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band, I think that would be fine. However, all I can see on their own
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themselves claim no allegiance to any particular place, playing most of their gigs in Europe in their current incarnation. It'd be false to claim they're really from NZ, given that only Neil Finn is from there, and for the blip of time Tim and Eddie in the band also. I think "band formed in
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over the years as he sees fit. They (he) have been resident in NZ for almost all their years, some 34 now, and Finn regards the band as a New
Zealand artist. They were mostly US based between the time he formed the band and his relocation back to New Zealand. Logic can be a very distant friend sometimes on wiki.
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Once again this problem has arisen with a contributor asserting that this is an "Australian - New
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Hi. The IP editor in question has agreed that the band should not be specifically described as a New
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The section on the new album states it will be ready in June (it is now out) but more troubling it suggests it would be ready for the band's appearance at the West Coast Blues and Roots
Festival in Perth. The Festival actually happened in February so while they may have been able to debut some of the
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Zealander in the band calls the band formed in Australia, that is two-thirds Australian, 'Australian', and says that many of their songs were inspired by Australia, then that should be enough, though I still think maybe the nationality debate should be mentioned somewhere if
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Crowded House being a New Zealand band - anonymous @ 122.57.177.86 can you tell us exactly what part of the article your argument is about? The article says that the band was ** formed ** in Melbourne and it says ** origin** Australia which can be confirmed in the
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What I'm suggesting is that, in the absence of any definitive description in reliable sources, we should omit any nationality labels from the leads of the relevant articles (there's another album article that says "Australian", and I think that should be removed too - I'll be happy to do so when we
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Melbourne in the earlier part of their career, but now are based in New Zealand. they formed after New Zealand band Split Enz disbanded. the band's frontman and songwriter Neil Finn is a New Zealander, and they refer to themselves as a New Zealand band. of course, the Aussies
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Again, the claim that they are an Australian band is absolutely absurd. Yes, they formed there because Finn was resident at the time as Split Enz fell apart, but they were always a vehicle for Finn’s music so the breakdown of members is largely irrelevant to this. Finn has hired and fired members
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Amen to that! The first paragraph says it all and in my view shouldn't be changed any more. Formed in AUS, led by someone from NZ, now made up of 1 NZ, 1 AUS and 2 USA. Time would be better spent adding new info (with citations) rather than fighting about nationality. At least no one has tried to
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Given that the band formed in Australia, it would be considered an Australian band, especially since the band's original rhythm section was Australian (i.e. Nick and Paul), and we consider anything to be of where it formed, not from where the sum of its parts came from. Having said that, the band
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the albums have been recorded in new zealand as well. i'm guessing, Zebedee, that you are an australian yourself hence your anti-New Zealand rhetoric. why else would they have premiered their new album in Auckland town hall in April of this year? the list goes on. the only austraian member of the
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that's find, if for wikipedia purposes, you want to keep their nationality covert, but as far as I'm concerned they are a New Zealand band. the frontman has said himself that they are a New Zealand band. I have just emailed his advisor to see what he says, so the jury is out in this one until he
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Well, the last.fm and lyricsfreak.com words seem to be a copy of your version of the Knowledge article after you added "New Zealand" to the lead, so I think we have to discount those (and neither is a reliable source, as both are user-generated). If the band describes themselves as a New Zealand
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not an Aussie or American band. a lot of their songs are about New Zealand, they previewed their new album here first, and they recorded it here in Neil Finn's studio. sure, they may have been initially based in Melbourne but they are based in NZ now and well & truly a kiwi band.
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are concluded here). It's too complex for a single label, and so a description in the body of the text saying where they were formed, the nationalities of the members, and where they are currently based (all of which can be supported with reliable sources), is a much better approach.
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with Neil Finn himself declaring them an Australian band whose songs were largely inspired by Melbourne. I suggest "Australian" since it's an official description from the leader of the band, but add a sourced note explaining the debate around their home country.
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are going to claim Crowded House their own. but the Aussies do that to anything relating to New Zealand: they claimed our pavlova, they even recently claimed the All White's magnificent draw with Italy as a victory for "Australasia", not New Zealand.
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the band with one specific nationality, and so I have removed the addition of "New Zealand" from the lead of this article - the article appears to describe the national origins of the band and its members quite adequately. Any comments? --
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I've been thinking about the best way we can incorporate nationality into the lead (and indeed, throughout the article). I think the best way to cover both origins would be to replace "Australian / New Zealand band" is to include
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I think part of the problem could be due to people getting Crowded House confused with Split Enz as most of the members of Split Enz are from New Zealand so it may be worth mentioning the next time someone changes the
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