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What discussion? The discussion was whether the page should be deleted because its basically an advertisement for this attorney. I do not think
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Minor libel cases that you have created an article for, and there is a see also link, so that is alright for the time being, I don't see that there is an issue, the content is disputed in this bio for is weight its notability and as such is better in its own article. Look , lets wait for more input.
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and clearly would easily be assumed to have a conflict of interest against this person. I am tempted to do a checkuser on you and BOO the puppy to check if the article creation and previous disruption originated from the same source. Reading the article and understanding Mr Wolks ability and desire
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This article is unencyclopedic. It reads like an autobiography. I recommend either deletion or extensive rewriting. At the moment all facts portray the subject in a very positive light, as if the presentation were designed for public relations. Of course we do not know who has been editing the
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The article was well discussed last year and pretty well balanced already thanks. Your additions all of them negative and critical of the living subject, were from people that have been involved in legal disputes with the subject and primary court docs and blogs - all to be avoided - feel free to
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There is an ongoing, newsworthy disputes that need to be addressed on the page. There appears to be an effort to sanitize the entry. Lets have a discusson on how to fairly to acknowledge the issue and link to the sources. This page has been used as attorney advertising and needs to be more
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I am not trying to hide who I am. I represent Mr. Wolk and each time I visit this page I see that your editor's add more and more references to the lawsuit yet not one regarding the outcome. I added it, now you reversed it again.
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You are bloating a minor issue in an undue way, I will look to delete the legal case article, also please allow uninvolved editors to improve the article as your involvement in the issue is like a flashing beacon. Thanks.
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