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3171:, it says Alphabet Inc. This means that the company has already been legally incorporated enough to hold copyright. While the merger hasn't taken place yet as far as we know, the company still exists. We ought to continue speaking in the future tense about the company as far as how to it will end up, but it suspect that its current status is as a dummy subsidiary of Google until the merger takes place. I think it would be inappropriate to talk about the company in its present status in the article as it's just that way as a legal expedient; instead, we should talk about how it is going to function in the long run, that being as the parent-umbrella company like we do now. -- 4079: 3929: 1899: 1878: 1586: 1565: 300: 351: 1988: 1967: 333: 3912:). Larry Page is the CEO of Alphabet inc, while Sergey Brin is president. The article states this much in the first paragraph, but under the "key people" headline it lists that Sundar Pichai, the CEO of Alphabet's subsidiary, Google is the CEO of the company. I recommend that Sundar Pichai (CEO) be replaced with Larry Page (CEO), the true CEO of the company, as well as adding Sergey Brin (President) to the "key people" list as president of the company. 488: 1812: 1794: 1596: 1533: 190: 3005:

not for Alphabet lead section. Furthermore, a lead is a concise summary of the article that does not have to include intricate details important for a specialised audience. The lead is a general overview of the subject. Intricate details go into the body, not the lead. For this reason I'm restating back the tags, as this discussion was started yesterday and one day and only 3 people is not enough to conclude there is consensus. —

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I believe you mean Drummond just for Alphabet (like it is in the source)? Anyway, although I don't doubt Bloomberg's reliability, these 'overview'-esque pages are not usually satisfactory. Nontheless, I'll edit out both pages to reflect what is said, yet I hope be find better sources for the cases at

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The company doesn't even exist yet. It won't be a subsidiary until it's formed, when it will more or less immediately become a conglomerate. It's a legal work around that doesn't reflect the actual state or purpose of the company, nor how it will be for more than a tiny amount of time as is needed to

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The section is still a stub. "In popular culture" isn't quite right either, because Alphabet isn't being referenced in pop culture, but rather Alphabet is referencing the series in the easter egg. "Easter egg" is actually a more focused name, and is better than either "trivia" (meaning misc. info) or

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Google is an operating subsidiary of Alphabet incorporated as Google LLC under the laws of Delaware. By our definition, that is not a division. If you can provide sources that say Google is not incorporated, and as such a division, the info may be inserted, though as long as that is not the case, it

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Sorry but I'm reverting this back. This is not consensus. Keep the tags and allow the discussions to flow for several days. This is not relevant at all for the lead. It is entirely irrelevant for the Alphabet article to state in the lead who will lead Google. This relevant for the Google article but

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We're all getting ahead of ourselves. Alphabet is still a subsidiary of Google (rather than Google a subsidiary of Alphabet). The restructuring was just announced hours ago hasn't happened yet. This article is describing future events is past or present terms. Just because there was an announcement,

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we have to use commonly recognizable names. Google's Fiber network is still prominent as "Google Fiber", not "Fiber (Alphabet Inc.)". Even most reliable sources still call it "Google Fiber" at the moment. This could change after the restructuring is complete. Until then I think we should keep using

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QUOTE: "One can only assume that before Larry Page and Sergey Brin chose Alphabet as the name for their new holding company, they Googled it. ... Alphabet is the name that Mr. Page and Mr. Brin, Google’s founders, have given the newly created parent entity that will house the Google search business

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What about "Following the restructuring, Google stock will be converted into Alphabet stock, and continue trading under the same ticker symbols."? The information is already available within the article, so IMO that's a decent middle ground for the lead. I'm OK with taking Sundar Pichai out of the

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Actually the section was titled "Easter eggs" earlier before I retitled it "Trivia". I am renaming it for now as "In Popular Culture" instead. I thought Easter eggs was an even more odd term to keep on the page! Naming of section can be amended, but calling it Easter eggs was unacceptable. Once we

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TV series may be arguable as a relevant section for Alphabet. Some editors may opt to keep it adding some more relevant focus or link to Alphabet. Some others may prefer to delete it altogether. Your opinions are very much appreciated as this is becoming a very much frequently visited page (around

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Alphabet, the holding company responsible for Google and Nest Labs, has been testing the balloons for over a year. In that time, it has improved accuracy, time spent in the air, and Internet range. The company now believes it is in a position to offer the balloons as an alternative to traditional

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Someone has challenged the relevance of the last two sentences in the top section. IMO, these sentences are absolutely relevant. The CEO of Alphabet and future CEO of Google is absolutely relevant, as well as the stock tickers, which is probably the first piece of info web searchers would want to

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While it is true that Larry Page receives 1$ a year as his paycheck, it‘s quite disingenuous to use that for a 'pay ratio'... De facto he still makes much more than the median worker... I propose removing the entire section as it serves no real purpose other than to mislead and confuse readers.

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The primary functional or operational business divisions of a company, listed alphabetically. These divisions align with the internal organizational structure of the company and may or may not align with the company's legally incorporated subsidiaries. If there is more than one entry, use ubl to

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Why create a new article, according to Larry Page, Google Inc. is replaced by Alphabet Inc., all shares for GOOG will be changed to Alphabet, etc. Google Inc. ceases to exist, it's practically just a rebrand. "Alphabet Inc. will replace Google Inc. as the publicly-traded entity and all shares of

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Presently our page Abc.xyz forwards to the page Alphabet Inc. But is there a way to also redirect a page to be named abc.xyz (with a non-capitalized A) to the same Alphabet Inc. page, as the URL is written as abc.xyz and not as Abc.xyz ... And as a curiosity how would people in general know the

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So, at very beginning, A is G's subsidiary. Then a dummy subsidiary of A (a grandchildren company of G then) created: let's call it D. Then G merged with its grandchildren company D, so it became A's subsidiary. But how could "The post-merger subsidiary, no longer a dummy, changed its name to

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article says the following: "David Carl Drummond is Google's Senior Vice President of Corporate Development and Chief Legal Officer. He is the Senior Vice President, Corporate Development, Chief Legal Officer and Secretary of Alphabet Inc."; though I doubt that he is both, an exec of Google

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Alphabet Inc. is an American multinational conglomerate headquartered in Mountain View, California. It was created through a restructuring of Google on October 2, 2015, and became the parent company of Google and several former Google subsidiaries. The two co-founders of Google remained as

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The status perhaps, but not company type. This is a proposed conglomerate holding company. This article is essentially about a proposed but yet unrealised company structure. We should reflect the type of proposed company. I'll add a status tag of proposed company or something along those

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is right there. In salary, Page makes $ 1 a year, while the median Alphabet employee makes close to $ 200k. Obviously Page still has large shareholdings in Alphabet, and otherwise a large fortune, but the Bloomberg article specifically talks about employee-CEO salary disparity.

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This source really just explains what I stated above. Page (and apparently also Brin) only get a symbolic $ 1 salary, with their wealth rising only with Alphabet's value. This is different from (e.g.) Disney, where Bob Iger also owns a large chunk of shares and

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Google will automatically convert into the same number of shares of Alphabet, with all of the same rights. Google will become a wholly-owned subsidiary of Alphabet. Our two classes of shares will continue to trade on Nasdaq as GOOGL and GOOG.", as written on

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doesn't mean it has happened. The stock swap GOOGL/GOOG stock swap hasn't even happened yet. Although, as we speak, Google is probably transferring assets into Alphabet to prepare for the stock swap, which should be considered current events.

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section has the definition of "merger all wrong. A merger is when two or more companies disband and fold their operations into one new company. This is a different kind of corporate restructuring that doesn't meet the definition of "merger."

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QUOTE: "Project Loon's next test location might be India, according to Alphabet and the Indian government. It follows an announcement last week that three major carriers in Indonesia would test Alphabet's Internet balloon program next year.

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I would like to see the pay ratio, and possibly associated data like median pay and CEO pay added to the infobox. I have mentioned this article where I requested a "pay ratio" parameter be added to the infobox for that purpose:

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QUOTE: "(Reuters) - In a rare public appearance, Google co-founder and Alphabet Inc CEO Larry Page explained why he was spurred to create a whole new structure for the company he created with Sergey Brin almost two decades ago.

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Business segment (Business Division) or simply Division is used to categories each business or services a company is in and they operate as corporate units in the case of Disney or subsidiaries in case of Time Warner.

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He said the new company would operate a little bit like a venture capital firm, a little bit like Berkshire Hathaway Inc, the conglomerate controlled by billionaire investor Warren Buffett, whom Page admires." --

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format the entries. If there are more than five divisions and the article body lists them or discusses them, consider linking to that part of the article rather than listing them in the infobox.

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10:08, 13 August 2015 (UTC) Also, there is no suggestion in those link that Google Fiber or Google X were changing since they never stated that. I think they may have been using shorthand.

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Source for this? He might make money through share payouts, but he has virtually no salary. This is in contrast to other companies where the CEO is given a sizable slaray in the millions

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controlling shareholders, board members, and employees at Alphabet. Alphabet is the world's fourth-largest technology company by revenue and one of the world's most valuable companies.

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controlling shareholders, board members, and employees at Alphabet. Alphabet is the world's third-largest technology company by revenue and one of the world's most valuable companies.

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adding that Alphabet is a subsidiary of Google). Could anybody fact-check these? If they turn out to be untrue, they should be reverted and both key people moved to Google's infobox.

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Founded August 10th 2015, the company's Knowledge (XXG) page is very bare as this goes to press - no more than 30 words all in all. That will change - dramatically - as time passes.

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Should it be noted that the Alphabet restructing hasnt fully finished yet, and is not yet publicly traded? But the header should still have the Traded as portion. Am I mistaken?

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Alright, I'm not sure if someone just reversed the numbers or what, but there is no way that the median employee at Alphabet inc earns ~140,000x as much per year as Larry Page.

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I question the relevance of the section as a whole, as the sole purpose of it seemed to be highlighting the CEO-to-worker compensation ratio, which paints a misleading picture.

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Removed the section as no additional changes have been made to change what can only be described as a misleading picture that seems to add an advertising twist to the page.

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Reliable sources report that Sundar Pichai has been named the CEO of Alphabet and that Page and Brin have stepped down from the CEO and President positions, respectively.

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How does one link the revenue in the info box to internally link it to the wiki "Revenue" article? Besides "Number of Employees," it is the only title unlinked.

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know. Many casual skim readers will be looking for info on corporate leadership and Google/Alphabet stock, which is why this info needs to be above the fold.

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in a rather bare-bones manor and completely unsourced. Further indications against this claim could be his disambiguator literally being "Google", and the

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It appears that some of the companies previously called "Google something" are going to drop the Google from their name. Examples: Google Fiber -: -->

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However, Google is the largest part of Alphabet and a general user will want to know who will be leading one of the largest companies in the world.

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This is all a bit premature. If you actually read the SEC filing, technically Alphabet Inc. is a subsidiary of Google Inc. until the merger.

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Future plans do not represent present facts. Knowledge (XXG) isn't a crystal ball, we change articles after real life changes are realized.

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Some sources only mentioned his role as SVP, whereas some only mentioned his role as CLO, but thankfully the first source mentions both.

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bags $ 66 million annually. I'm not opposed to displaying this contrast in the article but the content should not outright be removed.

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Wait, still don't like the fact we still mention the ticker symbols in the lead. That's unnecessary in the lead but fine in the body. —

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The volume of edits by IPs is low on this article. There's been, like, one or two vandal edits in total over the life of this article.

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Yeah, I didn't mean to ping you straightforwardly. I removed it afterwards. My bad. Just wanted to participate in the discussion. --

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http://www.foxnews.com/tech/2015/11/04/india-might-be-next-to-adopt-project-loon-alphabet-ambitious-internet-plan.html?intcmp=hphz03

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I was basically saying lets wait until the restructuring is complete, but I was giving my personal preference on what could happen.

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But, that is the primary identifier of many companies. So, I think that until we add it to the infobox it should stay in the lede.

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I'm fine with adding it to the infobox. However, it's not crucial to be mentioned in the opening sentence of the article. --

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I definitely agree with that because while we don't state the future as fact we should state the proposed future as a plan.

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and several smaller holdings like Nest, a maker of smart thermostats, and Calico, a company focused on longevity. ... " --

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I am going to try and rephrase this in a more appropriate way. If you disagree please readd the tags if you disagree.

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YouTube is mentioned in the article. YouTube, like many other Internet services, is still under the Google umbrella.

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require that editors disclose their "employer, client, and affiliation" with respect to any paid contribution; see

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Because Google Inc. is still a company which is just a subsidiary of Alphabet and is still a historical company.

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https://www.investopedia.com/ask/answers/032315/why-did-larry-page-pay-himself-salary-only-1-year-google.asp

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mainspace pages must begin with an upper-case letter (unless the first character is not a letter). Example:

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Yes, I think it's relevant at the moment. However, it'll become trivial as the situation progresses. --

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