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Faso", right? We are not surprised or affronted if someone calls a new but similar entity, somewhere other than Singapore, a "central provident fund". They have done so, more than once. We would be surprised and affronted if someone called a new country "Australia". Same with "queen". That starts as a generic term, like "peripheral nervous system". "The queen" has greater specificity: it refers in a contextually determined way to a particular person. Capitalising to "the Queen" lends even more specificity, tending to fix the reference more durably but still according to context. The fact that people in Britain refer rather consistently to one particular person when they say "the Queen" does not render the expression incapable of referring differently. Now, suppose that all the queens in the world abdicated, except for their Queen Elizabeth. "The queen", and "queen" by itself, would still be general terms that anyone can use generally
679:, with three times the population of Singapore? Knowledge should play no part in shoring up linguistic, economic, or geopolitical hegemonies in the economy of ideas. If some pension fund in Singapore appropriates a certain name, that is well and good: and such a name serves them well. But on Knowledge, nothing is lost by retaining the qualification "(Singapore)". It has been alleged above that such qualifications might mislead readers; I say they can only inform. AjaxSmack has made three assertions here: "To the non-initiated, it implies the existence of other Central Provident Funds. To the user versed in the ways of Knowledge, it directly states that there is another article at Knowledge dealing with another important Central Provident Fund. Neither is true." I see no evidence for the first and second assertions, which make a spurious distinction between insiders and outsiders. If I am either, I am an insider: but 928:. The fact of the matter is that we don't preemptively disambiguate. Dick has created a South African article (currently up for A7 speedy deletion, I see), but even if it survives, it is still obvious that Singapore Central Provident Fund is the primary topic. To Tony and Noetica, I can see where you're coming from, but you are going against a common practice that is site-wide. My suggestion would be that if you truly want to alter the practice of only using parens for disambiguation, then it would be better to go top-down (i.e. getting community consensus via RfC of somesuch), rather than constantly fighting uphill battles on obscure articles. 2072:
CPF.. Singapore’s Ministry of Finance on its part has put forth its explanation as to why CPF funds are invested in Special Singapore Government Securities, to enable CPF Board to be able to pay its members all their monies when due, and the interest that it commits to pay on CPF accounts. The government securities are invested as part of a combined pool of funds managed by GIC, rather than managed in a separate dedicated fund, as a standalone fund would have to be managed conservatively to avoid the risk of failing to meet obligations to CPF members.
490:, I would rather have a discussion about it. Tony's contention is that using what could be a generic term to refer exclusively to a specific instance of that term is misleading, and that such uses ought to include parenthetical qualification (Tony, correct me if I got that wrong). However, I contend that our usual practice is to only provide disambiguation where necessary, and that in this case there are no other "central provident funds" with articles, and so no disambiguation is needed. 74: 53: 317: 84: 22: 162: 861:. There is no other article with the title and nothing to disambiguate within the context of Knowledge. When there is another article (or even a redirect to a section of another article with content relevant to the title), then and only then will it be necessary to use a parenthetical disambiguator. For the concern that other stuff might exist, 2101:
misappropriation". An injunction against Ngerng was granted, barring him from publishing future similar accusations regarding PM Lee and the CPF. Ngerng expressed disappointment at the verdict, but maintained that he would "still continue to speak up on the CPF and other issues that concern Singaporeans".
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CPF is a compulsary savings plan at individual level, whereby each one funds its own benefits, even though it is controlled by a State organization : therefore it is a "private" security savings plan : you will get exactly what you save, and nobody else (except family) will benefit from this savings.
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The section on disputes added by Yosri was incomprehensible, until I read the reference provided. The reference is dedicated to bias opinion for workers' rights. Yosri, in this case, use a paragraph of the page for the disputes section in a bias way. If you would like to add anything, even if there's
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of my FAQ. So, we should be deciding whether WP would be improved by this move or not, including possibly accepting that it would contradict what policy/guidelines say (at least for now), to see whether or not there is at least consensus support for this idea among a small group of us as applied to
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As far as I know, the argument in opposition to this move presented and advocated by Tony, Noetica and Dick is novel. I agree with most of what Jenks24 says above, except the suggestion that such novel arguments need to be made top-down, and, until and unless they achieve consensus at the top, they
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is linked in a hatnote, and as I mentioned earlier, if it satisfies notability criteria and is not deleted, then there is perhaps something to disambiguate. The previous comment was in response to a hypothetical proposition that an article on the concept of provident funds might be written. Oh wait,
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I re-did the entire page taking out the redundant criticisms and whatever stuff about people wanting CPF to move here and there. So putting this article against others, I rate it as Start class. Please tell me if you beg to differ. Also, I will be adding much more stuff later on during the day as of
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Ngerng said that the article was a call for greater transparency on the CPF, the GIC and Temasek Holdings. and called for PM Lee to rebut the points made in his blog post.. Singapore’s Ministry of Finance has publicly stated that CPF monies are safe as all CPF monies are invested in securities that
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The article is void/silent of any discussion of social policy issues that need further attention (e.g. concerning rates of return provided that have and keep being very low, the (low) accumulation level by income level, benefits level in comparison to labor market income (for pensions) and to other
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I am surprised that you don't understand. The structure of "central provident fund" shows that it has analysable semantic content comparable to that of, say, "peripheral nervous system". We don't need a reference to show that! It's more like "peripheral nervous system" than "Australia", or "Burkina
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clearly states: "However, sometimes a requested move is filed in response to a recent move from a long existing name that cannot be undone without administrative help. Therefore, if the closer feels that no consensus has been reached, they may move the article back to the most recent stable name."
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There is a clear affirmative reason not to preemptively disambiguate as well. Although there may not be any great harm in having a parenthetical following a title in any individual case, it runs counter to the general prescription that conciseness of titles is important. This is long-established
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The CPF has been described as "a forced savings scheme" for Singaporeans with "monthly contributions into the fund" to be saved for retirement, or for expenses on "property, healthcare, and their children's education", while the GIC has been described to have "indirectly invested" funds from the
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With all that in mind, I simply see nothing persuasive about the argument to keep this article at the unnecessarily disambiguated name. I think the concepts of primary topic and avoiding over-precision are good ones. As has been noted, even any other Central Provident Fund is clearly much less
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It is a good descriptive article that sets out the basic mechanism of the SQ PF. It covers well contributions, eligibility criteria and benefit types (and what is presented is in line with my recollection). What would be useful to add are a few small tables/graphs with annual data on scope of
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The fact that the current discussion is over a Singaporean agency should be evidence enough that this is not a U.S.-versus-everyone-else issue. Please try to stop making it one. Are there any other National Park Services that we have articles for? No. So if the American one is the only one
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proposed to pay the S$ 150,000 in instalments which was granted by the Prime Minister on the condition that Ngerng paid the S$ 30,000 in hearing costs immediately i.e. by 16 March 2016. Ngerng is expected to repay $ 100 a month from 1 April 2016 onwards over five years until 1 April 2021 when
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leaders, who were being charged with misappropriating funds.. Roy Ngerng’s contract was terminated by his employer, Tan Tock Seng Hospital, in June 2014 because of "conduct incompatible with the values and standards expected of employees, and for misusing working time, hospital computers and
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This is particularly true under a western European understanding : poorer population fund little or nothing, but will benefit the most from the social security; wealthier population will fund much more, yet will benefit little or nothing from the Scheme (true in France for government medical
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That's good. I hope the consensus is clear enough for that fact not to matter, but you're all good. I mean, a consensus for the long-standing title is great, and a strong enough consensus against one means that we abandon the long-standing title, per consensus. We'll see what happens. :)
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My understanding of "social" security means fundings are centralized by a State or local administration controlled body, which controls distribution of the benefits to a population according to specific rules : you don't get what you save, you get what you are entitled to by such rules.
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found Ngerng liable of defamation with damages to be assessed, which was the first such ruling in Singapore over a purely online article. Judge Lee Seiu Kin ruled that there was "no triable defence" and "no doubt that it is defamatory to suggest that the plaintiff is guilty of criminal
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The broader issue is still about CPF. Defamation suit is just a side show; a distraction. He lost it because he admitted to the defamation instead of fighting his cause. Maybe this section should be revised to refocus on CPF issues he raised instead of the defamation part.
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a primary topic associated with the expression "central provident fund". For that, usage and familiarity are not sufficient; and indeed, the expression has the form of a generic expression like "the queen" (which we do not take as having a primary topic – certainly not any
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should be dismissed simply for not having support of broad community consensus. That would create a Catch-22 situation, making change contrary to policy and guidelines at the article level, and to policy and guidelines in general, practically impossible, as explained at
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I think Tony was perfectly justified in his move. The avoidance of parenthetic qualifiers has gone too far, and needs system-wide review. So what if Singapore's central provident fund is the most widely known? Other places want to continue to use this descriptive term in
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Hello all, the following is an exact "massive" copy of what appears on Roy Ngerng's page itself. It is totally inappropriate. Nothing to do with CPF policies, but about his libel case in which he was found guilty. It's like a promotional piece for his cause.
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names should even be considered for primary topic treatment (no parenthetic disambiguation). Well, that, frankly, is a radical idea in the realm of WP article titles, and one for which I believe the reasons to oppose far outweigh the reasons to support.
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I would like to say that the idea that "Central Provident Fund" cannot be a primary topic for anything because "there exists a primary topic associated with the expression 'central provident fund'" is particularly far-fetched. I'm glad that the example of
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Second, a user might access the article through Knowledge's search function or an external search engine such as Google. In this case, a vast majority of searchers will be looking for the Singapore fund because it is the primary topic (see
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be other Central Provident Funds out there but, since there is no article on them at Knowledge, the small minority of users naturally could not find any information about them here anyway. Therefore, a parenthetical disambiguator is not
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Roy drew some parallel regarding the round-triping of church funds and how the CPF operate. That point which generate controversy got loss in the woods because of the lawsuit. Should be able to dig out some reliable references.
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There are two negative reasons why parentheticals are not needed if there is no ambiguity based on how users access the topic and what information they might be seeking. There are several ways a user might arrive at this
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The context of Singapore is perfectly clear from the sentence. Parenthetical identifiers do nothing in such cases because they don't appear in running text, anyway. Therefore, a parenthetical is not needed.
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there are no other funds of this name? Have you checked? It's so generic in its scope that one could easily be created tomorrow, and without knowing it, the article name becomes POV. Why mislead the readers?
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I'm not asking for a procedural close; I'm reminding the closer -- since it wasn't clear in my original nomination -- that the longstanding title of this article was different than the current title.
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It's better to let the discussion run its course and let us determine with great clarity where consensus lies, than to ask for a procedural close and leave the truth of consensus feeling in doubt. -
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as a redirect to it? If so, I applaud your consistency and thank you in advance for clarifying. If not, please explain why the argument you're presenting here would not apply to the case of
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It's high time we met the real needs of real users, instead of narrowly appealing to favourite practices here – or to guidelines that were never intended to mask the true topic of an article.
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generic, that we need to disambiguate. We have innumerable nondisambiguated articles at titles that could be generic. There are at least a dozen royal navies; but we have an article on the
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Editorially, I would add that simply supposing that Singapore is too small or far from the great English-speaking centers of the world to warrant a non-parenthetical title is to perpetuate
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there aren't other ones", and why put a rod down our backs by creating admin work when another pops up? This is apart from the other issues at stake. A quick google search found one in
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participants (contributor, affiliated, beneficiaries), contribution rates (employer, employee), the interest rate provided, and total revenues, expenditure and accumulations.
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instalments are increased to S$ 1,000 until the full sum has been paid by the year 2033. Lee also rejected Ngerng's request to reimburse part of the damages i.e. S$ 36,000.
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was raised, and it was confirmed that per their argument it's problematic too. What this argument amounts to at its essence is that only entities with names that are
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I don't understand your point or your queen analogy. Are you saying that CPF has a generic meaning? If so, what is it? Is there any reference that support this? —
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dab page. I think it's fine to add links there, though some might challenge entries as partial title matches. But seeing as that page started out as a redirect to
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Kervlar, I think you should write to CPF regarding this and ask them to post information about this or you can contribute by finding out as well. ^^
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I admit it was a bit of an exaggeration, but the arguments for and against such a move closely parallel the ones for and against this proposal.
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handed down a judgement ordering Ngerng to pay S$ 100,000 in general damages and S$ 50,000 in aggravated damages. Ngerng, through his lawyer,
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central provident fund. The third assertion ("neither is true") is false, as my examples of other such funds, real or projected, demonstrate.
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are issued and guaranteed by the Singapore Government, which is one of the few remaining triple-A credit-rated governments in the world.
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I don't support a blanket removal of the content as the IP is doing. I do support editing it so that it fits the article better.--
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This sensibly prevents mass proliferation of superfluous descriptions that should be in the intro paragraph rather than the title.
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The current rates are clearly stated in the (very short) lede para of the article - right at the top/beginning of the article....
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of that is out of context, Ajax. Here is the context set by what precedes your excerpt of the guideline (with my underlining):
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Ngerng apologized "unreservedly" on 23 May, admitting that his allegation was "false and completely without foundation".
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be a lexeme. I could take your word for it that they are but it would be nice to have outside input or evidence. "
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discusses a National Provident Fund (a title translated from a similar French term), and WP has a disambig page
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as another example of an article at a potentially generic title. I don't believe the U.S. has one of those.
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must be disambiguated because there might be other national parks with yellow stones in them somewhere.
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that discusses the "central provident fund model implanted by the British in Malaysia and Singapore."
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Does the CPF invest in tradable assests? If so who controls these investments, and how much is owned?
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AjaxSmack, you say "it implies the existence of other central provident funds", I say, "how do you
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Why is the Singapore one the "primary" topic? Clearly, a generic topic about the phenomenon of
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On 29 May 2014, Prime Minister Lee filed a defamation lawsuit against Ngerng. In a 4 August
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Oh but it is so much easier to bolster a weak argument by roiling the anti-American forces.
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Does anyone care to comment or dispute this? Else I shall be removing it. Thanks.
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has verifiable, established usage and a substantial article at Knowledge, as does "
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would be a primary topic, but why is Singapore suddenly better than South Africa?
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guidelines, a 'no consensus' result should result in a reversion to that title.
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as to why its use in Knowledge articles constitutes fair use. In addition to the
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That article is a borderline A7 speedy, as there's no assertion of importance.
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I am surprised by seing CPF referred to as a "social security savings plan".
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Say about the pinyin, wouldn't a multilingual infobox be preferred instead?
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https://mycpf.cpf.gov.sg/Members/AboutUs/about-us-info/history-of-cpf
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I can't imagine anyone making such an argument; stick to the point.
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made a post entitled "Where Your CPF Money Is Going: Learning From
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To start with, I didn't say this was the only fund of this name.
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insurance schemes, unemployement schemes and retirement schemes).
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On 18 May, Prime Minister (PM) Lee responded through his lawyer
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notable enough for an article, then there's no problem at all.
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Tony, Dick and Noetica... would any of you support the move of
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Sorry, but I don't see any disambiguation page for this topic.
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Final comment: I would definitely add to the title Singapore.
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important (or it would have had an article before this week).
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only this one particular case. So, I applaud them for trying.
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if it is highly likely — much more likely than any other topic
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http://mycpf.cpf.gov.sg/CPF/News/News-Release/N_13Dec2012.htm
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When you have finished reviewing my changes, please set the
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That no other article on any other Central Provident Funds
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to be the topic sought when a reader searches for that term
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for additional information. I made the following changes:
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for additional information. I made the following changes:
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reference, please make sure that it is a NPOV and unbias.
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It's not a "sly trick", it's long-standing practice.
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