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Should the rulers in this article follow the numbering or use the suffix "the Great". The article previously had inconsistent use of this with Darius I and Xerxes I in some places and Darius the Great and Xerxes the Great in some places. I have fixed this by replacing both with Darius I and Xerxes I
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I came here for an overview of why they declined. There's a very long retelling of the countless rebellions, palace coups, civil wars, without much overview or conclusion offered. So was it like a time of troubles? Did it contribute to the decline? Seems to lose forest for the trees a bit.
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A boring task, but the benefit of doing it is that you can set the dates !(e.g., why say Khufu lived 2589-2566? As long as you keep the length of his reign correct, or cite a respected source, you can date it 2590-2567 or 2585-2563)
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