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Haas and Benjamin regained the championship from Guerrero and Tajiri on the July 3 episode of SmackDown, but lost it to the reformed Los Guerreros on September 18. The duo then dubbed themselves The World's Greatest Tag Team, although announcers made sure to add "Self Proclaimed" to the name, before
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First time the word "feud" appears in the text. This is another reason why "entered a feud, a scripted rivalry" (or whatever wording) might be better than ], because when the first usage of jargon is hidden in a piped wikilink, it doesn't help a reader unfamiliar with the context-specific usage of
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normal usage on promoted articles, I'm more than willing to accede to consensus, but it sticks out as odd to me. Occurs one other time, too, and also ]. "Scripted rivalry" especially seems odd to me, because it seems to be the only time the fact that wrestling is scripted is alluded to. Following
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Soon after the breakup, Benjamin and Haas referred to themselves as The Best Damn Tag Team Period and then The Self-Proclaimed World's Greatest Tag Team, or The World's Greatest Tag Team for short. They went on to recapture the WWE Tag Team Championship from Eddie Guerrero and Tajiri on July
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Well the exact reason is unknown. But I did discover on the marginally reliable site Solie, who gets its information from books, magizines, and other promotions, that he was stripped of the title due to a contract loopole. Vague but the best we got at the
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It goes both ways. There was a long discussion on trying to show wrestling is more scripted. Feud is alright to use since it is an universal term through various subjects. A user could write it as "heel, villainous character" or just "villainous
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This is a hard one. Non-WWE or TNA events/promotions tend not to get that much press. For the indy stuff (like CZW) I do try to limit it to significant stuff like debuting in a promotion, winning a championship, etc, anyway.
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occur in the "In wrestling" section? Doesn't really illustrate anything from that section. I think it would make a lot more sense in the "World Wrestling Entertainment (2002–2005)" section in place of the blond Benjamin
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It really reads quite strangely to instantly go from the Haas brothers winning championships to "Russ died." I think there should be a paragraph split there, and the topic sentence for Russ' death should begin with the
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I think it's more suitable here, as it illustrates his valet and his tag team partner, both mentioned in the "World Wrestling Entertainment (2002–2005)" section, while only the valet is mentioned in the lower section.
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Awful lot of sources come straight from the wrestling companies where Haas worked. Obviously it would be inane of me to ask for a source attesting to the significance of WWE events, but something like source #5,
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Source as to the legitimacy of the accident? I'd hardly say wwe.com could accepted as reliable for it. If there isn't one, that's not a big deal, it's hardly significant whether the accident was legitimate or
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with Cryme Tyme. They continued to compete on Raw through the start of 2007, facing teams including John Cena and Shawn Michaels and Ric Flair and Carlito. In mid-2007, The World's Greatest Tag Team
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Why is a picture from 2007 used in the "World Wrestling Entertainment (2002–2005)" section? It wouldn't be such a big deal if Benjamin weren't blond and they weren't entering a ring with red ropes.
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I understand. Obviously you can't just not include that period of time like it didn't happen. I suppose it's rather like minor league baseball, which gets mentioned in bios of recent MLB players.
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I personally don't mind them, but non-formal phrases like "came up short" need to be avoided in encyclopedic writing. Also, is "Hardys" used as a team name here? It's listed as one on the article
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Yes, normally they do. Though they aren't supposed to be in italics since they weren't tv shows. They were just plain live events, which the MoS says nothing about.
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Well that is why we have a personnel life section. That mention is in the career section, so going more in depth would be leading away from the subject at hand.--
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I'm not sure - it'd be hard to say without doing some research really. I've removed them anyway, because I simply don't have time to research it right now. ♥
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As a friend of NiciVampireHeart, the nominator, I'll help take care of some of the problems since she has been pretty busy lately while she is not online.--
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N/A, further updates obviously necessary as the man's career progresses, but that's neither "rapidly unfolding" nor does it have a "definite endpoint."
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This article seems to say that the "World's Greatest Tag Team" moniker came about after they'd lost the WWE Tag Team Championship the second time -
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Looks like somewhat regular vandalism needs to be reverted...somewhat regularly, but that's the case with pretty much any article with eyes on it.
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standard usage in wrestler FA's and GA's? Not that I'm suggesting you should just use the jargon "heel," but I'd have been more expecting to see
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I placed it there because it shows Miss Jackie, his manager - and so tied in with the Managers section. I've moved it up per your suggestion. ♥
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To show The World's Greatest Tag Team - we don't have a good photo of the two of them together before 2007 unforunately. I've replaced it with
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I'd assume because they decided to reform the World's Greatest Tag Team, but I can't find a source for that so it's not in the article. ♥
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Thanks Will, but that's not necessary. I'll be able to get to these myself tomorrow evening as I expect to have a bit of free time. ♥
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the term search for its possible explanation elsewhere in the article (which is certainly something I do when reading articles).
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As a result of the legitimate accident, Haas began a scripted rivalry with Garcia's onetime storyline love interest Viscera.
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As a result of the legitimate accident, Haas began a scripted rivalry with Garcia's onetime storyline love interest Viscera.
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After that, Viscera and Haas became a tag team, competing on both Raw and Heat until splitting in December 2006.
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Either say why, or if the reason is just kayfabe, this sentence probably doesn't need to be included at all.
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Sure are a lot of redlinks in the "Independent circuit" section. Are they really all likely future articles?
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Any reason why? (not exactly a prose issue, but I don't know where else to put it). No huge deal if not.
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Yep, it should have been "The Hardys" - that's the name they used in 2007. I've fixed it accordingly. ♥
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they challenged the Hardys for the World Tag Team Championship in a ladder match but came up short.
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looks like it may have been cropped from something, so is it possible Benjamin's in that one?
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being separated when Benjamin was moved to the Raw brand as part of the 2004 Draft Lottery.
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In mid-2007, The World's Greatest Tag Team feuded briefly with the Hardy Boyz in storyline
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I've fixed all the consistency issues I believe, though I may have missed one or two. ♥
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better illustrates 2002-2005 in Haas' career than a picture from 2007 does.
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accepted as a synonym for "belt"? If not, this probably shouldn't be plural.
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Not striking the 'well done,' there just has to be some text next to the
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Thank you so much for the review and the pass. I really appreciate it. ♥
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and began a feud for the JAPW Heavyweight Championship with Jay Lethal
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Alrighty, I think I got everything. Thanks so much for the review. ♥
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she stated to the both of them that she wanted to be "just friends".
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above. I think it should probably be one or the other, and not both.
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this model, oughtn't "angle" be "storyline" or something like that.
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There are cleanup banners that are obviously still valid, including
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then? Or move the personal life section to earlier in the article?
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I don't think you necessarily need one. It might help the article
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Do the CZW shows themselves use the substandard capitalization
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Haas lost a match to Luther Reigns at the Great American Bash.
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Great captions. Just wanted to emphasize that the caption to
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Between the two sources I've added, this should be covered. ♥
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B. Images are provided where possible and appropriate, with
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There's work yet to be done, but I think it can get there.
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Now he truned face because drew mycintire attack him
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What keeps her up
03:30, 20 September 2009 (UTC)
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22:12, 20 September 2009 (UTC)
Alex finds herself awake at night

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