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cable and not mounted on the metal frame with screws, then it is an add-on by a hardware hacker. Even if the bottom says it is a PW10001, the previous owner probably placed a KMP2000 motherboard into it. Also, the KMP2000 shipped with the 100-240V power supply. That would only mean that the unit was sold outside of the U.S. where 240v is the norm. And the @world was never intended to be sold outside of the U.S. Your motherboard has 8MB, which only the KMP2000 had. Last, look at the KINKA version of the ROM-BIOS in your unit. Use the chip IDs in the KINKA table. If it is KINKA 1.3, then congrats - you have a KMP2000 motherboard with a @world case. The @world never shipped with 1.3. Again, no primary sources are allowed here.
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Sorry for the late reply, but this SCSI port is definitely a post-manufacturing dev hack because you can see the ribbon cable through the seam of the case. Many developers hacked setups like this. Also, that 8MB module is an optional aftermarket item, so 6MB internal + 8MB module = 14MB of RAM (minus
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One more I wanted to point out is the model number PW10001. Bandai has this part number in its catalog as a 6MB system. If Bandai indeed upgraded its @world to 8MB, it would have also changed the part number to something like PW10002 or similar. Anytime a manufacturer makes a change to a product, the
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I own a Pippin @World (black) model PW10001 manufactured on Sep 1996. The unusual things of the model I own are that it has 8Mb of RAM (not 6) as the KMP2000 version, power supply is 100-240V and there is a 50-pin SCSI port on the back. I think I have a predecessor of KMP2000 but still marked @World.
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I own a normal Atmark Pippin from Japan and it has a auto-switchable 100-240V power supply (printed above the power socket on all pictures of the "back" of the pippin i found in the net. Mine has the same informations. It is known that all versions of the Pippin are technical the same, only name and
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There is a remote possibility that Bandai threw parts from here and there together to make up a developer system. Why did it ship with the developer dongle even though the developer ROM (it was KINKA 1.3 at this point) didn't even need it? And, why did it still come with the ribbon SCSI and not the
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Thinking it over even further, you indeed have an unofficial hybrid. On a real KMP2000, the back of the metal frame inside has the cut-out for the 50-pin centronics connector. Neither the @world nor the ATMARK had this cut-out. If the 50-pin connector on yours is hanging out of the unit on a ribbon
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Took me a lot longer than I expected to get back to this, but there are still no objections, so I've gone ahead and made the changes. In the process I noticed that the Bonaire Insider article already cited here also establishes that the Pippin wasn't released until 1996. I still haven't found a
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Most of the early work I did, but then other issues prevented me from continuing, plus you wrote it to Wiki standards. Well done!! I have a HUGE collection of Pippin material including paper advertising and catalogs. I have almost every title made. And I have 1 of each version of the Pippin
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I second everything Pippinitis said; I came to these pages looking for info about Bandai's Atmark specifically. I wasn't really aware the Pippin was even a platform, and these articles do nothing to make that more clear in their current states.
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Katz Media base mounting? This is why the developer models are not listed in the table on this page - they're not consistent. Which is why only the for-retail models are listed. This policy is consistent with other Apple articles on Knowledge.
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Are you the original owner of that unit? Could be an after-factory add-on by someone else. Or, it could be a hybrid KMP2000 body with a @world cover. Regardless, although you have the unit in front of you, you can't be a primary source. Check
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The article currently states that the Pippin was released March 28, 1995 in Japan and September 1, 1995 in the USA. However, neither of the release dates are at all sourced so far as I can see, and the October 1995 issue of
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Hi, I'm the actual owner of this Pippin. I'm pretty sure that it was not hacked in any way. My company bought it in 96/97 for developing software. If you're curious about it, I've uploaded some photos to a flickr album:
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has an interview with the general manager of the Power Player project in which he unambiguously states that the console hardware is still in development. Has anybody got any good sources on when the Pippin was
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for more on this. All the information in this article is from secondary sources. Is there any documentation - printed or on-line, that shows an @world shipped from the factory with a SCSI external interface?
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One is a technology platform by Apple Computer, and the other is a console marketed by Bandai that is based on that platform. That said, both are mistitled: "
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I made the correction. The actual name of the graphical interface is "TAOS", as detected by TattleTech when you run this application on a Pippin.
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footprint of system software). Because a dongle was included, the ROM was most likely not C7 (not listed in the Knowledge article, but
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colors are changed. Could you correct this information? I tested mine on the German 230V power net, everything works fine.
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So the hardware table in the article is not correct, I think it should be modified in order to include the model I have.
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The Pippin Atmark consoles began shipping on March 22, 1996, and first went on sale through 300 Japanese retailers on
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I am requesting to have this article be rated as B-class. If there's any problems that need fixing, let me know.
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I agree with the reason for this proposal, there is no need to have two articles talking about the same thing.--
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page, and there's no reason to have two separate articles - one of the platform and the other for the console.
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source for the exact confirmed release date, though, so if anyone should have one please put it in.--
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Not against a move per se, but I believe it should be the other way around.
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http://www.macgeek.org/museum/pippin/downloads/pippinguidelines.pdf
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The current logo shape and color were a result of this document.
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The graphical engine/chipset in the Pippin was named 'tacos'?
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and likely arrived at participating retailers by early 1997. —
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And now I've found an article in the December 1995 issue of
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for additional information. I made the following changes:
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for additional information. I made the following changes:
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Should be: Internal universal switching power supply,
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