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no I never said that. perhaps a handful of top ISI people were the only ones who sheltered bin Laden. Zardari probably does not even know where his own underwear is kept. I am 100% sure nobody in the neighborhood knew. the other conspiracy theory that is notable is that
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Looks like you still didn't comprehend what
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well the AfD failed miserably. I was just trying to point out the obvious that this is not a conspiracy theory. Mar4d worry about your own reputation. why the heck would anybody call this a conspiracy theory ???? no need to shell out unsolicited advice when it is clear that you haven't a clue
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