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Why do the people who AREN'T part of a thing the sole decision makers in the name of a thing, and the people who are part of a thing not allowed to have their official name for their thing in the
English language be the name for the article of the thing that faces the English speaking world in the
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Trans people article have their preferred name and pronouns because the sources are mainstream media. Why are sources of mainstream media quoting transphobes (who number in the millions and use deadnames and original pronouns) not matter when it comes to the article name and pronouns?
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Why does it matter if 100 million
English speakers wrote 100 million articles in 100 million reliable and trustworthy magazines, newspapers, scientific papers and books, that can be used as 100 million sources to be linked in Knowledge, when the actual CPC itself considers it wrong?
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My propose is to mark somehow in the infobox that communism and marxism are not anymore de facto ideologies of the party. This can be done with a note next to each ideology in the infobox, explaining the party turnaround in the 80s. What do you think.
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I don't recommend. First is a misunderstanding of Wiki principles: we do not ourselves analyze stances -- that's OR or SYNTH. We seek to reflect them according to due weight in reliable sources.
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