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compiler and know how to use it. I think that makes Windows a "Yes" and Mac a "Yes*" (or "No*" depending on whether we think the majority of WP readers can compile software or not). I think the question of what flavor of an OS is supported is a different question. I think we have to interpret the column in terms of the most important flavors. eg If it fails to work on XP either as a pre-compiled .exe or when you compile it yourself then Windows should be a "No" but if works on XP but not on 95 then it might be a "Yes". If it works on XP when you compile it yourself but the .exe only works on 95 then that would be a "Yes*" (or "No*") Vista should probably not yet be required, but soon should be. Likewise for the main Linux platforms and Mac OSX Intel vs OS9 or OSX classic.

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2298:"computer algebra" or "symbolic manipulation" in its documentation. That is a silly definition. Computer algebra is a well established scientific field with several annual conferences (the main one being ISSAC) and several journals (the main one being J. Symbolic Computation). Thus the only valid definition of what is a Computer algebra system is what the specialists think of as a CAS. Moreover the rising importance of computer algebra makes that in becomes unavoidable in scientific computation and that every large numerical library must have some tools imported from computer algebra. This does not make them computer algebra systems. 1302:, which there are binary OS X downloads of. The mailing list for maxima has plenty of posts from OS X users--I fail to see how it isn't a "supported" platform. Other products will have similar potential exceptions & you haven't proposed to do with any program that is distributed only as source. I think the current tables are consistent with other software comparison pages. Before any change, we should make sure that we address some of the "gray area" that will be common for anything marked "yes*" or "no*" under your proposal. -- 616: 606: 585: 2198:: This article has multiple issues. I have began to correct some of them: removing entries that are unambiguously not notable and adding, for each entry, a short comment to inform the reader of its specificities. It appears that other entries should be removed, mainly those that are qualified "Numerical software with some computer algebra capabilities". IMO, such a software is not a computer algebra system and should not appear here. When the cleaning up will be done, I'll will edit 141: 120: 2417:, this would be wrong only because number theorists consider that it is wrong. About the criteria, in the publications of computer algebra, the author frequently cite the CAS's that they have used and the CAS's that they have tested. The lack of source shows that the software that I have qualified as non notable have never been reviewed by an independent expert. However, I may have missed some source. This was the purpose of my last question. 151: 341: 217: 711: 690: 264: 243: 89: 32: 1538:

imagination. (Try a search on jobsite, monstir or other job sites and see how many jobs require Mathematica skills, and one would soon see Mathematica is not ubiquitous. There were zero jobs when I looked, but lots on MATLAB) One could argue that the features of Mathematica are described on the Mathematica page, so why add them to the page on Comparison of Computer Algebra systems?

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floats; manipulation of arbitrary symbolic expressions (e.g. PARI can't deal with x^y), animated and/or "interactive" 2D/3D plots, estimated number of known library functions (built-in / shipped with standard distribution as library / available via download), document-like editable worksheets, import / export features, integration into word processing systems, ... —

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compiled for a particular version of windows or OS X? For some cases, using the "depends" template with a note might be appropriate (e.g. relies on cygwin on windows or wine on *nix). I wouldn't necessarily count out non-binaries as "unsupported;" sometimes binaries aren't distributed, but there remains active user assistance (commercial support or otherwise). --

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Windows version of the current release of YACAS. I think this page is misleading those people but not telling them. At the very least the definition above the table should warn them that that this table does not imply binaries are available and that they may need to compile it themselves from whatever language the system is written is.

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caveats. But I think the basic test should be "Can a TYPICAL (insert OS) user go and get/buy (insert system) that will usually WORK without alteration" and I think on that test having to have a compiler and knowledge of using compilers before they can get it to "work", is at least significant enough to highlight.

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But just looking at the data in the table itself, the row for Maple lists the "Latest stable version" as 2024 (6 March 2024) which is not consistent with its "Latest stable release date" being 15 March 2022. Similarly the row for Mathematica lists the latest stable version as 14.0.0 (January 9, 2024)

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I'm a MathWorks employee so I'm not going to edit the page, but I wanted to flag that I believe several of the entries in the table in the General section of the page have out-of-date "Latest stable release dates". The obvious one to my eyes is the Symbolic Math Toolbox (MATLAB) entry. While it lists

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I removed ScaViz, because when I looked into its documentation, I found that it provides no computer algebra capabilities of its own. You can import Java or Python computer algebra via Sympy, Jacsyma, JScl or SymJa. But on this basis any program with a Java or Python API is a computer algebra system.

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which therefore should be expanded in the same style as most articles about a mathematical area. I have started this. Rockmagnetist, the empty sections that you have removed were not intended to help my writing but to give to the reader some idea of the future content of the article (It may be useful

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Although relevant, the discussion seems to be little more than a lot of personal opinions. In Gathen & Gerhard I also see the statement "... mathematical engine underlying any computer algebra system", which supports the definition of a CAS as something more than the mathematical software. Geddes

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To continue of cleaning up this page, I am faced to the problem of what is a CAS and what is the level of notability required to be cited in this page. It appears that the previous editors of this page did consider that a CAS is a software that either allows some formula manipulation or has the words

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to make it an encyclopedic article: explaining what is a CAS system, what are the specificities of CAS's and their differences with other software, describing the unavoidable capabilities, ... Also I'll add a short section for each main system, emphasizing on its specificities. When this program will

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NO. I have edited TWO other math software pages - SAGE where I removed the words "worlds most widely used", "large amounts", "massive" and "easily" (I PREVIUOSLY removed "easy" from Mathematica page also), and AXIOM where I removed the claim that made no sense "Axiom is currently the only CAS with an

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you see that there is a Windows installer (.exe) and the same for Linux (I assume thats what a .rpm file is) but for other platforms you get only the source code that you must compile. So as a Windows user I can download and run Maxima with no special software or skill, but as a Mac user I must get a

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while Maple just mentions "Library code is viewable". Needless to say that image processing is not at all relevent when comparing computer algebra systems, while of course Maple provides the same functionalities and more via its toolboxes. Valid criterias might include: arbitrary precision integers /

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The Macsyma entry states: "development started: 1968", while Maxima entry says: "development started: 1967". These two dates cannot be both correct since Maxima is the continuation of Macsyma. I don't know which is right and which is wrong, so I'm not correcting it myself. But definitely there is a

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source, but the binaries often lag behind the source. So what would you do if version 1 has binaries, but is 10 years older than the source code? In some cases, binaries are not created by the developers, but by others. As such, it's always going to be a difficult one to do objectively. Binaries for

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The table is accurately labeled "operating system support" and has an informative note that the only criteria used is whether it runs without emulation on a platform. I see no advantage of changing the heading and description to say that binaries are available & I don't know whether or not this

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IMO having the green background color for open source and the red background color for non open source cells, subconsciously suggests that open source is better. Green typically suggests good when compared to red suggesting bad. Regardless of whether or not it is, wikipedia shouldn't come out on one

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This list just compares price and license... a real comparison would include features. To put it in another way, I can use this list to quickly find out which CAS's are free, but not which of them is the best (for my purposes). Also the cyan background of the "free" cells is much too bright compared

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I may confirm your impression, at least for the software that allow the user to write programs. In fact, none implementation language used in CAS is compatible with the usual mathematical language (The only exception seems to be Axiom). For the same reason, except for Axiom, there are very rarely a

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I don't think it's quite right to say that a source is required for the list as a whole, at least not if that means for the exact contents of the list. I read the AFD discussion as agreeing that the concept of a list of CAS was a notable concept, in that there are existing sources that discuss the

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I've asked you several times if you have any connections with Wolfram Research and you fail to answer that question. Virtually every time you edit a page about some bit of maths software that is not Mathematica, it plays down the importance, removes the slightest bit of hype (sometimes I accept you

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I have nothing against source distribution. That seems good. But ONLY source distribution is worthy of mentioning. I expect that the large majority of people that might be able to make use of YACAS are not equipped to be able to use in in source-only form. There is no download from the project of a

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I totally agree with Gerbrant's comment about it not being a real feature comparison. It would be nice if it contained a table with boxes for things like integration, transforms (perhaps by name), limits, special functions, etc. and opportunities for there to be a summary of the level of coverage

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I'm concerned that you appear to be adding links to the drhuang.com website, which you appear to be closely affiliated with. I'm also unconvinced that the CAS that you are trying to add belongs on the list. Other editors shared my concerns the last time you tried to add similar content, back in

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Gathen & Gerhard (def.1) say "This book presents foundations for the mathematical engine underlying any computer algebra system... Finally, a successful computer algebra system involves much more than just a mathematical engine: efficient data structures, a fast kernel and a large compiled or

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Thanks for all the definitions. The first two seem to apply more generally to computer algebra, while the third one seems most specific to computer algebra systems. Would it be correct to say that a computer algebra system includes both a collection of algorithms and an environment or language to

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and the editorial board and authors of Journal of Symbolic computation. More seriously, this is common that it is very difficult to define a scientific field, and that the only valid definition of a scientific field is to be what the community of people working in that field think that it is. For

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In response- the purpose of the Comments column would appear to be the place to put what is DIFFERENT about each tool. I tried to list some features that seemed unusual for a CAS. Also one more thing that distinguishes Mathematica from many of these systems is that it is very widely used. Some on

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Do you have an example of a tool and platform that you'd like this to be the case for? I think there is too much grey area for that to be really valuable. Which distributions of Linux, BSD, and Unix would you choose to represent the answers for the rest of the column? What if something is only

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I just checked this list to compare Maxima, Mathomatic and Maple, and it doesn't help much. Useful comparisons might include: maximum digits precision, (or "highest integer"); some kind of benchmark, say for a big factorial or maybe factoring a given big number; number of functions; families of

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I am dubious that the information about application areas can be made to work, as it seems somewhat subjective about how much each tool is used in each area. But it does seem clear to me that it is different from specific types of symbolic computation. So I have moved those recent additions into

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yacas is a great example. It'd border on the ridiculous to say it was "unsupported" on all platforms. There are third-party binaries available & yacas makes efforts to ensure their C++ version is cross-platform & explicitly claim support on the platforms listed in that table. To say

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You are right that there are lots of gray areas (different flavors of an OS, different hardware, extra software that some systems, amount of configuration, compiling, code hacking you need to do etc) and in the end, the page for that system is the place to put all the detailed requirements and

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Cloudruns adds to the section on notes under Mathematica that Ubiquitous system also includes extensive numeric capabilities, statistics, image processing, number theory, boolean computation and is a development environment. I find it hard to believe that Ubiquitous is not a stretch of the

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should answers to this question, but does not, giving only a poor list of some capabilities of the CASs. Answering this question should be done using the content of the above cited books and some others. This article should also contain a short description of the main general

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be completed, it may appear that the present article is useless and that a merge may be the best solution. But it is too early for a decision. For the moment, the move is not bad solution. Not also that, there is a navbox that is somehow a "list of computer algebra systems".

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Personally I would take the tougher interpretation. Most people know nothing about compiling software, so those without installers should be "No*" where "*" is labelled as "The source code supplied will compile for this platform if you have an appropriate compiler"

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I think that the supported platforms table should indicate whether compiled executables are available or whether you have to compile it yourself. For people who do not know how to compile code, systems that do not provide pre-compiled versions, remain inaccessible.

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Perhaps. Although that would raise the question what the differences between various "full featured" CAS'es are. Are these programs identical? Surely not? Still, an extra column is a good idea. Maybe even more than one, if there is a desire to go into more detail.

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My point is that red links are there for a reason, and that weblinks given with red links are there for a reason, too, because that's what an editor would require as a minimum to be able to make a stub; I do agree with removing external links for blue links. -

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From this analysis, I conclude that the software that are not recognized as CAS by the computer algebra community have not their place here either by lack of notability of by being not really a CAS. I intend to remove from the list the following software:

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The article does makes any hierarchy between the systems that are compared, presenting at the same level systems that are widely used in many scientific domains and confidential software that have be used only by their authors and their close friends

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correct his algebra exercise should both find what they need here. They do have different requirements, though, and I think refactoring the one comprehensive table into several, perhaps according to specific feature sets, would be an improvement.

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I see that the latest revert by D.Lazard has the rationale, "WP:CSC says that if the list is not complete, all entries should be notable or all entries sould be non notable." That is not what it says. Those are simply two commonly used criteria.

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Furthermore, this information is included on the Knowledge pages of all of the CAS's. Including it in the List page would make it easier to do a side by side comparison, instead of having to go to each Knowledge entry for that information.

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Thank you for your comments. I have added KANT/KASH to the list of CASes just now, due to the existence of an article on it. However, I know nothing about Magnus. You can edit Knowledge too, if you want to. Everyone is welcome. :-)

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I have inserted an attempt at a definition of a CAS, based on the above sources, into the lead. This would constitute the criteria for inclusion in the tables. A comment on environment: My impression from the history section in Geddes

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And by "criteria", I meant criteria. Does SIGSAM say what is a CAS and what is not, or are they silent on this point? You appear to be identifying "serious" applications according to your own personal criteria, and removing the rest.

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I actually went to the MATLAB website today and noticed a new revision (R2017a) since this request was made. I will mark this request as declined for now, but in the meantime, please update your request with the new version.

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The same base language for the software is often the language used to interface the software with other programs and to extend the software. Therefore, this is useful information for any comparison of the different CAS's.

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I do not know who you are, but if my life depended on guessing correctly whether or not you work for Wolfram Research, I would have to take my chances and say you do. Only you know whether I would be dead or alive now!

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set of CAS as a whole. It is not required that the exact list in this article be identical to a list in one of those sources. I think it is also too much to ask that each entry in the list be independently notable.

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But where Mathematica is concerned, you go around adding as many links, as many catagories as you can think you can get away with. And of course, when I added a sentence about a free alternative, you quickly remove

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Even if I don't know who is Gerbrant, I also agree on this point. The only thing which currently might allow to guess the features is the last column, which is filled in in a very biased way. E.g., Mmca boasts with

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We could put another yes/no column titled "Full featured". This would be set to yes for full featured CASs like Maxima and Mathematica and set to no for specialized or incomplete CASs like Mathomatic and Fermat. -

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compiler for user programs. And the user may not program in the implementation language, because he does not know how the data are represented and, even if he knows he does no have access to the core of the CAS.

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for this product, which list new features in several releases since then. As I type this the latest release is 24.1 (as part of MathWorks release R2024a) from March 2024 as shown in the revision history of the

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When I started to write this post, I had not a clear idea if the article should be improved or deleted. Reading again my post, I am now convinced that this article should be deleted and replaced by sections in

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Not all Linux distributions support RPM packages out-of-the-box, though. So, as a Linux user, you MIGHT be able to use the binary RPMs, but you might not. Further: on OS X, you can get maxima binaries using

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also says that clear inclusion criteria must be established in the lead. A common criterion is that all of the items be notable, but other criteria are possible. The key is to make sure that the list is not

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functions. (trig, calc, primes, etc.); postfix or infix notation; maximum variables per expression; highest number base; graphing (y/n); extensible; callable from other languages or programs; etc. --

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says this: "e are concerned here with the use of computers for specific mathematical computations which are to be performed symbolically. This subject area is referred to by various names including

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If you can get a MacOSX .dmg file then that is a "yes", even if it is odd that you have to get it from someone other than the project. Perhaps a better example is YACAS. Looking at the download page

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Turning this into an article sounds like a good idea. I have been wondering whether information like the cost of a CAS belonged in an encyclopedia; but more in-depth information certainly does.

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This article is more a list of computer algebra systems than a comparison. In fact, the only properties being compared are the licence and the operating system. Feature comparison is lacking.

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the name comparison leeds to OR problems ideally we should have up to date sources comparing the different systems. The article works for me just as list and seems to avoid the OR problems.--

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I am a MathWorks employee so I’m disclosing my Conflict of Interest and not making any edits myself. As such, please consider the following factual updates for the Symbolic Math Toolbox.

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I suggest that a sentence be added to the article to the effect that primarily numerical software can have some computer algebra rather than not mentioning Symbolic MATLAB Toolbox at all.

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should be keep in sync as well. Note that the template has the word "Comparison" which links to this list, that link will probably need to be tweaked as well if the article is renamed.

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My impression is that, at the moment, everyone is arguing over entries that have their own articles, so an implied minimum requirement is that the entries be notable. Is that correct?

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this page are quite obscure. The use of "ubiquitous" is somewhat CONTEXTUAL. CAS are mainly used in universities, and I am yet to see a university that does not have some Mathematica.

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I have not gone through the whole list to determine if there are any other systems that have similar inconsistencies between the latest stable version and latest stable release date.

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to be a specific implementation with specific elements selected from among the results of the research area in order to realize a particular set of goals or features. For example,

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Risa/Asir is an open source general computer algebra system. Kobe distribution is being developed by OpenXM committers. The original Risa/Asir is developed at Fujitsu Labs LTD.

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It looks like a link farm! Most other software lists don't have URLs for programs which have articles. I'll remove all these & will start to clean the external links. --

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I am working in a specific field and I want to know what computer algebra may do for me and which CAS may be convenient for me. This deserve one section by relevant field in

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should be listed here, it is not a system that can be run locally and it doesn't appear to do any algebra. It is only a units conversion web service as far as I can tell. --

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About the subject of section "What is a CAS" my opinion is that there may not be any commonly accepted definition. There may be a consensus about the two first lists in

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Thanks for your concern. MathHandbook is not person project, is a company project by DrHuang Pty Ltd. DrHuang is the company name. how to add the item? The item can be

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I do not dispute the fact that many universities will make some use of Mathematica, but it is not "ubiquitous". You have provided no evidence to support the claim that

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Ubiquitous system also includes extensive numeric capabilities, statistics, image processing, number theory, boolean computation and is a development environment.

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provided. Absent such, this entry should be renamed Comparison of Platform Accessibility of Computer Algebra Systems or something less misleading like that. --

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Several of the cited software are experimental software, that have not been published nor cited in scientific publications, and therefore do not satisfy the

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Update for Description. CAS system providing tools for solving and manipulating symbolic math expressions and performing variable-precision arithmetic.

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Non notable software that have not been reviewed by computer algebra experts (their WP page do not give any secondary source): Mathomatic, SymbolicC++,

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table give way to a list of branches of mathematics, so most entries can't be properly compared with one another on the basis of what is listed there.

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but it is necessary a confidential program (otherwise how people could know of it?) and it should be considered like fringe theories and receive its

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No, a given reference does not have to contain all the items in the list. I never said that, and the policy doesn't say that. Have another look at

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I hope one of D.Lazard and Yappy2bhere will take the high road and stop this edit war until clear criteria for the list have been established.

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manipulations with algebraic objects on computers, and design of programming languages and environments for implementing these algorithms."

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Either a (*) leading to a note, or perhaps such systems should be marked as "No" with a note "Source code should compile for this system "

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That lead seems to be a list of desirable features that can be classified as either algorithms, environment or language. Are any of them

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Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a

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The functionality comparison table has some errors, for example Wolfram "Mathematica" does have probability and tensorial calculus.

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That probably was a wise decision, but a lot of work, there are too many columns already. Thank you Asmeurer for a job well done! --

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the latest stable version as being part of release R2018a there have been several stable releases since 2018. See as a source the

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Not really CAS: Euler Math Toolbox, Mathomatic (teaching software), Symbolic MATLAB Toolbox, TI-Nspire CAS (Computer Software)

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computer algebra system MathHandbook for free was added, but someone removed it without evidence many times. so a case open.

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To me it would be impossible to add this binary/source idea properly, since for many pieces of software, there are binaries

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There is no NPOV definition of a "typical" linux/bsd/unix that I am aware of. I wouldn't consider compilation "alteration."

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The root problem here is that no sources are provided for the list as a whole. This is required for a list to satisfy the

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more popular platforms are likely to be created quicker than those for less popular platforms. Perhaps just a link to the

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still needs to be cleaned up with descriptions & possibly a few more can be removed--they are somewhat redundant.) --

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Is there a good reason why Geogebra (now supporting CAS) is not listed? It's very easy to use and runs very stable now.

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there is ONLY source code. It gets ticks in every platform when you can't actually get it ready to use on any platform.

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allows some formula manipulation" a sillier definition than the diffuse "what the specialists think of as a CAS"? Who

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I think that MuPad (which is now a Matlab symbolic toolbox) has the equation editor. Would you mind to double-check?

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has been inserted by the author of the WP article, which has the same name as the author of the software. Is it not

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related articles on Knowledge. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join

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3- Sure that notability does not requires publication in a scientific journal. But for scientific questions, the

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to delete these "External links modified" talk page sections if they want to de-clutter talk pages, but see the

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The Java Algebra System (JAS) is an object oriented, type safe and multi-threaded approach to computer algebra.

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to delete these "External links modified" talk page sections if they want to de-clutter talk pages, but see the

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I believe that this page should list only systems that provide some computer algebra capabilities of their own.

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is a more recent area of computer science, where mathematical tools and computer software are developed for the

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is of questionable notability, but there is certainly enough independently verifiable information to list it.

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prefers "List of" to "Comparison of". Renaming seems like a good approach to deal with OR concerns. Seems like

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Others have commented in your talk page about you adding Mathematica to categories which are not very relevant.

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Cost $ 3,150 (Commercial), $ 99 (Student Suite), $ 700 (Academic), $ 194 (Home) Including required MATLAB (

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information but not necessarily independent notability seems appropriate to me. For example, I think that

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Probably quite a few of them. But lets look at Maxima as an example. If you look at the download pages...

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Probably quite a few of them. But lets look at Maxima as an example. If you look at the download pages...

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It would be very nice to have a better license and fee sorting. Could anyone do this task? Thanks, --

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Isn't MATLAB symbolic toolbox equal to Maple? However, it could be mentioned and referenced to Maple

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I too prefer a more inclusive list. The CERN physicist and the middle school student who wants to

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on Knowledge. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join

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before doing mass systematic removals. This message is updated dynamically through the template

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I made the updates, only the release version and date have changed. Please make the edits now.

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It seems like the open source column is not needed, given that there is also a license column.

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of the proposal that this be a list and not a comparison at all. Third, "fringe software" is a

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I confirm that the article has multiple issues even after the cleanup that I have started.

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https://web.archive.org/web/20120415021413/http://www.symbolicnet.org/systems/Systems.html

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I don't know if this stretched definition is an issue for any other systems on this page.

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A Column should be added for the Programming Language in which the Software was written.

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without explicitly defining it. The third is a collection of Maple routines; it defines

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Updates for Operating System SaaS - Yes; available on MATLAB Mobile and MATLAB Online

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Also, clear selection criteria for items in this list should be included in the lead (

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Requested articles/Applied arts and sciences/Computer science, computing, and Internet

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This project would imply to rewrite many things, probably to merge this article and

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I belive Maxima has formula editor capabilities via TeX export (see tex() function)

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and has never been presented to any conference on the subject, then it is not only

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If the list inlcudes Pari/GP then it should also inlcude Kash/Kant available here:

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more sought after in the job market). So why did you not say the same about MATLAB?

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It is a very old version of Maple, so it is not accurate to say that it is equal.

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I for one would prefer to see a more inclusive list. CAS for which there is some

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while its latest stable release date is a year and a half earlier, 29 June 2022.

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NO I used wolfram ONLINE DOCUMENTATION as CITATIONS to TWO edits. No other links.

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Are you unpaid (as you've said elsewhere), or working on behalf of a company?

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added it back with the comment "slash and burn stinks." Please elaborate. --

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Yes, that's right. The first two are computer algebra textbooks; both define

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NO I DIDNT. I changed the wording, but I left the link to YOUR SAGE software.

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I suggest the article to be renamed in "List of computer algebra systems".

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It is listed now. Anyway, Geogebra is NOT free (and that is the reason why

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otherwise would seem to be projecting an bias against source distributions.

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to know that something exists, even if one do not know what it is exactly)

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2- I never added any program to this article. On the other hand the entry

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these specialists, and what is their criteria (with references, please)?

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after the link to keep me from modifying it. Alternatively, you can add

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are usually the scientific publications, even if some are not reliable.

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Moreover the system Magnus for infinite group theory is also missing.

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The English also needs some clean-up. 09:52, 22 January 2014 (UTC)

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I wen't ahead and removed it. If you disagree, please discuss here.

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it is very widely used. (Based on the number of job adds requiring

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sources stands, regardless of the ownership of the software.

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MathHandbbok DrHuang Pty Ltd Free CAS for fractional calculus

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can be found addressing the "comparison" part of the title.

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