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404: 733: 545: 900:, who was born in England and would have been located at 'English footballer' until he was 21, when he played 1 game for Trinidad & Tobago. He would then have been 'Trinidadian footballer' until he was 26, when he changed allegiance to Guyana...so, in short, disambiguating by nationality is complex and full of holes, so we should (and, in practice, do) disambiguate by year of birth primarily. So, in this case, either leave the articles as they are 352: 119: 95: 457: 436: 380: 340: 181: 467: 64: 264: 229: 274: 193: 129: 895:
lists a number of possible alternatives used to disambiguate footballers; the standard in practice is always year of birth, because sporting nationality is fluid. The 'Welsh' player, for example, was born in England, and qualifies for Wales through heritage. Nationality in football is so fluid, there
820:, not sure if I feel comfortable disambiguating the Welsh international as (Welsh footballer) since he was born and raised in England, has a Jamaican father, and is only a quarter Welsh. I'd rather disambiguate by birth year as standard so 998:). This could make it slightly harder for readers to find the exact footballer they are looking for. Also, I'm unaware of any RFC or guideline that says that we primarily disambiguate athletes by year of birth. 1142: 949:
I know. I was simply using him as an example to show the fluidity of nationalities. Where would his article be located if there were other Ricky Shakes on Knowledge and he had to be disambiguated?
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Seeing that there are other people called "Ashley Williams", e.g. the actress for Victoria in "How I met your mother", should this not start with a link to a disambiguation page?
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as a rationale for their !vote, but I disagree with it because most people researching these footballers won't know the exact year that they were born (
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are SO many examples of players born in one country who represented another because it's where their mum or grandad came from. See also
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The bit about his attempted murder of Robin van Persie is untidy lookin..somebody should fix it..has no sources either..here's a few.
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
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states that year of birth should only be used when disambiguation can't be resolved through more specific qualifiers.
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point 2a. The player born in 2000 has only ever played in or for Liberia; there's no evidence of national fluidity.
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for its title. The hatnote works well for the 3% looking for the Liberian footballer, who is probably somewhat more
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I never thought to look at the number of pageviews. You've changed my !vote partially.
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The discussion has been closed, and the result will be found in the closer's comment.
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by nationality than year of birth, nationality being slightly favored at
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