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794: 1060:. Thanks for the contribution to the page. I hope this is okay, but I'm going to remove you addition about coronavirus. The article here is about the Jungle camp, which was demolished in 2016; this current pandemic isn't something that happened in the Jungle. There is a (necessarily) small section in the article about after the camp was demolished, but the current pandemic isn't something that deserves is own section here. Sorry about that. Perhaps your additions would be better placed in the 657: 480: 459: 490: 201: 306: 323: 375: 354: 255: 385: 585: 564: 780:
daily mail article giving a location of the "new jungle". I wasn't able to place the next two images but the fourth image also seems to fit. There seems to have been some municipal as well as migrant developments since the google images were taken. The markings on the main road correspond as does
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I removed "where unemployment is much lower than in France", not because it is untrue (it almost certainly is true) but because it implies that this is the motivation for the migration from France to the United Kingdom. In fact, the cited source mentions another source for local (i.e. Calais - not
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This place is being destroyed as I type. Google Earth has apparently been denied recent images by the French government (?) Like these people don't exist at all? Now we have to put them in nice little hypo-allergenic boxes, so nobody will notice or be offended. This is a critical piece of history
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Wonder if the wording "Calais Jungle" was wrought off the older historical wording "Calais Garrigue" said by both the inborn English and Flemish Calais townsfolk in answer to the French annexation of English Flanders (Pale of Calais) and the thereafter swarming in of swarthy French immigrants?
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Nonetheless, the article appears to imply (arguably) that the main motivation for many of the migrants is the lack of immigration control in the world of employment which means it is an easier place to work (and therefore a more attractive destination for those hoping to work illegally). In
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I can't comment with certainty as to whether the refugees in the camp(s) are "generally healthy" but suspect HRF should not be cited as holding a position they don't hold. The comment also doesn't seem to add anything to an article that already describes the living conditions thoroughly.
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It managed to portray the huge dilemma of this seaside town. With 14% unemployment, many residents loathe the presence of the refugees while others loathe the fact that in civilized France, men are forced to bathe in waste water from a chemical plant. "
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I feel the explanation of how the word jungle comes from is unnecessary. The word "Jungle" in general is used in Indo-iranian languages as documented in it's own page. Pashto is an indo-iranian language branch. The Name section feels unnecessary
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I read a number of articles, and it's not clear to me that "Calais Jungle" applies to one specific camp rather than the whole environment transients find themselves in, indeed that camp might be the "New Calais Jungle". All the best:
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Garrigue being a dry French scrubland good for nowt but destructive summer bushfires, so why doesn't the article explain the meaning of the use of the word: jungle in the context of a migrant camp?
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As a result I think that we might present 50°58'08.1"N 1°54'14.4"E as coordinates of an area that is or has been occupied. Otherwise consider this as reference.
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I agree, the name explanation is entirely unconvincing and is being made by a source that is as far from being a RS as you can get. I am going to remove it.
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Many of the migrants in the jungle say that with no identity card system, Britain is a much easier place for an illegal immigrant to find work. "
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being wiped from the record. Please research and expand this article! Please post as many pictures as possible of the old Jungle! Thank you.
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Using Rater, I get ORES Predicted class: FA for this article and reading it through I wouldn't disagree, I can see how it fits the
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I'm not a Knowledge (XXG) editor, but can someone review this? HRF seem to have largely disowned the claims reported here:
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One of the problems the French authorities have is that migrants destroy their documentation. All the best:
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the word 'migrants' by 'refugees' throughout the article sneakily. See for example the similar discussion
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A team of humanitarian OpenStreetMappers mapped out lots of detail of the Calais jungle here on the map:
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Historic use of: "Calais Garrigue" to signify French annexation of English Flanders (Pale of Calais)
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The lede's seeming premise that the Jungle no longer exists seems a little dubious to me, nor does
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particular, the lack of an ID card system is presented as substantive within the cited source.
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harmonize with the continuing homeless presence reported in other parts of the article.
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We're currently on-the-ground to map the new Dunkirk Grande-Synthe camp, which is here:
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The film, with its resonances of World War II deportations, caused a political storm.
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The London Garrigue - for all the swarms of French economic migrants in London
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google maps image corresponds with the centre of the first image in
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I notice the Dunkirk camp currently isn't detailed much here
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Generally healthy and the Human Relief Foundation citation
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