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919: 911: 540: 190: 169: 279: 258: 943: 378: 635: 1019:"I have been retired for seven years and I don't believe I have had a boring day in that entire period," Christl said. "I loved retirement, but researching Packers' history was my hobby. That's where I was spending a lot of my time. So, why not take advantage of all the information I've collected and preserve it and share it with others? That just seemed to make sense at this point in time in my life." 478: 454: 1103: 576: 889: 869: 858: 829: 818: 138: 21: 368: 347: 488: 1037:
Not sure how I missed the 1990s part, thought it was already in there. I have added it accordingly. If you have another ALT, I am happy to consider it. However, I do think documenting the Packers for over 30 years, even before he became historian, while accumulating over 250 oral histories (which are
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The "since the 1990s" part still needs to be added to the article too. Mulling it over, I'm not sure if the average reader has the context of whether 250 over a 30 year period is impressive or not. As an alternative, how about a hook of Christl coming out retirement after 7 yrs and already doing
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Ok, your prose changes satisfy ALT1. For the retirement alternative, it would be something roughly like "Cliff Christl was retired and researching the Green Bay Packers' history as a hobby before he was hired to be their historian?" The hobby part would need to be added to the
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can be misinterpretted that these were all while he was the team's historian. Also, there's no context in the bio about the 1990s period, to provide background on why he started accumulating these. —
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I could also add the ALT and ask for another reviewer, but your hook is interesting enough to defer to you as the nominator. Thanks for your patience.—
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The 250 count is from Christl himself, so it seems that it should be attributed to him. Perhaps something like "Cliff Christl
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team historian in 2014, estimated that he has recorded more than 250
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