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litany of the accusations that have been made against Ballinger. Siwa is the most prominent person who has spoken out in defense of Ballinger, and readers of this article should be able to read what she said. Note also that many of Siwa's videos with Ballinger, both on Ballinger's channels and on her own have been viewed hundreds of millions of times, making Siwa probably Ballinger's most successful ongoing collaboration, so she is not a "random person". I still think the
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was asked about the situation on a random podcast, and gave her opinion. I also think you have selectively chosen the quote, as seen by the long ellipses you included. What you think of as "balance" is not really balance IMO, I think you just want to end the section on a positive word about Ballinger. That's fine if you do, but find one that makes sense to put there.
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but you have not demonstrated any consensus to add this quote, and after how long it took for that section to reach balance, I would think you would be careful before trying to unilaterally act out again. Let me recall that it was you who was the center of that nonsense in BLP about this. There is no need for this to continue, just remove your biases please.....
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commented:" that flows better in the context of the full section, but that's just wording semantics. Perhaps citing the article author's name, or adding a phrase like "Later," to the beginning of the sentence to make when the article was presented from the timeline more clear. But on the substance, I
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article, together with a link to the podcast itself for anyone interested in listening to primary source. These are still currently in the text and are what Criticalus wishes to delete. However, these are needed, at a bare minimum, to add some balance to this one-side discussion that otherwise is a
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I appreciate your response. I just want to make it absolutely clear that I have no campaign against any editors, and I apologize if my heated comment above gave off that impression. There are many discussions in the talk archives that show us all working constructively, and I welcome that dialogue. I
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I was unfamilar with Siwa and Ballinger's past relationship, thank you for sharing that context. If there is a consensus to add these quotes, I have no objections of course. Vanity Fair was already attempted to be added and rejected by a consensus just a couple months ago, I think, but of course it
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Two notable individuals, one of whom was collaborating with Ballinger at the time (and is therefore a source of knowledge and insight into the events) has valid knowledge and a key viewpoint on events that we should show here. (Despite what was claimed in one of the reverts, neither Mandel nor Siwa
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I have been watching this article since noticing the fuss and fully protecting it in July. Your edits are text book edit warring and the comments above are text book poking of opponents. You will be blocked if there are ever any further double or triple reverts on this article (apart from the usual
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For God's sakes, disagreing with you and asking to talk about it in the talk page is *not* edit warring. I can't believe how badly you guys want to run interference to prevent this article from being unbiased, it's insane. I frankly don't care enough to get into an engaged, protracted thing again,
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I have removed the JoJo Siwa quote again. Please do not add it back without demonstrated consensus. In this context, she is a random person. She is notable in the sense she has her own Knowledge article, sure, but she is not relevant to the conversation about Colleen Ballinger, other than that she
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This misses the key idea that the media had misused the term "grooming", which is what caught their attention from McIntyre's videos, and their clear conclusion that Ballinger's behavior "does not approach the sexual exploitation or abuse that... 'grooming' indicates". This is the shortest quote
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Some quick thought will show that your scenario cannot be allowed at Knowledge—how would it work if everyone waited a few days before continuing their campaign against multiple editors? At any rate, it would be better to ask for advice until you have more experience. It doesn't matter, but FYI, a
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See the detailed discussion about this on this Talk page's archived discussions. This was discussed in detail and at length. Ballinger has never even been accused of (let alone prosecuted for) any crime, and the accusations of mildly inappropriate conduct against her are amply covered in the
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Siwa explains their relationship in the podcast video, the relevant 7 minutes of which, I suggest are worth watching. Plus, if one watches Ballinger's videos over the years, I think they explain a lot about her relationship with her young audience that is missed by the news sources that have,
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Watch the segment. Mandel does not know anything about the facts or have anything else of value to add on this topic. What is of interest is that Siwa was willing to say anything at all knowing that McIntyre and his brigade would come after her on their social media, which they did. --
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I thought he was just doing his job as an interviewer: pushing his interviewee to give a more complete answer. I wouldn't characterise it as 'pushing back'. (And we shouldn't be trying to characterise it as anything of the sort: that's for secondary sources to do). -
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published allegations of "grooming" flexibly employ the term in a fashion not unlike how it’s weaponized in right-wing circles against LGBTQ+ people; the described behavior does not approach the sexual exploitation or abuse that the actual definition of “grooming”
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article points out, they are "racking up hundreds of thousands of views" for their channels by attacking Ballinger. Indeed, McIntyre has posted at least a hundred videos to his YouTube channel attacking Ballinger. Here is what I think we should quote from
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that noted that McIntyre "rack up hundreds of thousands of views—by commenting on the hypocrisy of every move" and noting that his 3-year campaign against Ballinger finally "captured the attention of the mainstream press" with the salacious accusations.
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I saw a bit of the podcast video, but I will watch the full relevant portion of the podcast. From what I saw though, it seemed Howie Mandel was pushing back on Siwa a bit, would it be worth including any part of his comments from the podcast as well?
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Let's back up a little: Almost all of the content that we painstakingly added in recent months regarding the accusations against Ballinger discusses the videos against Ballinger by former fans or friends. Previously, I suggested that, to add some
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think if there's an edit that is called into question, it's fair for editors to workshop it through the talk page before re-introducing it into mainspace, and the implication that my goal was to edit war or campaign against anyone is incorrect.
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is. As long as it is clear that the stance is one from VF (ie. clarified or quoted in the text and with the supporting citation), then this is OK. I think the shorter suggestion is a nothing quote that confuses more than enlightens. -
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exemptions for blatant vandalism or BLP violations). The article is now fully protected. Would someone please ping me or any other admin if consensus is reached so the previous indefinite auto-confirmed protection can be restored.
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No: Please read the comments from this page that are archived in recent months. It was agreed, basically, that the word "groom" does not accurately describe what Ballinger was actually accused of. The meaning of "groom" is
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unfortunately and uncritically, repeated the sensational allegations by a small number of disaffected ex-fans, ex-employees, and her ex-husband, all of whom are YouTubers who have monetized these attacks. As the
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I think the final quote suggestion you made (05:03, 14 October 2023) is well-balanced. My only suggestion would be to consider perhaps a different way to introduce the quote than "An article in
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Whether the behavior amounts to grooming or not is not one for an encyclopedia to determine, it feels like a weird quote to pull from that piece. I think we should avoid that latter sentence.
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can always be revisited now. If you have a proposed text re: Vanity Fair inclusion, it would be appreciated if you would put the proposed text in the talk discussion here first.
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IDONTLIKEIT isn’t justification for edit warring against two editors. - such obstruction and disruption isn’t beneficial to article development. -
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are “A random person”: both are notable in their own rights) and Siwa, as a collaborator of Ballinger, is definitely relevant to the article. -
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Move the "Accusations of inappropriate conduct" content to the semi-standardized "Controversies" heading, instead of burying under "Reception"
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What the title says, the fact that her misconduct was with minors is an important piece of information that should be included in the lead.
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Re, the Vanity Fair quote, I disagree with the one you have selected, it's far too long. Here is a potential shorter version draft:
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Because they were only accusations on social media that were expressed in salacious terms, so they were picked up by the press. --
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The substance of Ballinger’s alleged grooming ... has not been interrogated by media outlets reporting on the controversy either.
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I agree that the quotes from "Us Weekly" magazine and "Vanity Fair" magazine should be included in the discussion.
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Late reply I apologize, but the fact that they were against minors in particular is an important detail.
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Why isn’t the fact that the accusations of misconduct were done with minors mentioned in the lead?
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analysis should be added back, as it is also necessary to add balance to this discussion. --
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Right. It is our job as encyclopedia editors to convey the most thoughtful analysis by
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article and appropriately mentioned in the Lead. Anything more would violate not only
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I endorse the suggestion made by Ssilvers above. I believe this is the way forward
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discussed her long relationship with Ballinger, and included some quotes from the
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OK, I added the writer's name and added the material chronologically. --
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not been interrogated by media outlets reporting on the controversy."
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