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STOP ARGUING!!! None of you have given a single shread of evidence while these characters should not be added here. Sure, some of the more notable characters should keep their own page, atleast mention them here! They are, afterall, reffered to as companions of the hall in the books. That right there
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I don't understand what's wrong if the article is in-universe. those who will look for Faerun in internet will probably interested in in-universe information. of course, I agree that providing non-fictional material will be very useful and appropriate for an encyclopedia, but I don't think it's very
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for most notable, and the original and very definition of a now-common fictional-character archetype. The others are arguable. As I said in the AfD for this article, though, I'm certain reliable secondary sources exist; they're just hard to find due to all the fan works and discussion out there,
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when it's obvious that most FR deletions are going to be controversial. We've been left with absurdities such as that where there's a consensus to merge to an article that has since been prodded, and where the least well-known of the Seven Sisters is merged while the most well-known is deleted.
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Also wondering if the D+D talk should go into the game system analog of this item. It seems to be based on an amalgam of a Hammer of Thunderbolts, Gauntlets of Ogre Power and a Girdle of Giant Strength style of setup. Which would include the already mentioned "+5" status of the item as well.
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Certainly the Scimitars article needs to be merged into Drizzt, and the Bruenor and Catti ones into this article, at the very least. The alternative is AFD, and precedent suggests they would be deleted. If they're not merged in the next week or so, I will nominate them for AFD.
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I feel that this section requires revising, as it is rather poorly written and contains a number of generalizations. I intend to do so myself but do not feel comfortable doing so until i re-read the Icewind Dale and possibly Paths of Darkness books.
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Indeed, but there are plenty without that problem. Of course, some of them were indeed nominated but it seems it would have been more productive to proceed a bit more logically, perhaps with input from
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The Tolkein stuff tends to have a lot of sourcing, there's been lots of scholarly work and books written in terms of symbolism of the objects, and such. There isn't that here.
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My main concern is with the disorganized way in which these Forgotten Realms articles are being nominated and considered for deletion. People continue to use
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Starting with some of the myriad minor characters who have articles would have been less contentious than jumping straight to the Companions of the Hall.
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Finally, the characters described here appear in a wide range of media outside the books they are from, including miniatures, RPG books, and more.-
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Do not merge i totaly agree there is deatails that will go missing not to mention it will be very long and the flow will be wrong.
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tag will call for the article's deletion over time, although it has already been determined that the article should be kept.
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I'd also like to add that it'd be nice if the Realms had as many fans on Knowledge (XXG) as Discworld apparently does. =)
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Merging Drizzt is patently ridiculous. He's far and away the most well known FR character, probably tied with
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instead when the subject probably is notable enough, but the article fails to establish notability."
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I'm not sure about the scimitars. I'll admit the article seems silly to me at first, but then I saw
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tag is correct here; the article describes major characters NY Times Best Selling author
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Merging Catti-Brie here might make sense, but Drizzt definitely needs his own page. -
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I support this proposal, as the exisiting articles have little real world context.--
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Now it is a lot of real-world context in Wulfgar. We may restore his article.
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and I haven't had time to look in-depth. Is this really a pressing need?
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Do not merge. You would loose information on the individual Characters.
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Redirect-Class Dungeons & Dragons articles of Low-importance
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List of characters in R. A. Salvatore's Forgotten Realms Series
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tag is used when the subject is "most likely non-notable. Use
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necessary to raise all this fuss 'to delete or not delete'.
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This article was also nominated for AfD, with a result of
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