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Can anyone explain why the nazi's, who were mainly christian and were led by a christian dictator, would make such an effort to remove christianity from christmas?
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I think theres enough for a standalone here. It certaintly could be mentioned if its not already in the christmas article. Any other thoughts out there?
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