Talk:Alan Mcilwraith - Knowledge (XXG)

2329:. I feel it's also worth mentioning that Mcilwraith created the article about himself specifically so he could achieve recognition and notoriety, and his later activities show this to be a major part of his personality disorder. By keeping the article about him, we are not necessarily shaming him (which is itself not a valid reason to keep an article), but rather playing right into his hands. Any attention is good attention to someone like this. I would like to have a discussion about this before I recommend the article for deletion. 264: 243: 364: 343: 374: 173: 155: 124: 21: 2374:. I have already had several articles about military phonies successfully deleted this month because they fail notability, including those that, unlike Mcilwraith, were convicted in course of law for there deceptions. I'm not defending these individuals, but rather attempting to uphold the policies of this wiki. Knowledge (XXG) is not a 183: 538: 657:

gives the impression we only pulled it after they noticed. Yes, they actually stopped him - it never occured to me that someone would try to pull such a weak fake in real life, rather than just over the safety of the internet, and in that I congratulate them. But why pretend that we only just noticed?

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User Cola4 has edited this article several times in a way that is essentially vandalism. The article on Alan Mcilwraith is serious and necessary due to the amount of media coverage that the case has received. Hopefully it will not be necessary to block Cola4's IP address. This should be done if the

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For a while now there has been folk wasting time reverting there and back again with an external link... No Knowledge (XXG) article should be more external links than content - and this article was 14 external links to 7 lines of content (YMMV). I have trimmed this down to 2 external links. If any of

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It might be 100% accurate technically, but it is also very easy to read incorrect inferrences. They say "The entry has now been pulled from Knowledge (XXG)" when they should say "the entry was pulled from Knowledge (XXG) six months ago, and was only up for five days". Very different connotations - it

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I don't think the vandalism has reached the point where it's necessary to semi-protect the article. We appear to have one rather obnoxious anonymous user editing from 75.24.* but that's about it as far as serious vandalism is concerned. I suggest we leave it a day or two longer to see if the problem

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This article had no history until it was unprotected and therefore the Guardian and others didn't have access to the information we do now, with Average Earthman spotting the original hoax within a few days; hence the problem came out of the way the article had been protected to hide its history, ie

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Dunno why it hit the news today - from the Daily Record articles, it looks like he annoyed his co-workers to the point they started digging themselves. But it's actually a pretty good example of how Knowledge (XXG) deals with hoaxes - patiently and carefully the first time, less patiently the second

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states that "Friends set up a Knowledge (XXG) page" about him: while it's plausible that these "friends" are, in fact, Mcilwraith himself, does the assertion that "Mcilwraith created a Knowledge (XXG) article about himself on 5 October 2005" need to be changed to something like "On 5 October 2005 a

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Why slag off the Daily Record? How many Internet users would do a search on a Sir Alan Mcilwraith when the original entry was live? You guys only deleted a fake entry. Well done, but Knowledge (XXG) does this everyday. A Knowledge (XXG) fake yes. However would anyone have known how far he went with

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Which is not the same as a speedy. it clearly doesn't meet the requirements for a speedy. You have the freedom to put an Afd on the article, though I for one would strongly oppose. Why not try to improve the article as the state of the sarticle should not be a factor in the Afd, what counts is his

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It was claimed he wrote the wikipedia article to bolster his position. Yet it may well have been that this whole thing started when he developed what was basically a vanity article about himself (and we have hundreds of those a week) and until we can source that the fraud came before the wikipedia

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Agreed - as long as Alan Mcilwraith isn't allowed to write it this time ;) . Not only is it a notable example of fakery (real live Walter Mittys) but it is interesting from a Knowledge (XXG) point of view as he tried to use it to forge his history and I think that angle needs exploring and I think

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Guys, Alan had a 2nd entry in Feb 2006 I believe, which was similar to the October 2005 entry. Nobody who worked with him knew about the original entry that contained the UN Speech, the apparent intervention to stop an act of terrorism in London and last but not least the Sandhurst yarn about the

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This should be kept up as it resulted in exposing two jokes for the price of one - McIlwraith, but also the Daily Retard, who tried to pass off as an "exclusive" something that's been available to all for free over the last 6 months. It's typical of that rag, fleecing others work off the net &

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of the section quoting Mcilwraith's Knowledge (XXG) page. I find these edits to be a bit unhelpful, as the first is removing sourced content, and the second removes what the article is about. Would anyone mind if I restored the version before these revisions? I would re-add the constructive edits

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The "celebrities" categories are the standard Knowledge (XXG) cats for people who just do not fit into any other "occupation" categories, as is the case with Mcilwraith. I do not think that we should be making policy on the hoof on this one article: if people have concerns about the naming of all

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It is a pity that some people are still trying to get this article removed. Alan Mcilwraith is worth a brief Knowledge (XXG) article due the amount of media coverage that the case has received, and also because a hoax Knowledge (XXG) article was involved at one point. This article has survived a

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After a look through the early page history of the article, it became clear that the saga was not confined to a few edits in October 2005. The article was online for most of December 2005, and was still available after requests for speedy deletion in February 2006, when a template protected the

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Regardless of what some people think of the Daily Record, their information was 100% accurate in this case. If he wasn't rumbled by the press, Sir Alan would have continued his creepy life and who knows where it would end? If Dell or any of his employers in the past found out, he would have been

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were by Mcilwraith, and for this reason I have removed the infobox at the top of the talk page saying that Mcilwraith edited the article only twice, since the revision history between October 2005 and February 2006 shows that this is clearly not the case. The saga began on 4 October 2005, when

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He put it up at 10:53 and it was marked as nonsense at 10:55. That isn't exactly a huge amount of time. He must have put it up and printed it out immediately. If they'd looked him up on Knowledge (XXG) they'd have seen he thought he was a fake (or at least wondered why the article was no longer

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No, I just do not accept that: he ought to be in one of the Scottish occupation cats, not just the one for where he was born. The occupation cats are the principal method of categorising people here at Knowledge (XXG), the place of birth cats are subsidiary. If people have a problem with the

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I know it's naughty, but I checked his payroll entry at BT (I work for a 3rd party) and it was unusual. Shows him not living in glasgow. Why did he tell BT he lived in #######? Mum's address. Sorry, can't recall his date of birth, just wanted to see if he was down as "sir" and change it!

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Alan McIlwraith is a complete hoaxer, but he is now a famous hoaxer, since he's featured in national newspapers. Should his fame (or infamy) entitle him to a wikipedia page, or should it be suppressed because he's an idiot? I don't have an answer, just throwing it out for conjecture.

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Individuals should not be included in this category unless they do not fit into another occupational category. Disclaimer: This category may inappropriately label persons. See Knowledge (XXG):categorization of people for advice on how to apply categorization to articles relating to

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The Daily Record did have an exclusive because look at the amount of stories from people who worked with this head case or encountered them. It is a sad state of affairs that he was allowed to go about doing this, with his employers not checking out his background.

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The original retouched version was done by me and maybe it was too bright. I have done a new version which removes some of the murk while retaining the basic feel of the original photo. The copyright is not an issue since the tag now clearly states that it is

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so the newspaper reported hoax could be described with the history restored the next day. Before the newspapers had run the story, it could have been read for 21 days in October, 3 days in December and 7 hours in February. 16:50, 13 December 2007 (UTC)

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The current version of the article doesn't meet CSD criteria as far as I can tell. The contents appear accurate and the press url's speak toward notability. I don't know if the article should stay but I think it needs to be decided through another AfD.

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Most of the article is created from newspaper material that was available when the story broke in 2006. There are no major problems with the accuracy of the article, but some tweaking to the references and the addition of inline citations would help.

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How do we know it was McIlwraith himself who authored the initial wiki entry? Has he admitted to being "MillitaryPro"? I understood from newspapers interviews MacIlwraith was claiming a "friend" (aherm) had written the entry. Did I get this wrong?

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on 20 October; deleted on 26 October; recreated on 21 December 2005; deleted again on 24 December; created yet again on 17 February 2006 at 10:53; marked for deletion at 10:55; text removed by its author at 11:00; and the blank page deleted at 16:19.

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It is a fact of internet life that links to online newspaper articles often expire after a certain period of time. Fortunately there are enough remaining links to verify most of the material, and I will create some inline citations as time permits.

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Please note that the spelling in the section in quote marks contains the exact text of Alan Mcilwraith's original Knowledge (XXG) entry, including the spelling mistakes. The article points this out, and there is an HTML comment as well. The word

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Someone has added a quite detailed descrption of the military uniform that Alan Mcilwraith is wearing in the photograph. Not being a military expert, I am not in a position to comment on how accurate it is, but any other comments on this would be

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There is confusion, as is common with such Scottish names. The original Knowledge (XXG) autobiography had Mcilwraith, while the Daily Record had McIlwraith. So I prefer the former as being a more direct source, but there is no certainty.

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article from recreation. Although the initial suspicions emerged after five days, it would have been possible to read the article for a considerably longer period. This is important and the current article should make this clear. --

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Nothing wrong with referencing a high-quality blog, e.g. mine. I didn't put it in the article itself 'cos it's mine, but if you think it's worthwhile (I think it gives info not commonly available anywhere else), please do put it in -

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This is an interesting point, but unless Alan Mcilwraith specifically denies having written the October 5 2005 entry and someone else comes forward and claims to have written it, it will have to be assumed that he wrote it himself.

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I wonder when McIlwraith's exclusive interview will appear in the Record? He shouldn't talk for less than £10k. He'll need the money now Dell have instituted a shoot-to-kill policy should he be spotted on the premises.

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faces. I didnt rumble him to the press, however from my sources nobody knew about the Oct 2005 entry. Alan showed off the Feb 2006 entry at the call centre. So whoever rumbled him must have shown that entry to the paper.

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and its accompanying talk page, it might help if the pages were semi-protected for a while. This would be a pity for serious users, but it is becoming tiring to keep having to remove vandalism from these two pages. See

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I think it's a better idea to misout the category - Alan Mcilwraith is not a celeb under any meaning of the word! IF you stopped 50 people in Glasgow and 50 in Edinburgh, how many do you think could tell you who he is?

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I don't know if he's actually broken the law or is just sad and delusional. I'm also not sure if he's notable enough for an article yet. But I've just been answering a press inquiry about the matter, so we'll see ... -

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As for who was sat at the keyboard and tapping the keys at the time, Knowledge (XXG) doesn't know and quite likely the newspapers don't either. Some sources said that Mcilwraith created the article himself, but

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There is still confusion over whether the name is spelled Mcilwraith or McIlwraith. Media coverage has given both spellings, and the Knowledge (XXG) article contains both spellings, which is unsatisfactory.--

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I still don't buy it, and certainly don't have the stomach to tackle the "big problem" :) If someone is not well known for their profession then it makes no sense to categorise them under a profession.

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He probably deserves a mention now for his infamy,as he's mentioned in the papers etc. Just a brief footnote, nothing more. Is it possible to read the own self-indulgent article just for giggles?

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This is revisiting old territory. The article has survived several requests for deletion, since it is a notable story in its own right, with widespread coverage in the mainstream UK media.--

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etc) which I've been blocking each time they appear. He's now editing anonymously from his ISP (BT Broadband). I've semi-protected the article to put a stop to this ongoing stupidity. --

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It's been nearly 10 years since the main matter of this article occurred, and 6 since there has been any mention of him in the news. I fail to see why Mcilwraith is considered

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He is wearing the number 2 dress uniform of the Royal Highland Fusiliers, while the diced band pattern around the Glengarry is specific to the Argyll and Sutherland Highlanders.

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He is not the first and only one. I wonder if anyone has tried to check if anyone of those who have tried to have this article deleted might have been Mcilwraith himself? -

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it was wikipedia's fault and not that of the newspapers. If they'd had the info we have now but which had been hidden the press articles would have looked very different,

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Is there no way we can put this on the page? I know it is a blog but David is our most famous UK wikipedian, perhaps if there were consensus we could put it up,

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The press uncovered a man with serious problems, beyond the normal realms of fantasisers. The public had a right to know, especially those that worked with him.

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On another note, I have removed this description of the military uniform that Mcilwraith is wearing in the photograph that he uploaded to Knowledge (XXG):

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Ok, certainly better than the first retouch. I have added an explicit source to the retouched image plus removed the PD tag. The image is not PD. Thanks/

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OK, I've now listed this twice for speedy deletion. Can't list for AfD, as the old AfD is still in existence. Please look at the deletion record and the

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where he's claiming that the whole episode stemmed from a knock on the head. Someone may want to integrate some of the information into the article. --

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A mirror of the original article still exists on Nationmaster. Was the Wiki entry as replete with spelling errors and poor punctuation as this one?

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Yes, that is understood. The tag is a direction for improvement. However, as said, if some material came exclusively from now dead links, then that

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Please stop vandalising the article. Mcilwraith's claims about himself are central to the controversy, so of course they have to be mentioned. --

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I don't think it's Mcilwraith himself. It seems to be some idiot who wants it to be deleted - he's gone through numerous sockpuppet accounts (

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Though I'm not sure we can take the DoB as gospel, given that he's lied about everything else. He'd be a bit of an old looking 28 year old.

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Although I've taken a look through the various AfD discussions, I can't find any evidence that the original page was created by Mcilwraith.

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Mcilwraith created a Knowledge (XXG) article about himself on 5 October 2005. The article was created under the username "MilitaryPro"

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I have now removed the speedy. Put an Afd on it, this is not a speedy candidate as this article is not apt for deletion without debate,

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This article was started on 5 October 2005; spotted as a hoax with verification requested on 10 October; listed for deletion debate at

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This may be true, but it needs to be reviewed by someone who is an expert on Scottish military uniforms, or it could be unreliable. --

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Could someone please clarify the copyright status on the image of Alan Mcilwraith? The image was uploaded by Mcilwraith himself. --

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Yes. The entry details a journalists enquiry to a wikipedia contact and his response. Although possibly my opinion may be biased.

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Good find. I'm unsure how unusual this would be but perhaps it might be worth grabbing that and putting it into a sub-entry, e.g.

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And another newspaper gets it wrong. Why can't any of them tell the truth - Knowledge (XXG) noticed he was a fake months ago!

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Alas, I don't really know how to create sub-entries, but I agree the original article is so sublime it warrants inclusion.

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with the Impostors category - the other examples there show that this kind of thing is notable enough to warrant an entry. (

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This person is not notable as a person and the article title should properly identify that. There is precedent for this at

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says that his friends did it because they were in on the joke. Nobody really knows, and the wording should reflect this.--

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trying to pass it off as original. Any day now there will be an "Elvis is dead EXCLUSIVE!" headline from them - 14/4/2006

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Good job on Wiki, getting rid of Natos hero...never mind these are bound to slip through the cracks from time to time!

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It's interesting, and I've given this some thought in the past. What we do know for a fact is that the article was

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He is an insult to anyone who died in conflict, and he abused the good work of several charities for his own ends.

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Knowledge (XXG):Articles for deletion/Caspian James Crichton-Stuart IV (Joshua Adam Gardner), 5th Duke of Cleveland

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Some also made me suspect that they might have been Mcilwraight himself, eager to remove signs of his imposture -

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Article is still up on Nationmaster. Does anyone else think McIlwraith looks a bit like David "Dr Who" Tennant?

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to delete these "External links modified" talk page sections if they want to de-clutter talk pages, but see the

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I think I'll stay out of this one. I'm not going to put up an afd nom. I just think it shouldn't be deleted

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above. The exact authorship of the article was questioned soon after it was created. Some edits were made by

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Thanks for your comment. The article was created at 18:28 GMT on 5 October 2005, and this edit can be read

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time, tagged for speedy within two minutes of creation the third time ;-) See the Daily Record articles:

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the rest are essential then consider adding them as references (to specific points in the text). Thanks/

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on Knowledge (XXG). If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join

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these cats then take the whole bunch to CfD for discussion as to a better name. Here they all are:

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Although if some of the content was only referenced from now dead links, that is also a problem.

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as there are a lot of people described as Walter Mitty-like. This new entry should be added into

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Notability of the hoax is now very well established - I think its time it had its own article. --

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full debate about its merit and registered Knowledge (XXG) users should abide by the decision.--

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enough to warrant an article, when he is not only a fraud but it seems the news has long since

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So he tried to recreate the article twice more?? How's that for persistence!! What a numpty.

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Sourcing is not enough for biographical articles, per policy. It has to follow the rules of

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Have I gone COMPLETELY bonkers or has this article been reverted to the original gem again??

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I presume it's in lieu of Scotland having any real celebrities? *runs away and hides* ;-) --

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Basically, it is a cat for people who do not fit into any of the other occupation cats, see

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from the newspaper articles mentioned. Unfortunately some of the links are now dead due to

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That might be the case, but I think we're over categorising here. Mcilwraith is already in

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OK cool as I was posting it came back up so I've added in the category and linked in from

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Mcilwraith is not a reliable source about himself. All his claims have been deleted. --

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But if he was rumbled as far back as October, why is it only making the papers today?

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in this section, but this is intentional, so if it is changed it will be reverted. --

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I'd have to agree. Perhaps we should have a "Notorious Scottish people" category? --

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Knowledge (XXG) article was created, either by Mcilwraith or someone close to him"?

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This article was speedy deleted 9 times, I'm sure I nominated a couple of those. --

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Why is McIlwraith considered a Scottish celebrity according to the categories box?

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I would vote oppose to deletion. There is enough sourcing for him to be notable.--

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The Dialy Record links are the story. Dump the rest if you need to. --

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Oh, this is such a goodie. Frontpage news in the Daily Retard today.

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sacked which then Alan could go somewhere else and continue the fraud.

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for another, more unpleasant one - we spotted that fake in May 2005

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The spelling in Alan Mcilwraith's self-penned Knowledge (XXG) entry

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those cats are specifically designed for people like Mcilwraith

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Nationmaster is notoriously bad at updating. Those bastards.

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notability and there are clearly less notable people here,

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Wahey! The new article has gone live. Fame at last, Alan!

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for additional information. I made the following changes:

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a few unsourced paragraphs, but also a sourced paragraph

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an accuracy problem, as the article can no longer be

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