Talk:Adygea - Knowledge (XXG)

1351:". Looking from another angle, nor is "Karelia" consistent with either "Altai", "Sakha", or "Komi", whose only similarity with "Karelia" is that they are the terms which conflict with the names of the corresponding Russian republics (as well as other concepts). The full names (such as the "Republic of Adygea"), on the other hand, are consistent not only within the subset of the republics, but within the whole set of the federal subjects of Russia, all of which are titled using full names. Which brings me back to the WP:NCCS' "it is useful..." clause. While it is possible to rename the articles about (most) republics to force their consistency with "Karelia" (no matter how artificial that kind of consistency will be); it is not possible to rename the articles about other types of federal subjects to achieve the same consistency. So, we can either have some articles use short titles and most articles use long titles (at the expense of consistency and precision), or we can have 180: 31: 91: 64: 1078:. I would like to clarify that when I speak about the consistency aspect, I mean the consistency of naming of the articles about all federal subjects of Russia, not consistency of the title choices in any other similar sets of articles (such as the US states or whole countries). The sets of articles are not expected to be consistent with one another in how they approach the titling issue, but consistency within a set 886:

that none of them is more "normal" than another. Just because one variant gets more gbook hits than another does not make the latter somehow inferior or incorrect; just less common. When that's the case, we might as well approach the whole set of titles consistently, and since the articles about most federal subjects (including some republics) can only be titled using their full names, why not do it for all of them?

233: 208: 22: 1677: 1119:, etc.); the remaining seventeen are all republics, and even for those seventeen the shorter names are often ambiguous with historical entities ("Adygea" may refer to both the modern Republic of Adygea and the Adyghe Autonomous Oblast, "Udmurtia"—to both the Udmurt Republic and the Udmurt ASSR, etc.). So, shorter names go against both the "consistency" and "precision" criteria of 521:

now explicitly says that the rank is within Russia (I had to make the detail lines smaller and replace "Russian Federation" with "Russia" (the names are equivalent anyway) in order to avoid widening the infobox in Firefox). I hope this addresses your concerns. Please let me know if you have any other suggestions for improving the infobox; I'd be more than happy to help. Best,—

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The longer title looks a lot more recognizable (to me at least), as long as we are talking about the modern federal subject—it's immediately clear what we are talking about and there is no need to guess. Indeed, the hitcounts above do not even prove that the modern entity is most commonly referred to

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On your second point, the "Karelia" case is not consistent with the "Adygea" case at all. "Karelia" is a well-established historical region (the "land of the Karelian peoples") while "Adygea" is a term that refers to the links in the chronological chain of political entities all of which date back to

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Ezhiki, you say I should not make it clear that the rankings are WITHIN the Russian Federation. You say someone can hold their cursor over the words "Rank". That's true, but I never thought of that and neither will lots of other people. It does not make the box wider as you implied, so I don't see

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more recognizable if we are talking primarily about all of the political entities known as "Adygea" in the past eighty years. The article in its present form, however, is intended to be primarily about the federal subject, hence the longer name is a better choice from the recognizability standpoint.

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Still, since this was obviously a problem to you, it probably means it might have been a problem to numerous others who just did not take time to let this be known. So, I had this issue fixed, but instead of adding the clarification to one federal subject's infobox, I modified the infobox itself—it

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The "routine dismissal" (or "established practice", if "dismissal" sounds too sensationalist) is best demonstrated by the lack of categories where the articles are named inconsistently for the same reasons as those presented here as arguments for shorter names. I simply don't see any arguments here

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On splitting the article, I fully agree with the principle. While articles about modern entities should contain a brief overview of history, the details do belong elsewhere. A split like that might also in some cases take care of the ambiguity (although not consistency) aspect of using the shorter

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I noticed the Russian pronunciation is marked as dubious. I don't speak Russian myself, but from what I know about Russian phonology, the spelling seems to indicate it's pronounced as /ʌdɨˈgʲejʌ/. Don't yell at me if I'm wrong: I'm not saying I have the phonology down pat. If anyone here speaks

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Kullandığınız "Adige Bayrağı İmajı" yanlıştır. Adige Bayrağı'nın, yay şeklinde sıralanmış 9 yıldız bölümünde her yıldızın arası eşit 18 derece açılıdır. Ayrıca okların formları (uçları, kalınlıkları vs.) farklı ölçülerdedir. Bu bayrak, sanıyorum 1940 yılına ait. Adige Bayrağı'nın özgün ölçülerine

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Yes, should this RM be successful (which by the looks of things it will be), the category will, of course, need to be populated using the redirects, but that would only address a part of the consistency concern (and a minor one at that). Only a small fraction of our readers will ever see the nice

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Regarding your first comment, you do have a point, but moving to shorter names would do little to address it. Multiple long forms are indeed possible, but so are multiple short forms (cf. "Adygea" vs. "Adygeya" vs. "Adigea"), and the fact that so many forms can be encountered in English indicates

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Finally, regarding your observation that it may not be immediately obvious to a naive reader that the article is about a republic within Russia, perhaps adding a header of some sort would help? So, instead of starting with the block listing the names of the republic in different languages, there

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Thanks for your friendly response. You're trying, but there are still problems. I'm using Firefox myself and I see no problem. Russia is not the Russian Federation. I think the infobox at the very top needs to make much clearer that it refers to a republic in the federation. For naive readers,

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article is supposed to be about the modern republic, and that is what it is about (and placed under the correct name, too). The only portion in this article which is not about the modern republic is the historical background (having which is perfectly normal). If anyone wants an article about an

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The result of the proposal was moved all. The competing rationale of consistency versus conciseness both make sense. However, I don't see any evidence that consistency in federal subjects of Russia is a formal guideline. Add to that the data on common name presented by pmanderson below and the

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Wow, that's fast. Thanks for your input. It shows you approve of the reduced vowels. The article on Russian Phonology uses different exact phones for the reduced vowel phoneme of /a/ and /o/, so I'll change my version to to be consistent. If someone can tweak it more, that's cool. If the

841:, so we don't use it). Also, for this article, that there are several versions of the long form (Republic of Adygea, Adyge Republic, Adyge Republic, Adyghe Republic); the present title does not appear to be the most common of these, and has no real claim to preference among them. 1549:

As far as the naturalness aspect goes, you are presenting it in the same light as you did with conciseness; essentially considering them the same but double-counting nevertheless. One could similarly argue that since the longer names are not "overly long" the conciseness factor is

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as "Adygea" and not as the "Republic of Adygea", because the results just aren't easy to separate that way; plus I would imagine some sources would introduce the federal subject by its proper full name and then refer to it by the short name thereafter, thus inflating the counts.

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may be called simply Mordovia, which is one my arguments against the move. Simply "Mordovia" is ambiguous, and no, its location has not really shifted in relation to Moscow :) It did change its status in the 1990s, though. Also, you, too, are not addressing the consistency

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the change, at least for this article and the Chuvash Republic; there is no evidence, but merely argument, against the change (and so for the present situation); since the present situation is recent, there never has been any evidence for it. Do look for yourself.

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As part of the consensus that wrote that paragraph, I do not believe it means what you suggest it means, and would appreciate an explanation of where you see "routine dismassal." I may know it too well to see whatever ambiguity you rely upon; guidelines should be

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previous pronunciation is south Russian or the one used specifically in Adygea, then we should be told that. I'm not sure if it should be specified in the article itself or here in discussion for us, but surely at least one or the other. Here goes the change (

1061:, and merely has a different form of government. This can be quite adequately pointed out in the History section, and a subarticle created if there is a need (or desire) to go into intricate detail about the history of the former government form. 1477:(namely, "conciseness"), while the longer names names improve two criteria (namely, "consistency" and "precision"). And since the longer names are neither unidiomatic nor otherwise inappropriate, there is no reason not to use them. To quote WP:AT, 1206:

consistent listing on the category page; the rest will stay in the article space where they will be left wondering why different federal subjects (and the republics) are named inconsistently (it is by no means obvious). That's the kind of thing

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in other similar cases. I don't see any proof that currently used longer names are either "a violation of idiom" or "otherwise inappropriate"; merely that they are slightly less common, and that's not usually enough to do away with consistency

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the area which has been called Adygea for the last eighty years and the federal subject created in 1991, the more common title addresses precision better. Therefore (but who's counting?), this is 4½-½, since both forms address consistency.

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Hi, Korky! Thanks for your comment. The wide infobox problem does not occur in IE and Opera; only in Firefox. I was unable to fix it, and neither was anyone else I asked, so for now we are trying to avoid widening the infobox whenever

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usually expected (just look at the artificial titles we use for much of royalty and nobility). Sixty-six out of eighty-three federal subjects are titled using their full names, because their shorter names are ambiguous and taken (cf.

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Adygea is sufficiently well defined that this article discusses its history; if that history is only a century old, it is still worth documenting (as we document the history and identity of the more artificial, and not much older,

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For (what is it? the fourth time?) I commend dealing with these concerns by splitting off a stub on the Republic as we already have a stub on the ASSR. I do not share them; similarly, I am not concerned with using a term like

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I speak Russian and only know enough IPA to be able to read it, and to me your version seems more correct. The one that's marked dubious sounds more Ukrainian than Russian, but that could also be dialectal, specific to south

404:"Adygeya" is simply a transliteration from Russian; "Adygea" is more of a conventional name in English. Neither is incorrect (and there is a great number of other alternatives as well), but conventional names are preferred.— 964:. I checked Mordovia in the news archive. Only one result in 30 is in the "Republic of Mordovia" format. Here are some examples: "courts would sentence Aleksandr I. Ginzburg to a 'death camp' in Mordovia, east of Moscow," ( 1191:; but there is a work-around. Put the category on the redirect from Republic of X, and it will show up on the category page; to avoid having the article in the same category, put an invisible comment in the cat section. 1505:

says, helps address recognizability and naturalness (indeed, those questions are why we prefer common names); the same policy commends titles which are "only as precise as necessary to identify the topic of the article

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Russian, please fix it and remove the dubious mark. If you speak Russian but don't know IPA, please respond to my post and I or someone else might be able to help. Also, why not find the Adyghe pronunciation too? (

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Im trying to get an accurate description of Adygea's demographics straight from the Russian gov but I can't read russian and the 2 different numbers on the wikipedia page are highly conflicting, can someone help me?

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names, too. However, I'm not sure how well a split would work for something like Adygea, seeing how the region is a part of the larger Cherkess heritage and was fleshed out fairly artificially during the Soviet era.—

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and the present Republic are pretty much the same place; we have articles on both). It is perhaps regrettable that the article on the Mordovian ASSR and the article on the federal subject as a state are both

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Since all five aspects are of equal value when it comes to choosing a title, we are supposed to pick the right balance. Sacrificing two for the sake of one just doesn't seem like the right balance to me.—

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I don't know what the deal with Firefox is; perhaps the issue was fixed in recent versions. I don't use Firefox myself, but the infobox widening problem was pointed out to me by at least two people who

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would first be an infobox-wide header stating "Federal subject of Russia" or some such. Do you think that'd help? It's pretty trivial to add, although I'm not sure what the visual impact would be.—

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I don't believe anyone is going to dispute these findings. Certainly not me. The argument against the move is that the shorter variants' being "more common" is only one of the criteria at

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addresses, by the way, and there are plenty of cases where Knowledge (XXG) uses longer (and sometimes even artificial) names for the sake of achieving overall precision and consistency.—

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That the article happens to contain a lot of historical information which could be moved to other articles is quite irrelevant, although I agree that doing so is ultimately necessary.

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Why are we using a map that includes Crimea as part of Russia, when the international community still considers it an illegally occupied territory still belonging to Ukraine?

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What does "Russia" vs. "Russian Federation" have to do with this? The two are equally official; Knowledge (XXG) uses "Russia" because it's more concise (and, unlike here,

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ambiguous... names for the article subject, as determined by reliable sources, are often avoided even though they may be more frequently used by reliable sources

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the present title but consistency, and that itself is largely inconsistent with our treatment of other subnational divisions. I await more.

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to refer to the modern state while while "knowing full well that it can with equal success be used to refer to the historical entities."

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As for the way the "rank" link is handled, it is pretty typical for this kind of infobox. Since the infobox refers to a federal subject

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Interesting way (not) to count :) Are you saying that "Republic of Adygea" is less recognizable than "Adygea"? And less natural, too?

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More importantly, perhaps, we are not considering "forced consistency" of any kind. There are two possible names for these articles;

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provision of WP:NCCS; and for Russia the prevailing (and in most cases, the only possible) format is "Name"+"Federal subject type".

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more common). With this article, we have additional precision and consistency concerns which no google hits can help resolve.—

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Consider conducting a poll regarding the name to be used as the encyclopedias do not seem to reflect the most common spelling.

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That's because, although not the same government, they are pretty much the same place (in the same sense that the

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One solution would be to divide the article: this article is largely about the region. A separate article on the

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to delete these "External links modified" talk page sections if they want to de-clutter talk pages, but see the

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at least twice as common as Udmurt Republic; and in this case, like Chuvashia, one does not include the other.

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t is useful for all divisions of the same type in the same country to share the same article title format

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As for the name, I see what you are trying to say, but please note that according to Article 1 of the

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Both of these are spellings for this Russian Republic. Here's some facts provided by

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I think that Adygeya is better variant. At the moment this is the only differ with

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alleged "historical region" called "Adygea", be my guest, create one in place of

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cases, I don't see why these shouldn't then follow the "common name" convention.

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it is not inconsistent with our treatment of other subnational divisions at all

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the problem with making the text clear without hovering over the words "Rank".

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t may be necessary to favor one or more of the principles... over the others

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a Soviet construct, which is a wholly artificial subset of the much bigger "

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and see what's good for including in the Politics section of the article?

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That is pretty much the distinction I support: the one between

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There is one valid concern: categories should be uniform, so

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Chuvashia is distinctly more common than the Chuvash Republic

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for additional information. I made the following changes:

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articles use long titles. The benefits should be obvious.—

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Possible information to add in on the discrimination issue

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The kind of evidence presented for the changes so far is

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more than ten times as common as Republic of Ingushetia.

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The following is a closed discussion of the proposal.

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Czechia is vastly less common than the Czech Republic

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