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I pruned some of the Dan Peek info from the article yesterday - it has since been re-added. I'm not going to revert or anything, but just wanted to say that I think a lot of the particulars of his post-America recording activities belongs in the Dan Peek article itself (and not here, at least not to
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This is enough to provide them of double nationality of course, but not only... None of the members of
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LP should be considered Side One, so they came to a unique compromise. The sides would be labelled "Our Side" and "Their Side." The album's unusual cover photo, featuring a severed doll's head, does not have any special meaning. Bunnell recalled that he and
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Electro Voice and Crossover, and briefly mentioned his resurgence with PEACE and then as a soloist in 1999. But I haven't spent any time on the details of any of those projects, as that would be best expanded upon in the Dan Peek article. Thoughts?
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He flew home without meaning to? What is this meant to say? Normally, I'd just fix it when I find a wildly incorrect use of a word, but I don't understand the context. Perhaps it means what it says, but then it should have more context.
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I don't see why it's necessary to describe the band as "English-American." They are just American. If Peek, Bunnell and Beckley have English mothers, then say so. If the band was formed in England, say so. It doesn't make them "English."
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