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Hello, I'm a annoynamous editer on wikipedia, but I will join up to help edit better. I recently was looking at and talk pages, and I saw how much there sub-topic articles needed work, and I figured that I could help write the Kodomo article, since no one was even talking about it. I clicked the
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There are no fillers at all in the manga, and just about every page is important to the plot. In addition, sometimes items will show up that seem unimportant and are quickly forgotten, but have enormous importance later in the story. If it were really aimed at small children with no attention span,
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for example), but it may refer to either the type of anime this article describes, or anime suitable for children in general (not just younger children), and it's not always clear which. The longest essay I could find on the subject is the
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article has a long discussion of 女児アニメ and suggests those shows as examples (among others). It has some OR problems, apparently, but even if we are to take it for granted that something like
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Hello. I started this article some time ago. If you look back, you will notice that the original text of the article was a simple definition of the word "Kodomo" (e.g. "child". While this beginning text has evolved into something quite different, you can see that it started off as a simple and
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No, you are the one claiming that it is something other then the demographic of the manga magazine it ran it. You are the one that has to provide a reliable source that the demographic is something other then the demographic of the manga magazine. Judging a manga by its content is
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As far as I know, there is no such thing as a "Kodomo manga magazine". Magazines serializing manga suitable for younger children still get classified as shōnen and shōjo. So by the logic we use to set the "demographic" tags, there may not be any "kodomo manga" at
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Firstly, I explained why I moved the article in my edit summary: "Anime and manga aimed towards this age range is more commonly referred to using the word kodomo." However, I am now unsure if that is the case, as I have no sources to back this up.
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Let's see how Pokémon, both the anime and manga, compare to the qualities this page states that kodomo has. "'Kodomo' works are noted for stories that are often very moralistic, teaching children how to behave as good and considerate people."
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The term for "children's anime" (etc.) is "kodomo-muke anime", which literally translates to "anime aimed at kids." I suppose if you do not have sources to back up how commonly it is used, we should wait before changing the article title per
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I don't remember seeing the term ever occurring in
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on the magazine in which it ran. Period. There is no room for discussion on this issue, and your continued refusal to accept that is becoming disruptive. Please stop now and try to be productive rather than disruptive.
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link to the kodomo page, and saw that the article leaves much to be desired. So, if you wikians don't mind, I'll set up a account, and write a draft for the page soon (november-ish). Here's my first citation link.
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