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Community Centres being run by the state, how true is this? Whilst it is true that faith groups run many community centres, this is also true of many of the so-called social centres you refer to, even if anarchists do not like to be called a faith group. It may be useful to mention the different varity of community centres, but to set aside a separate page for these so-caled "autonomous" centres would, I feel, be to concede too much to the vanguardist anarchist politics in a resource which sets out to have a
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political ways of doing things. They sometimes provide the same kind of services as community centres but they are philosophically, and in a lot of cases structurally, very different. Many social centres are also used as places to organise politically against the policies of the mainstream political parties in a given country. As such I feel the distinction needs to be made to properly reflect the nature of social centres. Perhaps a note needs to be added the social centre entry to reflect this.
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So would you please move all the talk about squatting an associated political theories out of this page, so the traditional non-revolutionary and rarely illegal community centre movements can get its page back. I will be bold and do some initial non-destructive editing in which I simply move the out
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The new social centers were to be different... because they were not limited to recreational activities, and, most important, because 'socialized schools', their organizers argued, could act as magnets attracting citizens whose segregation into class and ethnic groups had obscured their common bonds,
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I think you have allowed your ignorance to cloud the issue and removal of the discussion so quickly is hardly helpful. I think these and other distinctions could usefully be made on a single page rather two pages and indeed looking at how various community centres have become legalised since say the
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Centres are run by the state in that they are generally local council funded and controlled. The vast majority of community centres in the UK are run this way. Making the definition has nothing to do with vanaguardist politics but merely accuracy, which I assumed most people on wiki are
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Italian stub. And I still argue that the concept of the "social center" is distinct, especially within an Italian context. In the 1970s Italian anti-capitalist activists coined many terms that they thought diverged from
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I am familiar with that and it is clear that such places like LARC are not very different from community centres. LARC itself is privately owned, as is the
Autonomy Club, 56A is rented from the Council having once been a squat. Use Your loaf, Institute for Autonomy and the Radical dairy are all
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