that could easily take
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Well, it’s still commonly used in numerous sources (such as healthline). Furthermore, “sphenopalatine” can refer to certain blood vessels/nerves in the head, “ganglio” may refer to “lymph node”, and “neuralgia” can refer to nerve inflammation. In my opinion, a good medical term would be
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of a scientist going around and applying "cold stimuli" to victims' heads to produce "cold stimuli headaches." This is an embarrassment to the project. More people have suffered this pain from rapid eating of ice cream than from some application of other "cold stimuli." A "
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Synthetic agents such as WS-3 and WS-23 commonly used in e-liquids for vaping cause the sensation of brain freeze. I can't find relevant research on the matter, but the effect is anecdotally widely known among vapers who use liquids or disposables containing such agents.
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Just some anecdotal evidence : I disagree with the theories that say it is caused by the cooling of the roof of the mouth. If I swallow an ice cube quickly, I still get brain freeze about a minute later but my mouth is not unusually cold.
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thanks, you can watch the actual episode if you dont believe me . She 100% does say it. 1991 should be removed since it is false information of the year of origin on wikipedia. It existed prior to 1991.
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in casual conversation. I think ultimately the right choice was made; we base articles on published, reliable sources, not editors' personal beliefs or experiences. —
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because we would be misleading our readers if we mentioned the term without explaining that it is in fact not the medical/scientific term.
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Very few papers allude to this, such as this one about peppermint oil. It seems this subject is not well understood or researched.
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Unfortunately, the earlier discussion was clouded with arguments based solely on personal anecdotes of having heard or used
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You may be right, but an IMDB sitcom transcript isn't the sort of evidence you want to rely on when you're on Knowledge...
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Göbel, H; Schmidt, G; Dworschak, M; Stolze, H; Heuss, D (October 1995). "Essential plant oils and headache mechanisms".
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journals for a neurological condition should set off some alarms. Basically, this term is the "
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medical or scientific term for anything. There is a reason that one gets no search results on
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up to a minute to take effect, even after the cold source is gone from the contact site
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Episode of Roseanne from February 1990 where she says "Oh, ice cream headache -
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Phytomedicine : international journal of phytotherapy and phytopharmacology
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Google Scholar is unfortunately not particularly good when it comes to
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for the term. Not sure how reliable any of the sources are, but the
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and ask where he got it from, but I doubt he would remember.
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So the general consensus is that the cause it unknown.
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