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use a more complicated formula). As minimum wage is considered 2.800.000 lei (96$ ), the poverty line considered by using this system is 1.400.000 lei/month or 48$ . The second system uses what we refer to as "Cosul Minim de Consum Lunar", that is the minimum requirements for decent living per month (it is considered underestimated anyway, both in terms of products and services), that is set to around 3.000.000 lei/person/month (I have no up-to-date info. on this - I may be rong). This usually result in very big differences between the results. A fellow student has made a poverty assessment for Romania using US and EU-member-country standards, and the results where staggering (if we would use Norwegian standards we would skyrocket to 75%). For poverty in Romania, consider the minimum wage is 2.800.000 lei, average wage is 7.800.000 lei before taxes and about 6.000.000 after taxes, a US$ is 29.000 lei, a kilo of meat 180.000 lei (a kilo is about 2 pounds for those who still use Imperial measurement systems), a kilo of potatoes 15.000 lei and my electricity bill was for November 600.000 lei. Thank you, yours truly, xanthar also known as 195.7.0.159 (I forgot to login). I am not shure how the World Bank calculates poverty levels.
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in luna iunie am fost condamnat pentru inversiune sexuala la 2 ani si 4 luni, eliberindu-ma pe data de 9 ianuarie 1975. In prezent, fac formele pentru pensionare medicala, fiind bolnav de diabet zaharat, epidimita, TBC si inceput de boala lui Parkinson. In limita sanatatii si posibilitatii am de gind - de comun acord cu conducerea Institutului - sa-mi public cele 3 carti ce trebuiau sa apara in 1973-1974 si sa-mi continui activitatea stiintifica prin colaborari la revistele de specialitate, cu studii, recenzii si articole istorice. Fiind intrebat despre relatiile mele anterioare, si anume: Radu Ionescu, Adrian Nastase, Negoitescu, Sorin Titel, Ion Dinescu, Alexandru Demetriad, precizez ca stiu despre ei ca sint pederasti, cu exceptia lui Sorin Titel, despre care nu am auzit niciodata ca ar practica aceasta boala. Aceasta imi este declaratia pe care o dau si o semnez. I.D. Suciu 21.II.1975"
1898:. It states "Bors Brasov Highway Is Being Built By Bechtel - Public Contract Evaluated at $ 2.5 billion granted without auction". On the other hand, with the subjugation of the media, you are free to check the following sources : US Ambassador's Speech to The Students of The Political Science Departament of The University Of Bucharest, pointing out this problem (I still have a copy of the speech transcript, you might find it on the net), or the media scandal at Evenimentul Zilei regarding its anti-PSD line, in October 2004. You can also check Antena 1's news scripts before and after its alliance with PSD. 181: 452: 335: 2008: 314: 119: 95: 345: 64: 230: 209: 240: 952:(continuing previous bullet point) "Biroului Permanent" is obviously not "Standing Committee" if there is only one of them. And while "asigura legătura Biroului Permanent cu..." is certainly literally "Assured linkage of the Permanent Bureau to (or, more literally, 'with')", it doesn't seem to mean anything clear. What exactly did he 1881:. For the most part, I haven't addressed POV, beyond inserting the word "alleged" in one place where it seemed clearly called for. Someone else may want to take a look at these edits, which were clearly by someone hostile to Nastase, and lacked any citations, but did seem to me reasonably close to what I believe to be the truth. -- 793:"Reglementari" in International Law. I assume "reglementari" here means "settlements" as in "settling out of court." If that's right, we still need to come up with the right English-language word, because "Settlements in International Law" sounds like it would have to do with something like Israeli settlements on the West Bank. 129: 1893:
I am sorry for being POV (Personally, I am Pro-Basescu, I admit it - I am a student in Political Science, but I admit I can't help myself on this matter). But I can give sources for the two statements. Highway construction right can be easily checked with Evenimentul Zilei, Academia Catavencu, o even
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The tone in which the section "Allegations of homosexuality" is written seems to me to give undue credence to the allegations. Corneliu Vadim Tudor claiming he has evidence of something but hasn't actually shown it does not strike me as a reason to believe it: he is not exactly famous for his honesty
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A lot of other relevant details are available if you read on. For example you can find evaluations of the economy. As I said there are other documents that give a lot of other details on what exactly was done. Given that a 5 minutes google search and 10 minutes of reading& browsing the documents
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OK, so you are saying that because there is an article were allegations are 50% of the article it is legitimate do so here too? I think I don't follow your logic. You know, there are articles that talk 70% about academic achivements of some person. Should we de the same here? I don't thing so. Maybe
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On poverty in Romania as this is disputed. I will only point out the two very different means used to assert poverty in Romania. The first of them, used by the National Institute for Statistics, was introduced in 2001? and consider the poverty line about half the minimum monthly wage / person (they
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I'm not sure what exactly you call "little information". Five minutes of browsing revealed at least 10 documents with sizes of about 500 pages. However a nice synthesis of what happened in the last year can be found in the beginning of the anual report of the european commision. Here are just a few
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And something else. The only important thing said about the prime-minister period is that economy has grown. I do not find this to be particularily informative since it implies a correlation (between him being prime-minister and economy evolution) that is not supported in any way. Much better would
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I'm sorry, but I still find the section regarding homosexuality to be incredibly offensive. While Nastase clearly has many faults, so what if he's gay or bisexual? And quite honestly, if he were open about it he could never be elected to office in modern-day Romania. The bombonel comment is akin
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Subsemnatul Suciu Ioan Dumitru, fiul lui Dumitru si Ofelia, nascut la 3 august 1917, de profesie scriitor - membru al Fondului Literar al Soc. Scriitorilor Români, domiciliat in Bucuresti, Str. Pompiliu Manoliu, nr. 13, sect. 3, declar urmatoarele: in anul 1973, luna februarie, am fost arestat, iar
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28.9% below the poverty line in 2002, the latest I can readily find. If that is comparable to Ioana Dan's 41.20 in 1999, it's quite a drop. And it probably is, since she cites the World Bank. I'd still like to have a source for the specific claim of 4 million during his term of office, but on what
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A text has a hierarchical structure (phrases, paragraphs, subsections, sections...) What you say is roughly valid at each level (just replace "subject" by "idea"). That doesn't mean that it is sane to start a new paragraph after each phrase, put a sub-heading before each paragraph or put a heading
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All Romanian names are usually written without diacritics in English-speaking world, but that doesn't mean that is the correct way. The same way it is rather common to write "Francois Mitterrand" instead of "François Mitterrand". However, Romanian diacriticals are even less used because unlike the
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The numbers are probably not far off. Poverty is generally in rural areas, especially of Moldova, Oltenia and Baragan. The difference is that after the visa changes it was much easier to get to work in the EU, so many of the poor people left to work in the EU (working at some low wages for the EU
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it helps if I rephrase the question. I think that an article about a person should accurately reflect one's personality. Do you think that corruption is such an important trait of AN? If so, then why? ("There are lots of allegations", doesn't qualify as an answer; I would prefer facts: see below.)
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It's as if there is an effort to drop everything that shows him in a human light or displays his actual involvement in parliamentary politics in any respect other than just the fact that he rose to the top of his party. Especially, if we are going to take a (well-deserved) shot at his writings on
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Nu il simpatizez pe Adrian Nastase dar articolul asta este scris ca si cum ar fi bagat la puscarie. Si apoi chestia cu homosexualitatea nu e in regula: 1. daca este, este problema lui si 2. felul cum este formulat textul lasa impresia ca homosexualitatea ar fi o chestie inspaimantatoare, ceea ce
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Comment: I'm new to this kind of discussion, so excuse me if I'm off topic. What do you mean that there is no evidence? As far as I know, the Romanian press covered this for days and they even showed the man on a stretcher with bandages and all. Is this discussion here implying it was a farce?
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One simple thing to do would be to remove the headlines under "Allegations...". A second-level headline for a three lines paragraph surely looks excesive to anyone neutral (say, someone who knows nothing about AN before reading the article): and this happens not once but several times in a raw.
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Simple, use a dictionary. Let's see what MW has to say. Alleging = "to assert without proof or before proving". Allegation = "an assertion unsupported and by implication regarded as unsupportable". Fact = "an actual occurrence; a thing done". If the difference is still not clear I'll be glad to
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I don't buy the argument that there is a controversy here in that Nastase attacked Basescu on the issue of gay rights and marriage. Basescu himself retreated on his comments made on MTV in support of gay marriage, and one year after DA led government there are still no plans for domestic
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I'd tend to want to use the World Bank numbers on this when possible because they are comparable across countries; any official national numbers are also useful. In either case, though, citation is important, because these are such easy things for someone to make up out of thin air. --
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I've erased "surpassing the number allowed by Romanian law." While the carnage was immoral in many respects, it took place on a private domain, owned and maintained by Ion Ţiriac. Private hunting domains do not fall under official regulations. It was immoral, but not illegal.
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Yes, I'm generally familiar with what's been going on with the Romanian press: hunger strikes, protests and all. As I said, what you wrote was "reasonably close to what I believe to be the truth": I'm not questioning your basic facts, just the tone. By the way, it is
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partnership. I imagine there will be a lot of additions to this article in coming days following the indictment on the Zambachian property. As these things are added, I urge that the homosexuality section be deleted. Or if others agree, I will remove this myself.
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To further clarify my opinion about facts I'd like to add that information about the content of articles published by him before 1989 is very appropriate for the content of the article (although it looks that the choice of presented articles is biased too).
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And on the other hand some of them seem to mentioned just because they are "fun". For example the homosexuality allegation reads like: "Ever since 1990 there are rumors that he is homosexual... But those were started by a guy not to be trusted".
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Organized the relationships of the Standing Bureau with the following permanent commissions: Judicial Commission, Commission on Discipline and (Parliamentary) Immunity, Commission for Foreign Politics, Commission for Culture, Art, and Mass Media
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Certainly not a trustworthy source. Still, more recent World Bank numbers (at least through 2003) should be available, even if not yet on line, and we should be able to find and cite those along with his claims reported accurately as
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Also, does "desfăşurate" refer to activities in general or specifically to proselytizing? Or specifically to something else entirely? And this could really use a context. What was going on that there would be such a
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Given that "Raportor al Comisiei parlamentare..." for one item (the cult thing) turned out to be Council of Europe, not Romanian parliament, is it possible that some of the following are also Council of Europe?
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Whose numbers? If this is something authoritative, it certainly merits mention, that would be about 17% of the population. There was no citation, so I was wondering if this might be pulled out of thin air. --
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There is NO evidence that Nastase's suicide attempt took place. In the Austrian, Swiss and German Press ( print and online) the rising doubts regarding this attempt are very well documented and recherched:
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A text is currently circulating on the Internet, allegedly a statement made to the Miliţie (Police) by a writer and history professor. In it, professor Suciu testifies his own homosexuality and names other
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Quote Spiegel Online: "Um der Haft zu entgehen, inszenierte Nastase einen theatralischen Selbstmordversuch, was ihm jedoch nur einige Tage Aufschub verschaffte - inzwischen sitzt er im Gefängnis."
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in 2004, the National Bank (whose leadership was replaced with PSD members, such as Florin Georgescu) failed to intervine in the appreciation of the leu, which affected strongly Romanian exports.
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These next three are a bit problematic, because we never properly worked out whether these relate to the Romanian parliament or to an organization of European parliamentarians. I'd be inclined
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before each sub-heading. It is just bad style. Oh, and about the Manual of Style, here is a quote: "Avoid overuse of sub-headings". If this article doesn't overuse them I don't know what does.
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newspaper article, Geoană admitted that the transcripts were genuine, period; not that "parts of it seem to be genuine". A link to a statement of Mr. Geoana on this matter would be welcome.
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You should note that, in contrast, articles about other romanian politicians (most notably Traian Basescu) contain _no_ information about corruption allegation... although they do exist. --
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I hope someone who specializes in politics / sociology would take time to improve the current mess (that means, not me and... no, writing software for organizing mp3s doesn't qualify). --
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revealed a LOT of information (of which the above is only a small excrept) I find the reason you provided for not giving facts (i.e. "his site has little information") to be ridiculuous.
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On a similar note, as I distributed these sentences to appropriate paragraphs and cut some pure POV, I was wondering enough about the following to bring it here instead for discussion:
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is about? In any case, we cannot start by mentioning only one highway and then at the end of the paragraph refer to "both highways". This needs to be sorted out. -
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I see Bogdan disagrees with one of the recently anonymously added statements; I suggest he make the minor edit needed to correct it, since it is close to accurate.
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Should we add {{wrongtitle|title=Adrian Năstase}}? Or is he well enough known in the English-speaking world by this slightly wrong spelling that the title
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We're getting nowhere by arguing. If you want, you may edit article yourself and if you dispute any affirmation already written, I'm ready to back it up.
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there are initiatives for police modernization, improving life-quality for persons with handicaps, reduction of social exclusion, improving social dialog
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Do you really think that it is neutral to talk in 30% of the article about corruption allegations and make the contest look like they are actualy 50%?
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human rights in the Communist era, we should show his generally positive post-'89 involvement in this area. I'm not a fan, but we should be evenhanded.
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ideas (much more specific than those listed above: "negotiations".. what's that? you mean they talked? how interesting.. WHAT did they talked about?):
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Recording Secretary of Council of Europe commission on judicial problems and human rights with reference to illegal activities by religious sects
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I'm inclined to restore all of this material in one or another form, unless someone can give a good argument in the next 24 hours why it should
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So do you think we should put it back in the article? If the number in poverty has gone down, it really would be quite an achievement, because
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so the tranlation I gave is on the mark. This could still really use a context. What was going on that there would be such a commission? -JM
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It seems to me that the article is turning into a bit of a hatchet job. It's not just what's been added, it's what's been removed, to wit:
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I looked on the internet, but I found that "The AIPLF (International Association of Francophone Parliamentarians) was founded in 1967."
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Concepţii şi controverse în domeniul drepturilor omului, în viitorul social. revista Academiei Ştefan Gheorghiu, jan-feb 1983, pg. 45-50
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To escape the arrest, Nastase staged a theatrical suicide attempt, which gave him only a few days' delay - now he is in prison'
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I also added the facts about Ion Ţiriac because I think it broadens the perspective. Năstase is not alone in what he does...
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be to give a list of actual things he done (i.e. law A, law B, etc..) and, if deemed important, things he hadn't done.
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A rumour can be true or not true. However, these allegations are pretty well-known in Romania and deserve mentioning.
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1996 - Member of the Romanian parliamentary delegation to the gathering of parliamentarians of the Council of Europe
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Nastase's site has little information on his government's achievements. However here's in brief what could be said:
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I thought that's not really that important. The Romanian Parliament appears to have lots of these 'friends' groups
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The source is, probably, Adiran Nastase's electoral speeches which can hardly be called a 'turstworthy' source. --
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President of parliamentary group "Friends of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland" 1992-1996.
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to delete these "External links modified" talk page sections if they want to de-clutter talk pages, but see the
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Under the four years of his term all visa restrictions with the European western countries have been lifted.
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homosexuals, Năstase among them. I've added a mention to it in the article, with the appropriate remark.
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For one thing they are "allegations", not facts; and I think wikipedia should _concentrate_ on facts.
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I think it could be the Romanian parliament. <comments at this level of indent are responses by <
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Not true. For example, Romanians still need visa to enter UK, which is a European western countries.
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the government had no coherent agricultural policy -- however, no government since 1989 had one.
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Nice, you are laughing when thinking about mineriads. That gives your POV a lot of credibility.
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or of the press? From everything I here, the latter is more of an issue than the former. --
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the anti-corruption legal framework is now relatively well developed; it is not well applied
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This is a tough one to translate; I could use some help. Here are the known open issues:
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https://web.archive.org/web/20041207004921/http://www.politic.ro:80/adriannastase.php
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a lot easier if you indicate your sources in the article when you add material (see
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the ex-pro-Nastase Jurnalul National magazine,or even with Bechtel. Check this out
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So do you think we should take the "wrongtitle" mark off of all of these, such as
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Thanks, Bogdan, you seem to have restored the most substantive parts of this. --
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1996 - Founding member of International Assembly of Francophone Parliamentarians
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standard, but high on the Romanian standard) and brought money in the country.
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interview in the "Komsomolskaya Pravda" of 25 November, 1989, as quoted by
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1996 - Vice-president of Chamber of Deputies, member of Standing Bureau.
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but several party members, including Foreign Minister and PM candidate
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As I said, this was a tough one. Any help will be appreciated. --
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This is vague, could you expand? Is this an issue of freedom of
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That is the negation of a tautology. See the definitions again.
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By "justition" do you mean "judicial"? or something else? --
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How can you distinguish between a fact and an allegation ?
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to restore these unless we can get better citations.
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I'll leave it for now; does someone know more? - JM
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