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What's with the theology section of this article? The book mention seems appropriate for the "Career" section if it's notable at all while his statement about the motivation for his work relating to anthropology seems like an obvious, if somewhat unimportant, point to go in the "Anthropology" section
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we should take the time to get this right. If there are a multitude of reliable sources calling him far-right in their own voice, I'd push for a wiki-voice label. I don't think that's the case. Part of the disputed material is analysis and quotes of one of his books cited only to the primary source.
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the whole article reads like a self praising LinkedIn portfolio. It's ridiculous. His religious zealousness mixed with evangelical anti-communism should already be a major red flag for everybody. đźš© He has almost zero scientific impact in social sciences with no citations. The math related to the
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Knowledge is famous for providing general information with a neutral tone. However, this article lacks arguments opposing the main layout, which leads one to think that it is not impartial at all. I request the editors to take a look on the opposite side and provide some critique. Otherwise, the
988:- The biography of Adrian Zenz; - His personal beliefs; - His attitude towards Chinese; - His work with the think-tank in W,CD; - The reputation of that think-tank; - The other side story; - The Xinjiang - proofs; - The independent researchers and journalists based in Xinjiang. 804: 783: 1089:"genocide" doesn't pass any serious statistical analysis. It's such a pity what Knowledge has become. US 🇺🇸 paid agitators are allowed to control de narrative and throw any dissidents to the cleaners with reckless sinophobia. 1486: 1388:
We can easily address your co-author remark by adding, "According to Zenz and co-author Silas..." if you really think it's necessary. Is there any evidence Zenz has disclaimed that part of his co-authored text?
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Then we can say "according to", but if it is only one source not in the lede (which is summary of the important bits of our article, and one line is not "important bits of our article").
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Yeah, this absolutely shouldn't be included. We should be strict on that sort of label at the best of times, but if it's referencing a deprecated source then it's clear-cut to me. —
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The source you've added does not describe Zenz in its own voice as far-right, but instead says that he has been described that way. And he has, for example by
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Then we might be able to say that, "he has been called...". But as I said I do not think once source would be enough for the lede, and (I will add) might be
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I agree that the first 4 items on the list should go into there, but the 4 other items are not directly related to Adrian Zenz, so they should
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instead. For that matter it's silly that there's even a separate "Anthropology" section given it's just more description of his career.
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Adrian Zenz is known for his expertise on Western China... not for his theology nor his belief that the composition of the
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reflects the the post-WWII world order. If this particular thing is something for which he is well-known, you should be
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of the material, but I want to start a discussion her about it if I was unclear with what I meant in my edit summary. —
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Agree- this appears to be a very one-sided presentation about Zenz. Suggest reference is made to the following article
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Unless these topics are covered, the article cannot be in free access, as it advocates one-sided arguments. Thank You
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and the repeated restoration of the "far-right" descriptor is in violation of this restriction. Please self-revert. —
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I don't see your point as to why it's a minor aspect of Zenz. He's largely known for his analysis of world events.
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article claims for no-ethics based analysis. The sections to pay attention to:
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Oh, but what you wrote was you didn't see why it should be a "whole section."
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Then that would have been a better objection, the source is not an RS.
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in the article. Additionally, please note that this article is under
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able to show reliable secondary sources that talk about this. —
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Sourcing "geopolitical analysis" from 2014 book w/Silas
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