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133: 77: 53: 22: 282:. How can Russell and Whitehead, or Quine, or Boolos, have thought that that was a good idea? From here it looks like a choice of terminology contemptuously designed to fight with any reader's intuition, but presumably they had some rationale for it. What was that rationale? 142: 123: 63: 402: 392: 117: 407: 397: 364:
relation as an example, but gave up when I could not find a clean formulation, or one that would not draw 'original research' flags. Perhaps someone else can do better.
412: 387: 192:, just as heirlooms are inherited from parent to child and from ancestor to descendant. And this metaphor is Frege's: where this article might say "Property 93: 84: 58: 254:
But notice that the genealogical relation at the basis of the metaphorical terminology has been turned around: the explanation of
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That choice (for what it's worth) was not Frege's: he defines no term that serves even approximately the same function as
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It would perhaps be helpful for some readers if the article could find a way to explain how it comes to be that the terms
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both use a genealogical metaphor, but apply it in opposite directions.
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It's also clear enough (after a little explanation), to say that if
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is derived from taking the transitive closure of the
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