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is what. If the sources call these people settlers so too should the article. That B'tselem says they were also civilians should also be included. But that isnt the primary label used by the sources and as such it should not be the primary label used in the article. That label should be "Israeli
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That when we say who was killed it should say "four Israeli settlers were killed".
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