Talk:Carolina Panthers

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because there wasn't room for it and eventually, there will not be enough room to recap the entire Panthers' history. When this article received featured status, the lede established by consensus was different. It's since become jumbled, repetitive, and stuffed with unnecessary information. Featured status isn't a permanent status and in order to maintain featured status, the article has to undergo improvements when necessary. Even the top of talk page asks for improvements and this is a case where improvements are warranted.

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another team, the Panthers would be off the hook for his 2010 salary) and Richardson said he didn't want to pay two coaching staffs in his press conference when asked about it. Not that all that needs to go into the article. But, Richardson made a big deal about Fox not having back to back winning seasons, perhaps that, and not a "disappointing record of 2-14" should be highlighted as the reason for Fox not being retained. It's semantics, but he was definitely not fired and the way it is written now should be cleaned up.

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the options - nothing is lost by saying American football in the first use, but something is gained (for those readers, even though probably a minority, that weren't completely clear wwithout having to read further, or click a link, what code you were referring to). On the other hand, saying just football adds nothing, other than implying "that's what we call it here". The 'that's what we call it here' argument is actually quite common - but the readers probably couldn't care less. -

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I said, it's clear from the paragraph which season is under discussion. Besides, the NFL WikiProject is supposedly going around to all the team pages and working on them so they fit a standard format, so we'll see how that pans out. There's a lot of work to be done on this page, so the headings likely won't stay this way forever, but at least for now, it's overboard to post every single year. Don't mean to piss on your efforts, so don't take this as someone just hating on you.

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section and noticed that it was talking about a specific year. Further, by having a title of "Cardiac Cats are Super Bowl Bound" implies that they are currently SB bound (present tense) OR were SB bound in every season, when in fact that section deals with just one specific previous season. Same thing with "Injury bug" -- is this a bug that the Panthers have had throughout their existence, or was it an issue that existed for just one season? Adding the years helps clarify.

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don't agree with always putting the win-loss record/winning percentage in the lede, it needs to be in the lede when there's a record associated with it. In the case of the Panthers, they are the only NFL franchise with a winning postseason record to not have a Super Bowl title. That's not anymore random trivia than saying the Panthers were 7–9 in their first season or they're second behind the Saints in division titles. It is a record and records belong in the lede.

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New Orleans Saints" are not random trivia, yet the Panthers being the youngest to clinch their division, reach a conference championship, appear in the Super Bowl, and have multiple Super Bowl appearances are deemed as such. This is information that's already in the lede, but not specifically identified to readers.

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Furthermore, this does not explain why the Panthers being the youngest NFL franchise to win their division, reach the conference championship game, appear in the Super Bowl, and have multiple Super Bowl appearances. Like I said, this is already in the lede, but not specifically identified to readers.

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Just because people don't know certain information doesn't mean they don't want to know it. A team's history boils down to their wins and losses because their ultimate purpose (at least to the general public) is to win games. Readers want to know the team's overall performance from the onset. While I

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The lead currently presents an overview of the history section - the major seasons the team has had, and can (and will) be trimmed gradually over future decades as new seasons of higher importance emerge. Trivia about playoff win percentage (a stat very few people know about) doesn't need to be here.

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Other than that pretty happy. I think the article is referenced adequately, and other than those two things above, the broadness criteria is met. Would be good to see more images, and there are obviously a few things with prose, but nothing really bad. Good work on the article; I'll place it on hold.

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The Panthers were "created" first and Jerry Richardson was given the choice of the first pick in the NFL draft or expansion draft he took the first pick in the draft- when the Jags were created they were given the first pick in the expansion draft. I cannot recall WHAT book I read it had the story in

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2006 Season some information was revealed that around 2002 or 2003 (i cant recall exactly) members of the panthers were using banned substances or something of that nature. it was one of the bigger confirmed instances of such use. if anyone knows any exact info this is probably relevant even though

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Fair point, but the paragraphs underneath each heading make it clear they only discuss one season (with the exception of the "Dark Times" header, which states the seasons it refers to). There aren't enough seasons in the Panthers history that it requires each year to be placed in the heading, and as

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I added the years into the headings as I felt it helped categorize each of those sections easier for a non-fan or casual WK reader to understand. The sections are already broken out into a year-by-year recap, but the casual observer wouldn't recognize that unless they bothered to read the associated

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I think the article overplays the Dallas/Carolina rivalry (albeit, there is a history of high-profile postseason games between the two), and downplays the Tampa Bay/Carolina rivalry. Carolina and Tampa Bay have had some extremely physical, close games through the years and games which are notable in

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I'm not sure why you consider other featured articles to be "inferior". This isn't about information that's included/excluded, which is what WP:OTHERSTUFF focuses on, but about good writing practices for articles. The Flames article obtained featured status without recapping the entire team history

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An IP address editor recently removed the win-loss tables from the article. As the editor who both requested that such tables be added to the article and who spent many hours creating those tables in my sandbox, I guess I would like to see them come back. However, I do have to admit that, as the IP

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I think that all articles should disambiguate the code of football in the first instance, but we're just focusing on this one for now! Some of the silliest edit wars on Knowledge have been regarding the use of the term "football". It's crazy. I think the main consideration has got to be weighing up

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I'm not really a believer that all articles on similar topics should be set-out the same way; especially if only for consistencies sake. It seems like something that should be included in stadium (which is their main "facility", and these training grounds are actually attached to it). If there is a

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Whoever wrote that knows nothing about last year. It says that Jake failed to win the game against Atlanta early in the year, when in fact, the panthers won the game. Also, "Unfortunately for the Panthers, Carr suffered the first major injury of his career," is not right. Anyone one who has watched

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CarolinaPanthersBlog.org ranks #2 for carolina panthers blog in Google, and it's focus is to provide the latest news on the Carolina Panthers with it's readers. We also do analysis of games and position breakdowns. We realize there is no SEO benefit in this, yet we feel that our website deserves to

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This would also remove information that is random trivia. It is not necessary to mention they lost to the Packers (or even that the Packers were the eventual Super Bowl champions), they lost to the Patriots, the score of their first Super Bowl, and they lost to the Broncos. Who they lost two isn't

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It is not "random trivia" to identify a franchise as accomplishing feats younger than other franchises. Explain to me how the Panthers' "all-time best for an NFL expansion team's first season" and "the team's five NFC South titles since the division's establishment in 2002 rank second only to the

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If there is reason not to retain the latter in the lede, I would like to understand why. It is notable that the Panthers hold NFL records related to their young age, as well as being the only non-Super Bowl winning franchise with a winning playoff; this is what makes them distinctive and stand out

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article. This isn't an article centered around a human with a normal lifespan. Sports teams can last for centuries. Eventually, the team's history will not be able to be summarized constructively in the lede, overwhelming the reader before they even get into the main article. As the Panthers are a

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I'm fine with not updating the win-loss totals until the end of the season. I think we should either wait a day or two before adding the tables back in (thus giving the IP editor a chance to respond here) or add it back immediately and leave an invitation for them to discuss the matter on the talk

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My original argument for the tables to be included was that the average reader who is not particularly informed about the Carolina Panthers (that is, someone like me) would be confused by History section, with all of its many seasons. A win-loss table would hopefully enable readers like me to keep

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The Panthers are a franchise that's experienced early successes in their young history, but have not claimed a championship. That's the general summary of the franchise right now and that's what the new information conveys in a direct and concise manner. The very purpose of the lede is to contain

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does. However, it seems that Maralia has identified some minor issues that should be addressed at some point. Unfortunately, I can't figure out what they are from reading the FAC review page. Having spent a considerable amount of time reviewing the FAC myself, I would like to make the article the

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Legally, it's different. If he got "fired" as Capers and Seifert did, in the middle of his contract, the team would owe him money. Not re-hiring him (which is the effect of not renewing the contract upon its expiration) doesn't obligate them to pay him anything. But, yeah, the effect is the same:

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infobox colors and doesn't reflect what the predominant colors of the team are, which is black and blue. It seems like it is an unnecessary change and reverting it to what it was would make more sense. I'm not knowledgeable enough to do that, so in addition to asking why it was changed, I'm also

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I think the two tables can belong in the article. Yes it adds a bit of clutter, but it also adds some texture to a very long, imageless section. If they aren't re-added, there needs to be images added to the section to make it more interesting. In my opinion they should be put back, but win-loss

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It depends. Many 'elite' quarterbacks throw under or around 10 or 12 interceptions a season, but Drew Brees, considered one of the best quarterbacks in the league, threw 19 interceptions last season... he also threw 43 touchdowns and over 5,000 yards. Delhomme only threw for eight touchdowns and

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He was definitely not fired by definition. He did not receive an offer to have his contract extended. That decision was probably made prior to the 2010 season. Evidence supporting that includes, that Fox was allowed to interview with the Buffalo Bills before the 2010 season (if he signed with

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I'm hoping someone can answer my question because I really have no answer to it. Is there a reason why the infobox colors of the team and it's players and coaches was changed from a black background with a blue outline to a blue background with a silver outline? It looks nearly identical to the

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We are an international encyclopedia so we tell the nationality of sports teams. All your English examples say they are an English football club in the opening sentence. Even if there wasn't a naming issue with the sport, it's good to say it's an American football team. When it further helps to

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The lede is not long now because the Panthers are a young franchise whose entire history can be summarized in a paragraph or two. Eventually, barring an improbable folding of the team, trying to summarize the franchise history in the lede will make it too long. The Saints' lede became too long

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As I said in the GA review I'm opposed to this. Just because other articles (even FA's) use ambiguous terms doesn't make it a good idea. I think using the term American football in the first sentence of the lead makes the article more accessible - not everyone is going to immediately know that

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Me neither, that's why we open discussion here. Leaving the ref for the time being allows others to see it before commenting. "Contract not renewed" is a euphemism or nice way of saying your fired. Let's face it, he was fired for the poor performance. I understand what you're trying to say but

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clarify the sport in a World where football means association football almost everywhere else, it makes good sense to say it's an American football team in the opening sentence. And if we are going to say American anyway, it would be dumb to hide the sport in a piped link by saying "American

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I'll try and get the review under-way shortly. Once I start I'll go through and add comments/questions as I read through the article; these won't necessarily be points that need to be addressed for the article to pass, but I'd probably be good to try and address them all—even if just a

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article does not because they are 50 years old. Eventually, the lede here will need to follow a similar approach of highlighting the most important seasons and accomplishments. It's best to be proactive on preparing the lede as the Panthers continue to have a lengthier history.

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First thing, there is only one image other than the logo. I think it's perfectly reasonable to expect more on such a topic. A quick search on commons shows a few photos that should be okay are there. Maybe see if there are any images that will improve to the article and add

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Hmmm, being from NC, I have always heard that the logo is the outline of the Carolina's, but I never even bothered to see if it was true! From the images on google, it looks like theres a loose correlation between the two, but anything from the Panther franchise?

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I channged the year when the Panthers were founded to 1993; although the team did not begin play until 1995, the franchise was awarded on October 26, 1993 so the team was technically founded in 1993. I also moved the page to the "1993 establishments" category.

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Yeah, wiki formatting with strikeout and collapsed sections really doesn't lend itself to those types of discussions! There's just one minor point remaining: the placement of the hide/show link in the collapsible tables is super weird to me—hide/show is

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Someone tampered with the 2010 season section, claiming the Panthers had left the NFL to play in NCAA Division I football. I've removed this, but the section could use expanding by someone who has kept up with the team's results this season.

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comment/clarification. Once I've done that I'll try and give a summary, and whether or not I believe the article has met the criteria. I view this process as collaborative so I invite comments and questions from the nominator. -

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asking if someone who is more knowledgeable could change it back (only if it is deemed appropriate to change, if someone explains why it should remain otherwise, then this part of the question is irrelevant.) Thanks in advance.

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Just like the reference to the 7–9 record being the best for an NFL expansion franchise, this can be mentioned alongside the team history. For example, the second paragraph could say this in its first two sentences instead:

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Sorry about the 2006 section of the page. It was my first article I wrote, so that might be the reason. And, yes I am a Panthers' fan, but I did go through my article and take out a few opinions that I put. Sorry again.

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As I have done in my more recent edits, I am willing to make a compromise with the lede to include both the franchise history and the records held by the franchise. Currently, the lede is heavily focused on the former.

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issue to have the collapse link in a column rather than the table heading. I told Toa that I'd look into it, but haven't gotten around to it yet; I'll do it sooner or later if one of you doesn't beat me to it. Thanks.

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It should be changed in the New York Jets article. There are many codes of football, and the opening sentence of an article should be clear. Featured Articles are a better standard to use; GA's can vary in quality. -

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All of the information has been kept up to date and checked frequently, but one possible thing missing that could maybe be added would be a section about the panthers grassroots tailgate section, the "Roaring Riot".

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I would say he wasn't fired for performance at all; he was 'fired' because he didn't want to or try to fit in with the youth movement. And saying he was 'fired' is sketchy, since his contract was simply not renewed.

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any game with Carr starting for Carolina would know that fans were glad when he was out of the game. Plus, the whole section is written in such a way that it is nearly impossible to follow. Needs to be re-written.

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do not matter here. This is a featured article and the lede is established consensus. I am not sure why you are so invested in these other, inferior articles and how they do things - that doesn't matter here.

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Rather than reverting the IP editor's edit, I thought it would be more constructive to seek the opinion of other editors on the talk page (which will hopefully include a response from the IP editor as well).

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I think you may want a quote rather than saying " hailed as one of the greatest Super Bowls ever." - better to actually quote a respected commentator (also, Peter King should be listed as the author of the

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I do recall that the logo is supposed to be shaped (tilted counterclockwise a little bit) like the outline of North/South Carolina together. Here's at least one reference other than Wiki that says this:

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While both the Heat and Raptors articles also use this approach of a history overview for the lede, these too are young franchises that can summarize the entire history in a few paragraphs. The featured

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I'll repeat what I just posted on your talk page: "Contract not renewed" and "fired" are not the same thing. "Contract not renewed" is technically accurate, but I'm not interested in an edit war.

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This section was written by a Panthers' fan (not myself) and is GROSSLY opinionated. It should be re-written, pronto. I'd do it myself, if I had some assistance from a "football expert". Thanks!

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That link must have changed its content over the last six years, or I'm missing the reference to the logo. So far, this is the best reference I've seen for "explaining" what's up

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I still say the entire "2006 season" section that was added is unencyclopedic; is there a need for a slightly biased play-by-play account of each game in this specific article?

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More prose regarding the head coaches in the "Ownership and administration" section; again doesn't need to be much, even if it only discusses the most notable/prolific coaches.

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football means American football. Obviously any ambiguity would have been removed from then on, so I'm only arguing for the use of the full name in the opening sentence. --

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I have linked it; essentially, a color commentator assists the play-by-play commentator by offering analysis, background information, etc. when there is no play going on.

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https://web.archive.org/web/20140111061255/http://www.tampabay.com/sports/football/bucs/carolina-panthers-cornerback-dante-wesley-suspended-for-hit-on-tampa-bay/1045286

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because the lede was trying to summarize the entire history of a 50+ year old franchise. At some point, the lede will need to be overhauled to prevent a length issue.

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https://web.archive.org/web/20140111061416/http://www.wwltv.com/sports/black-and-gold/Saints-Panthers-rivalry-deepening-after-New-Orleans-30-27-win-131475403.html

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I remember when this happened, and a lot of the discussion about that was pretty speculative. If you find a more RS then maybe it could be added in the future. -

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I noticed that although the wiki desecribes the uniforms, their are no pictures or photos of the actual jersheys. Perhaps someone should find a picture for it.

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Should explicitly say "American football" team—American English is no excuse for omitting this; readers shouldn't be expected to click the link to clarify this

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summarized information, which is why this is precise lede material; readers learn from the onset what the Panthers have accomplished and what they haven't.

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2. If so, where should they go? Even if they belong in the article, putting them back where they were before isn't necessarily the best place for them.

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I'll remove for now, but if this is such an issue how have other FAs passed with similar wording? Not everyone is going to know 'football' is 'soccer'.

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State of NC has two legal statuses...laid off and fired...and he wasn't laid off. Ref has been provided. He performed lousy and was "cut" i.e. "fired".

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Concerning Panthers Super Bowl: It's impossible for both teams to score 38 points in the last five minutes of half and to also end the half 14-10.

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Feel free to ping me on my talk page if you have any questions/comments. I'll try and check back here regularly if you have anything to ask. -

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I elaborated a bit on it - basically, the Panthers did not say, but Rosinski believes it is because of a comment he had made in an interview.

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I'd prefer to update it after the season when records are officially updated. Doing otherwise is basically OR - we are adding up ourselves.

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He is considered the owner by NFL standards because he owns a plurality of the team. His partners are part-owners, but he is the owner.

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their own right, such as Carolina blocking three kick attempts including what would have been a game-winning PAT by Martin Grammatica).

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My issue with the former is it's going to keep getting longer to the point where the lede gets slapped with a "too long" tag, like the

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I've expanded a bit on them, as well as the drumline. If there is a need for a more general description of mascots please let me know.

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I don't feel that strongly about it, but I'm interested in others' perspectives. And thanks for your understanding and cooperation. :)

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young franchise, I do not object to retaining this for now, but unless they fold in the next few decades, this will become an issue.

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Quick Question, how great of a source does it have to be. I see numerous sites stating its the outline, but none look too official.

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I agree, didn't notice that before. I've moved it to the 'Stadium' section and renamed it to 'Stadium and practice facilities'.

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At the time you wrote this, it didn't say that Fox was fired as it had already been changed. I've just cleaned it up a bit as a

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Sounds fine either way... I'd prefer to wait a day or two just to see if anyone else besides the IP and us has input as well.

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http://www.tampabay.com/sports/football/bucs/carolina-panthers-cornerback-dante-wesley-suspended-for-hit-on-tampa-bay/1045286

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Maybe a brief (very brief—half sentence) on who Jerry Richardson is, considering his importance to the existence of the team.

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As a note, I have changed 'American football' to 'football'. Upon examining many featured articles on English soccer clubs (

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page was still a featured article, and there was no problem with having the full "American football" in the first sentence.

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This is something that will not influence whether the article passes or not, but it may be a good idea to have a look at

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best that I possibly can. Any suggestions as to what could be improved further would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!

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2,015 yards. Generally speaking, you had better have a lot of yards and touchdowns if you throw that many picks.

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I changed the titles of the historic periods from tacky POV to coaching eras. None of the content was changed.

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Might be good to have a sentence in there about rivalries and uniforms (even if just half a sentence on each)

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Why is the section "Training camp and practice facility" located where it is, and not in the Stadium section?

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but If I find it I'll let you know. I think it was Bill Rosinski's book "Tales from the Carolina Panthers" (

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is "Notable players" an appropriate title when it include the current roster, wouldn't "Players" be better?

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Yeah I have to agree Fox was not fired. There is a difference regardless if it doesn't change anything

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among other NFL franchises. The most distinctive information about a sports team belongs in the lede.

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Certainly lacks NPOV and is not encylopedic. I suggest gonging the whole section as unnecessary.

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Need to disambiguate John Fox. There's an article about a British statistician called John Fox!

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Should we update the all-time record every week, or should we wait until the end of the season?

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I've changed it for now. I swear there were plenty of sources alleging this, but I guess not.

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piece ref ). Either that or find a couple more independent sources that say the same thing.

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You’re inserting random trivia into a featured article. This lead is not abnormally long (

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Pro Bowlers - a sentence introducing this might be good; with a wiki-link if possible.

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Apostrophe is not needed because no possession is implied, but I have reworded it.

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It's called the Hall of Honor on the Carolina web page, not the ring of honor.

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I think this second paragraph is a bit long; is there a way it can be split up?

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Tom Glick has been named as the Team President as of August 24, 2018.

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