295:, I just got done merging Wulfgar and Regis in here. I still think secondary sources exist for at least some of these characters, but I haven't had time to look in the last several days when this all started. The difficulty with subjects such as this is a large number of hits that don't qualify as reliable third-party sources; it can take a very long time to find reliable sources on pop-culture topics given the ridiculous number of unreliable ones that exist on the Internet.
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