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these are significant factors and determinants of conservation efforts. Up until the year 1700, China was a country that was rampant with land reclamations, growing land exploitation, and wars. These series of events led to a huge upsurge in the diminishing of the natural biomass and as well as a reduction in spatial distribution of biotic resources. The significance of this situation was that this drastic dwindling of resources made the people of this region aware of the relationship between utilization and conservation. From 1911 to 1949, China began to move into the direction of modern industry, urbanization, civil wars, and agriculture. This transition period brought with it the depletion and disappearance of various renewable resources, as well as the pollution of various biotopes. This lack of conservation eventually led to a deteriorating environment, which meant lower standards of living for the Chinese population. This is the point when both the government and the people of China came to the epiphany that the environment matters. It was not until 1956 that modern nature conservation efforts begin to develop.
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that are known to cause serious problems for the Chinese giant salamander, but nothing temperature related. Unsurprisingly, the only citations for this section was an entirely unspecified "29" (nothing more; no author, year, title, anything!). I've now removed the repeats that belong elsewhere in the
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by Dai et al which was translated in 2011. It actually states the the estimates are much lower, with the population being approximately 50,000 being based off of surveys done between 1991-1997. I believe the new article author misread this data as modern (as of its publication in English in 2011) or
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To understand the conservation efforts in China, it is important to know something about the events of the several past hundred years of China's history relating to social attitudes, pressures on nature and natural resources, and the political ambition to safeguard the natural environment. Each of
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Back on 26-Oct-2012, the entry on iridovirus was made. No citations since, not even which strain. Can anyone find any citation for that entry and perhaps, a bit of a cleanup? The sentence 'This virus is carried in the bodies of vertebrates' doesn't do very much for explanation, compared perhaps to
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section there is this sentence "Registrations showed that 2.6 million Chinese giant salamanders were kept in farms in 2011 in Shaanxi alone, far surpassing the entire countrywide wild population estimated at less than 50,000 individuals". The cited source is a news article without citations, so I
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I don't know if those facilities are recorded in ISIS, but in 2008 there where also individuals in Cologne, Duisburg, DĂĽsseldorf, Berlin (Zoo) and Karlsruhe, the first two still exhibiting them. For other European facilities, present and past, see here:
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Most of this article is well-supported. However, much of what can be found in the subsections under "Decline in population" is messy, partially correct, partially incorrect, partially misplaced repeats, and with big parts lacking
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article (where already found with citations) and removed the incorrect info supported by non-existing citation "29". Now it's a short section, but at least the info is relevant to climate change and has citations.
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There is no contradiction: IUCN status and alike always rely on wild status. You can have many in captivity, but that is irrelevant to its wild status. It's the same with
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indidnt edit it because it includes some modifiers, but the Fort Worth Zoo also has a Chinese Giant Salamander. I took my family there last week and saw it.
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Apart from the obvious contradiction between its endangered status and "thousands" of breeding , the article is currently missing the vital information of
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The articles remaining subsections under "Decline in population" aren't as problematic, but they still have some serious issues. Most was added by
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I've now rewritten the "Climate change" subsection entirely. Of the three paragraphs, the first was a simplified repeat taken directly from the "
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as it gives a incorrectly inflated population estimate and predates the reclassification of several populations from the nominal
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The above is from the Conservation section. It seems to make several values judgement and the tone may not match guidelines.
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This error seems to have spread to multiple external sources, and could have dramatic implications for the conservation of
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__________ Needs section on use as food and relationship with conservation status. Also missing inline citations.
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the related Japanese giant, which lived in isolation on the Japanese islands). There are other diseases such as
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I say hold off on splitting anything until they actually formally name this mysterious third species
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Hello, I have attempted to make a distribution map for this species as requested. I used
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the entry on the viral family Iridoviridae, which is sensitive to thermal conditions.
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but not explaining the flavor is just begging for foreigners to join the market. —
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the chinese giant slamander is critically endangered and in most lands extinct!
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Please let me know if anything needs to be changed and I can update the map!
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got the data from a secondary erroneous source and should be discounted.
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